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Site => News => Topic started by: overunity33 on December 11, 2015, 08:23:59 AM

Title: wetdreams.ws
Post by: overunity33 on December 11, 2015, 08:23:59 AM
Where did the site go? Is it down or just moved? Anyone have the new url?
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: Vesp on December 11, 2015, 09:09:25 AM
It's now the collective  but they shut down registration as far as I know
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: Moolybdenum on December 11, 2015, 10:54:57 PM
no it's still around, search for wetdreams revolutions..

Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: Necrogram on December 11, 2015, 10:58:39 PM
wdrestored.com

Boom!

It is the-collective.ws
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: Moolybdenum on December 11, 2015, 11:10:07 PM
woah, i thought the collective was still seperate....?
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: Necrogram on December 11, 2015, 11:50:11 PM
Using duck duck go (search engine).

When searching: the collective wet dreams

The result comes up as: the collective/wet dreams
With the url as: the-collective.ws
😉
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: twoswords on December 12, 2015, 04:01:27 AM
wetdreams revolutions is at
wdrestored.com

The pirated wetdreams is
the-collective.ws
Registration is closed at the-collective
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: The Lone Stranger on December 12, 2015, 07:07:23 PM
http://www.the-collective.ws/



We're back!!!

Come join us at the new site by selecting the link below!

Enter now and join the-collective!




Please login below or register an account with The Collective.


Bad Behavior has blocked 40 access attempts in the last 7 days.
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: anfinsen on December 30, 2015, 08:34:22 PM
Any way I could register? I might be able to share some knowlege.
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: java on December 31, 2015, 05:11:39 PM
http://the-collective.ws/forum/index.php

http://www.wdrestored.com/forums/index.php


.......there are now two from the original WD, which after some disagreements the two forums were created, neither one is a pirated forum, lets make that clear, single administrators are never a good thing for any forum .....the administrator has his own biases and the forum reflects it, that's why a group of administrators are important to to have the co-op reflected in the philosophy of the forum, besides it's too much work for one person, but it now seems both parties have buried the hatchet and perhaps something good will happen with the new year.....java
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: Milkman213 on December 31, 2015, 07:23:11 PM
Any way I could register? I might be able to share some knowlege.

I've been trying everyday for a month or two with no luck.
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: Hanswurst on June 23, 2017, 01:24:03 PM
So whats the status here?
I would love to have more input in the form of other sites to become an expert about PEAs.
As some of you might have noticed, I'm in the process of proving myself worthy and will finish recent projects in the upcoming months when I finally have the time.

Who can throw me a bone, help me gain access, vouch for that trust is well invested in my person?
What are the places the scene gathers at, or has the end if the Hive made this largely impossible?

Feel free to PM, if you consider the information sensitive.
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: embezzler on June 30, 2017, 08:01:01 PM
There is no secret, registration is open at the-collective.ws though the archive is not yet available due to technical issues.
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: atara on July 01, 2017, 11:59:06 PM
It's slow as dogshit though. Is it hidden through TOR now or something?
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: embezzler on July 02, 2017, 06:11:55 AM
I guess it is the same issue that prevents the archive being made available. I don't believe it is hosted on tor.
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: Corrosive Joeseph on July 02, 2017, 06:15:47 AM
Is it hidden through TOR now or something?

Oh.......... I never even thought of that but I don't think so. Unfortunately, things are very dead there............
I signed up at the same time I registered here, but the vespiary is FAR more active

Request for ANY site mirrors/back-ups/saved web pages of  the collective, thezonez, wetdreams, wetdreams/collective off-shoots etc., etc.............?

Please and thanks............... I feel like I have missed out somehow and I'm sure there is some fantastic reading to be had.


/CJ

[EDIT] - Oh, embezzler posted while I was writing this............ 'The same issue'...........? 'Technical reasons'............?
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: Hanswurst on July 03, 2017, 03:48:08 PM
Can't access with two different devices,  it always says I need to activate the account to log in and when I try to, it says I need to log in to visit this page.

But if its dead im not interested anyway. Just cant wrap my head around the thought that this is all there is supposed to be, regarding online community. Are people really keeping everything they try and make progress in, to themselves?
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: spice on July 04, 2017, 11:40:07 PM
Yes pretty much. At this point all they have to do is wait for real info to surface and then it's pretty simple, analytically, to pinch it. They've done it time and again, and that's a horse that has been beat over and over.
I can't believe that after twenty years of internet drug forums that there really is much left hidden. When you couple that with a hundred years of O-chem publications and references it would seem most of the initial mission of places such as hive etc has been fulfilled.

I believe the golden age is over.
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: mrhappy on July 05, 2017, 01:13:39 AM
Can't access with two different devices,  it always says I need to activate the account to log in and when I try to, it says I need to log in to visit this page.

But if its dead im not interested anyway. Just cant wrap my head around the thought that this is all there is supposed to be, regarding online community. Are people really keeping everything they try and make progress in, to themselves?

This kind of research is very obscure and we are the only ones in the world looking at drug analogs and how to build up precursors from things as close to OTC  as possible.. It's not rocket science, but what is harder?, launching something into low earth orbit or building your own nuclear reactor ala' Enrico Fermi in your own basement?. Most of the people I associate with slowly come to realize that consumerism does not truly satisfy, we are meant to use nature around us to better our own lives and help our friends and family.

Drugs, food, medicine, anything you have that runs out or ends up being thrown away is something you got by paying money for it. Very few people grow and eat their own food, even fewer (almost none) make their own medicines, grow herbal teas, make their own alcohol instead of going to a bar or liquor store. Chemistry is very anti globalism and when we get anywhere near the good chemicals for legitimate research they BAN IT ALL. I suppose this has had the result of forcing us down this path of super secrecy and looking at things nobody has ever thought of before simply because we want to be left alone to follow our dreams, some of us since childhood.

People that only care about drugs/explosives/poisons for whatever reason are an even smaller minority than anyone on a forum like this interested in serious research. The unknown is an easy scapegoat to create fear and panic.

I feel like we are "chosen". I can't even explain how I really found this place, im sure I would have eventually, I've seen the link on reddit before but I made an account here after reading a post on the 420chan chemistry board. I have been blessed to have spoken with such legends like Tramp, RIP who helped me make the connection from crank cooking to serious real chemistry, God bless his soul. I hope one day I can be as useful as that man.

Chemistry is now a passion for me, far beyond drugs I look at every chemical and piece of literature I can find.. when you first start its like "mercury salts? wtf is this I just want to get rich and make drugs" now I use my knowledge in the professional world to make real money because I know a lot about things like shipping expensive, regulated goods and all the proper laws associated with it all.
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: Corrosive Joeseph on July 05, 2017, 06:23:17 PM
Just cant wrap my head around the thought that this is all there is supposed to be, regarding online community.

Are people really keeping everything they try and make progress in, to themselves?

Yup, this is it. Shocking, isn't it...........? Out of 200 million drug users on the planet, we have about 30 or 40 active posters.

I don't think anyone tries to make progress in anything outside of this board.

We are a SMALL community of researchers and what is happening here takes work, dedication and persistence.
Qualities that most people lack in this age of instant gratification and social media distraction.

If somebody wants to make a shit-ton of something, there are already many proven ways and they can source all they want from the Far East.

Organized crime has taken over and the masses are just too lazy, afraid or stupid to do anything about it.

I do wonder where everyone is though. We had our 5,000th member the other day.
There was over 5,000 members at the Hive.

That's 10,000 FUCKING BEES.........!!! WTF.......!!! Where did they all go...........??

And that's not including the many, many home chemists over at SM and other forums over the years.

And I'm sure there are a few more who don't frequent the internet or have had their methods passed on to them by someone else and never had to change the route they use.

Yup............. I can't get my head around it either


/CJ







Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: atara on July 10, 2017, 10:47:49 PM
Quote
Yup, this is it. Shocking, isn't it...........? Out of 200 million drug users on the planet, we have about 30 or 40 active posters.

There are other such fora. However, most of them are well-hidden. The last time I heard from no1uno, he said he was moving all of his activity to the cryptonet. Just think of how you ever ended up here anyway. And the vespiary is not exactly advertised, although I think we are on /r/drugnerds (which certainly wasn't my idea but I've accepted it)

I'm here because of totse. Other people came from somewhere else. For example, posters at psychonaut tried to monopolize discussion of helional for a while. SomethingAwful used to have chemistry in The Crackhead Clubhouse when the mods weren't looking. Maybe they still do.

I think if you want to find other chemistry forums, you should start in the messageboards that grow up around Silk Road's successor markets.
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: Vesp on July 11, 2017, 05:23:17 AM
Are there many darknet clandestine forums? I've seen a few but they've been fleeting and not particularly active.
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: thinkgeek on July 16, 2017, 01:03:26 AM
ive been working on one as we speak.. if anyone knows how to get a forum onto the TOR domain i would like some assistance in that area.
ive got most of it setup and will work the bugs out as we go.. anyone interested in participating helping or participating is welcomed.
i do9nt want to take anything away from here by anymeans. but maybe it will draw some bees out that are afraid to post on clearnet forums.   i could see why someone with an endeavering charge would not want to post here .. who knows . send me a message if you have any info.  i had talked to a member or 2 here that was interested in this and would have covered the hosting costs.  i know next to nothing about tor network as far as implementing a site goes.
i hope all are well .
namaste
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: RegularOldGuy on July 16, 2017, 01:22:40 AM
Shouldn't be anything special for a Tor domain, its more most of the time you just configure the virtual host and it will accept any hostname and won't verify anything. Theres probably some additional steps to ensure IP doesn't leak, possibly using something like ModSecurity and having it sanitize anything being served.
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: thinkgeek on July 16, 2017, 03:15:30 AM
you have already talked over my head.. while i kind of understand what your saying and what it does.. i would have no idea where to start.  if you think you are interested feel free to pm me about it. even if you werent the one to configure maybe you could ask the right querstions to the right person?  at one time i found a guy claiming to host it and would help me with the setting it up for around 40 usd a month.

dunno how trustworthy a person off the dn is but 40 usd is crazy cheap.

Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: thinkgeek on July 16, 2017, 03:23:01 AM
Quote
Yup, this is it. Shocking, isn't it...........? Out of 200 million drug users on the planet, we have about 30 or 40 active posters.

There are other such fora. However, most of them are well-hidden. The last time I heard from no1uno, he said he was moving all of his activity to the cryptonet. Just think of how you ever ended up here anyway. And the vespiary is not exactly advertised, although I think we are on /r/drugnerds (which certainly wasn't my idea but I've accepted it)

I'm here because of totse. Other people came from somewhere else. For example, posters at psychonaut tried to monopolize discussion of helional for a while. SomethingAwful used to have chemistry in The Crackhead Clubhouse when the mods weren't looking. Maybe they still do.

I think if you want to find other chemistry forums, you should start in the messageboards that grow up around Silk Road's successor markets.

ive been on the dnms and other forums that arent market connected, and there is nothing that i have stumbled upon..
there is a market-forum called the majestic garden which has some nuggets about mdma and  lsd but they limit their discussion to rave type drugs and do not condone the use of meth, ketamine, 4mmc, for wahtever reason..

Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: The Lone Stranger on August 16, 2017, 07:02:44 PM
>We had our 5,000th member the other day. There was over 5,000 members at the Hive. That's 10,000 FUCKING BEES.........!!! WTF.......!!! Where did they all go...........??

1 - 5000  two times is still 5000
2 . Thats accounts not members . It is / was common for people to have several accounts
3 - Thats over how many years ?
4 - That was in the days before anyone could buy anything through the internet cheeply . Who needs underground chemists now ?
5 - Because of that theres no money in it anymore .
6 - Drug deaths / deaths
7 - Some have scrambled their brains with drugs
8 - Maybe some were kidnaped by aliens ?

>And I'm sure there are a few more who don't frequent the internet

Maybe thats why they arent here ?


Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: magnu3 on February 11, 2018, 04:48:52 AM
So the collective is gone now or have they moved ?
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: jacolives on February 11, 2018, 05:21:05 AM
To use? Wow that's amusing i was a moderator on To use over 10 years ago. More like 15 years ago...
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: Vesp on February 11, 2018, 06:26:35 AM
To use? Whats that?
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: embezzler on February 11, 2018, 01:40:04 PM
Totse temple of the spinning electron

Old site for making meth but it was mostly nonsense
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: mrhappy on February 11, 2018, 06:34:08 PM
There are still forums with the same people as totse , zoklet out there, easy to find on Google.
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: Impossible on February 11, 2018, 08:35:20 PM
thecollective, wetdreams, wdreloaded, thezonez, psychonaught(their chem subforum) all no longer operating.  :(

Only forums aside from here I keep tabs on is blacklight.

Whats that restricted synthesis board on drug-forums like?  Is it worth the effort going through the application process?
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: Baba_McKensey on February 16, 2018, 10:48:12 PM
I miss seeing all the (offensive crap deleted)on the hive.
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: java on May 27, 2018, 06:52:26 PM
.....i just herd of WARE passing away!!! does anybody know the circumstances ....its sad news also our last hope of having the old zonez data base as well as the WD evolution .....java
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: dopamine on May 28, 2018, 03:28:08 AM
Omg thats terrible  ??? this is the first im hearing of it.    unbelievable :(
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: Tamerlane on June 24, 2018, 07:14:00 PM
thecollective, wetdreams, wdreloaded, thezonez, psychonaught(their chem subforum) all no longer operating.  :(

Only forums aside from here I keep tabs on is blacklight.

Whats that restricted synthesis board on drug-forums like?  Is it worth the effort going through the application process?

Where is Blacklight? Ppl have mentioned it and it sounds intredasting.
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: carl on June 24, 2018, 09:49:16 PM
It was blacklight.me, but it seems to be gone.
Google search won't do anything for it, since it is not google indexed, it has no robots.txt(unlike our board).
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: RegularOldGuy on June 25, 2018, 01:52:05 PM
It was blacklight.me, but it seems to be gone.
Google search won't do anything for it, since it is not google indexed, it has no robots.txt(unlike our board).

Its actually the robots.txt which prevents them from indexing it, without one it will navigate the site and traverse the various links to find stuff. The robots.txt is checked prior to this and can give a roadmap of what urls it should check and which it should avoid. This file is honored by every major search engine.
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: Baba_McKensey on June 25, 2018, 11:36:59 PM
blue light!
https://www.pressherald.com/2018/06/24/retailers-experiment-with-blue-lights-to-deter-drug-use/
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: Tsathoggua on June 26, 2018, 07:40:29 AM
Obviously ignorant of the fact that one FEELS for a vein (especially Tsath's, he really feels for them after some of what they have been through...not the best in the world, unfortunately.) rather than just looks, or looks to get a general idea of optimal areas and then locates it by feel. Shit, when Tsath' was using a lot (a big lot, at the time, very big), of MXE, 3-OH-PCP, 3-MeO-PCP, 4-MeO-PCP, methoxphenidine and diphenidine, he could and did do it in the dark, whilst just emerging from a hole.

Blue lights wouldn't make a shitting bit of difference . And as they pointed out in that article, your average desperate junkie using H, etc., they are going to say 'bollocks to it' and shoot up anyway, or IM the gear. And it isn't going to make any impact at all on those who smoke their skag. Doesn't take special lighting, or anything more than the light provided by the lighter  to smoke a pipe of H, its dark right now, and Tsath' has no problem heating his, even with the pipe itself completely dark with melted H right the way along.

Maybe a better idea would be approaches like in, IIRC, canada where they can buy limited amounts from vending machines AFAIK, as well as get clean supplies for use. There really, really needs to be more such endeavours, cut out the scumbag element, and also kill off the stigma, Tsath' doesn't DO stigma, but some will unfortunately end up bowing to it. And the pricks dishing it out need a slap, there is just way, way, way too much illogic, snot-nosed sneering NTs making it hard even for pain patients. Really, what is worse, allowing ten junkies to slip through the doctors' watch, or for one suffering, miserable, quite possibly crippled or nearly so, severely pained and badly injured pain patient to be made to go without, and almost as bad, actually ACCUSED of something as if doing wrong? IMO one untreated or undertreated patient in need is worth any number of drug seekers getting some. Its far worse to undertreat than it is to overtreat in this area of medicine, not unacceptable, completely and utterly unacceptable for anyone, even a single suffering patient to be forced to miss out on adequate treatment. The political coagulation of filth responsible for the pressure on doctors need shooting.

But why should they worry? should those at the top worry about the fact they are shitting on doctors and patients, while the doctors shit on them too, and the patients, at they get shit on from both.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: Impossible on June 28, 2018, 02:11:10 AM
It was blacklight.me, but it seems to be gone.
Google search won't do anything for it, since it is not google indexed, it has no robots.txt(unlike our board).

Yeah there was a thread started some time last year by an admin where they basically said "hey this place is pretty dead, we don't know if we wanna keep it running"
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: Baba_McKensey on June 29, 2018, 02:31:39 PM
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Obviously ignorant of the fact that one FEELS for a vein (especially Tsath's, he really feels for them after some of what they have been through...not the best in the world, unfortunately.) rather than just looks, or looks to get a general idea of optimal areas and then locates it by feel. Shit, when Tsath' was using a lot (a big lot, at the time, very big), of MXE, 3-OH-PCP, 3-MeO-PCP, 4-MeO-PCP, methoxphenidine and diphenidine, he could and did do it in the dark, whilst just emerging from a hole.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=sIxJA_1530023080

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=H7ZR_1530134779


Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: java on June 30, 2018, 03:33:45 PM
........good old sam, racing his engine again......java
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: Tsathoggua on June 30, 2018, 05:52:17 PM
Did blacklight release any archives? it will be a huge loss if they did not.
Title: Re: wetdreams.ws
Post by: Baba_McKensey on June 30, 2018, 08:30:41 PM
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........good old sam, racing his engine again......java

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