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Started by former_chemist, July 06, 2002, 02:58:00 AM

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UTFSE

there's a relatively simple source for ethanol be it diluted slightly. Mouth wash (aka Lister-something or other) contains about 24% for about $1 a litre discount super cheapo.

The alcohol distills out but still smells like the mouthwash which can (probably) be dealt with with activated charcoal/filtration.

Then on to drying like was mentioned afore  (CaO).

this is closest OTC but doesn't beat Everclear, etc.

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UTFSE

rumor has it heating lawn lime (CaOH) drives off CO2 leaving CaO. anything troof to it?

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former_chemist

Now the catch.  You have to heat it beyond red heat (825-1000C).  This is easy to do if you have access to a pottery kiln.

madprosr

what about drying your 95% EtOH with MgSO4?
is there some reason this will no work?

lugh


what about drying your 95% EtOH with MgSO4?
is there some reason this will no work?


    

Magnesium sulfate is soluble in ethanol, thus it's not a good choice for drying it. Calcium oxide is the traditional method  :)  Molecular sieve 3A would work  :)  Azeotropic distillation using benzene is the recommended route for drying, if drinking it isn't the goal, a little known method of drying ethanol is to boil out the azeotrope of dichloromethane and water; it's boiling point is 38.1° C, and is composed of 1.8% water. See Jour Soc Chem Ind 61 and Chem Ind 20 120 (1942) for more details  ;D  Using magnesium as described in Vogel's is another good method  :)  
 
 


VideoEditor

In SWIVE's dreams, he uses dried sodium carbonate where he used to use dried epsoms. Does anyone know if it is soluble in ethanol? SWIVE told me he's had good results drying ISO, methanol, acetone and VM&P naptha with it.

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bee186

Lugh hi, would CaO remove the H2O only or would it also remove the methyl alcohol denaturant?

thanks advanced

chemdork

is there a decent way to turn the MeOh into a solid
compound by the addition of something else?  Then simple
distill your goodies... any ideas?