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News / Re: welcome home the legendary casey willams Hardison
« Last post by The Lone Stranger on November 04, 2018, 01:38:30 PM »
High Casey ...... I feel for you ...... and hope everything works out OK  for you .

At story ......  How many times do you people need telling ? You're chemists and the only idea of the criminal / dealer world you have is from miami vice .

Someone comes and says i have a new customer for you !!!! WTF !!! ...... Then why dont YOU sell him something ? ...... Why are you telling me ? = ALARM BELLS RING ....... = An emergency procedur starts ....... everything stops ...... everything gets cleared up ...... people get warned ...... at least untill the situation is cleared up . That pause can last for years .

Who the fuck is this new mysterious customer ? Where does he come from ? Where does his money come from ? Who does he normaly buy off ? Why isnt he buying off them ? Whats his backing ? Who knows him ? Who does he know ? ...... Do they realy know him ? :)

First the customer gets checked ...... and then his new ' friend ' . Right back to school days . Who knows them ? What have they done ? If theyve never got their fingers dirty , arent known and dont have a stable position / reputation in an area / scene ...... who the fuck are they ?

If theres any questions at all ...... or any urgency ....... nothing happens . The customer gets put on a short lead and is kept in the dark so he cant cause problems ....... then he never gets told anything again ...... except bullshit = When he talks he outs himself with the bullshit hes been told ...... he never gets anything good again ...... only shit ...... and the price goes up ...... and he doesnt notice = Hes edged out into a position where he cant do any damage .

At facefuck ? ...... Seriously ment question ---- > Whats the difference ? In security / danger between here and there ? :)
News / Re: welcome home the legendary casey willams Hardison
« Last post by spiritchaser on November 03, 2018, 01:39:19 PM »
Only imbeciles use facebook.
News / Re: welcome home the legendary casey willams Hardison
« Last post by hamsterbob on November 03, 2018, 01:31:31 PM »
probley shouldnt link your fb profile bro
News / Re: welcome home the legendary casey willams Hardison
« Last post by Vesp on November 03, 2018, 09:52:59 AM »
Not sure while the link didnt work. Here is most of the text. I personally have met him, and I have friends who are friends with him.
I've met him also, wonder how closely we're connected in a social network?
News / Re: welcome home the legendary casey willams Hardison
« Last post by dextromolecule on November 03, 2018, 08:55:00 AM »
News / Re: welcome home the legendary casey willams Hardison
« Last post by Didgy on November 03, 2018, 06:59:06 AM »
As far as I know hes still on the lamb (in hiding)
News / Re: welcome home the legendary casey willams Hardison
« Last post by Didgy on November 03, 2018, 06:57:49 AM »
Not sure while the link didnt work. Here is most of the text. I personally have met him, and I have friends who are friends with him. I didnt really like him. Very very arrogant, not someone I'd like to be very close to. He also called a reporter to state that the police version is exaggerated.


A confidential informant bought a pound of marijuana from Hardison in June 2017.

In March an undercover agent met with Hardison and bought 2 pounds of marijuana.

“Hardison opened a black case, which Hardison took from the trunk of his car ... and removed two large, sealed packages of marijuana,” a probable cause affidavit states.

On Monday night at 7:30 the same undercover agent met Hardison and two other people and arranged to buy 3 pounds of marijuana.

The group hung out at a brewery until just after 9 p.m. and moved to a nearby intersection where the undercover officer bought five bags of pot for $6,000.

Other agents of the Wyoming Division of Criminal Investigation and detectives of the Teton County Sheriff’s Office moved in and parked to block Hardison’s car, documents state.

Hardison grabbed his steering wheel and started to drive off as police approached.

“Special agents jumped from the path of Hardison’s vehicle to avoid being struck,” court records state.

Police chased Hardison through Jackson.

“As Hardison sped away a brief pursuit was conducted by law enforcement vehicles displaying emergency lights and sirens,” documents state. “Based on Hardison’s actions while driving, high speeds, numerous turns down streets and obvious disregard for the safety of the public, law enforcement ended any further attempts to stop Hardison’s vehicle.”

Hardison has several pending delivery charges in Teton County, police said. A warrant for his arrest was pending Tuesday evening.

Hardison is well known for his drug activity. The 47-year-old is a semi-famous LSD chemist who was sentenced to 20 years in prison for running a European LSD lab, according to a 2004 Vice article.

Hardison was also a witness in a coroner’s inquest into the death of a local artist. Hardison was partying with Anthony Birkholz on the night he died.

Hardison hosted a fundraiser in Jackson after Birkholz died. He also raised money online and promised to donate it to the Buffalo Field Campaign. But the memorial money ended up in police custody in Idaho after Hardison was arrested there last year for drug possession.

The charges were later dismissed and prosecutors there said the cash was returned to Hardison. But employees at the Buffalo Field Campaign said they’ve never received the promised donation. Hardison said in January that he planned to raise the money by hosting an online blotter art sale, but an organizer said the sale didn’t go as planned.

“I will keep raising money for the Buffalo Field Campaign as long as they exist and as long as I do,” Hardison told the News&Guide then.
News / The secret science of illegal chemistry
« Last post by aes256 on November 01, 2018, 03:21:17 PM »
An article over at Medium about the "secret science of illegal chemistry."

IMO it's fairly misinformed and mostly trashy but it's interesting seeing what the normies think about all of this.
News / Re:
« Last post by rumpled on October 27, 2018, 09:00:10 PM »
Carl, I agree that, in a very real way, The Hive contributed to the demise of underground drug chemistry as a hobby. It did so by serving its stated purpose though, something the main contributors can be proud of. Obviously, that doesn't make information exchange about our revered topic obsolete, but it took a bite out of the hobby, for sure. At the very least, it eliminated those who were involved because of lack of availability, by exponentially increasing it.

TheeHive looks like it has some people who are interested, although chem-savvy participants are the exception rather than the rule. Still, it is hope that not all Apoidea have left the proverbial building. The fact that drugs are more easily available than ever makes it even cooler when someone wants to do it themselves. I don't even mind that so many of the posts look sudafed related. It is the DIY spirit that counts most, not the chemistry knowledge or scale. We all started somewhere, and most of us never planned to build a superlab, we just like to grow our own, whether it is from seed or from precursor.

But I do think the real heyday of clandestine chemistry has passed. It is just changing. The herd is slimming. Wide availability eliminated some, and competition cut out all but the most ardent capitalists. All that remain are the curious and the genuinely interested. And they are the best people anyway. And a few of the good ones probably started out trying to extract meth from Vicks inhalers based on a text file that was written before chirality was invented. It is on us to resist the urge to be shitty to that aspirant, and not scare them away or insult them back to the stone age.

In Redditspeak: "TLDR" There is always hope. The bee book is still being written. The fat lady has not sung. She is still waving glo sticks, and blowing up on the dance floor.
News / Re:
« Last post by carl on October 27, 2018, 07:25:56 PM »
And we have to consider the really huge impact that the easy access to whatever drug people wish to buy nowadays had for us.

Of course, partially that was the fault of the hive as a coincidence, since I read somewhere some bees made a business out of the production of certain exotic research chemicals, 2C-C was mentioned for example, and I would not be surprised if that includes many other exotic substances as well.
At least in the short time before the chinese took over this business completely, of course...

But regarding the option to purchase the usual illegal drugs over the internet, that is also of more importance for us and our hobby loosing popularity.
Back then, people who liked for example MDMA or meth, just came at some point to thinking how they could make these things just themselve instead, but now?
Before thoughts like this could come up, the next order was simply made, cheaper than it was ever too...
And given that ideas like "how do I make xxx?" for many people come up in times of having no access or having no cheap offer, this is much rarer in our present time.

Anyway, I am sure that will change some time, not long but we maybe have to endure a few years of some form of a draught.
We will get through this surely :)
As long as there are people who are, as lugh said, still covalent bound to chemistry and as a swarm together too, no problem in my opinion :)

Oh, there is also some group on reddit discussing our hobby, I have not really looked much into them, but at least a handful of people there seems to be also enthusiasts like us :)
We will never die out I am sure.
At worst, a "genetic bottleneck" for our knowledge... but I also think that won't happen, because that would take probably a few decades of no influx of newbees.
Edit: it is called "theehive", that group on reddit...
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