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2-CMT 1H-NMR DATA

Started by politoxicomania, November 07, 2003, 11:21:00 PM

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politoxicomania

Ok  here is what i found:

For d,l Carbomethoxytropinone i found a wonderful NMR spectrum.  2-CMT in d6Aceton shows following peaks:
strong singulett at 1.650 mixed with aceton at 1.655
strong duplett at 2.000
singulett at  3.200
another strong singulett at 6.00
there are much impurities  but a specifical  triplett with 4J coupling is observed at 4.5

Anyone out ther who have Lit. about NMR data ?

pHarmacist

Anyways I generated this with the afro-mentioned software, hope it throws some light on whatever the problem is...

https://www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/hive/hiveboard/picproxie_docs/000469518-file_omec.jpg" title="View this image">


Rhodium

good estimate

I'd say that estimate sucks - you get the correct number of peaks and the approximate splitting of the peaks, but you will seldom get the peak's more than within ±1 ppm accuracy using ChemOffice.

pHarmacist

was refering to the output:

Estimation Quality: blue = good, magenta = medium, red = rough


Rhodium

That's what the program says, but compare that to the actual experimentally determined literature values:

(R)-(+)-2-Carbomethoxy-3-tropinone Proton NMR, Identical for the (S)-(-)-isomer.
Ref: J. Med. Chem. 37, 2001-2010 (1994)

1H-NMR (100 MHz, CDCl3) https://www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/hive/hiveboard/picproxie_docs/000469518-file_ovss.gif" title="View this image"> 1.5-2.4 (m, 7H), 2.32 (s, 3H), 2.75 (m, 1H), 3.32 (t, 1H), 3.75 (s, 3H).

politoxicomania

To pharma.... : Look at your Molecule u postet above..
is it 2-carbomethoxitropinone ??
No!

I also have gNMR and Chem office and i dont want these computed spectrums cause they are unbelievable in respect to the keto-enol tautomerie.

to rhodium: can u please make the above mentioned artikle viewable cause i have no possibility to get this medical journal in our chemical bib.

thanks in advance....

pHarmacist

For Carbomethoxytropinone i found a wonderful NMR spectrum. [Bla.. Bla.. Bla..]

To pharma.... : Look at your Molecule u postet above..
is it 2-carbomethoxitropinone ??
No!


;D


politoxicomania

After purification of 2-CMT (several sublimations at 1*10E-3mbar) i found this:

https://www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/hive/hiveboard/picproxie_docs/000469518-file_qhei.jpg" title="View this image">

Semms to be mainly the keto - form.
After a week the solution turned yellow, but no more NMR-spektra.... sorry


_mu_

I've seen 200 MHZ NMR spectra that were much cleaner. IIRC, at 200 MHz, you can see splittings of 5+ HZ. You sure didn't overconcentrate your sample?

politoxicomania

N = 7,33%
C = 61,07%
H = 7,66 %

The solution was very low concentration as u can see much H2O in relativly new D2O.

I think that ther are 90% of the Keto -form  and only 10%enol-form .