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Re: Real-life Breaking Bad: Chemistry professor busted over secret lab
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2015, 08:08:46 PM »
See I would have very little idea on how to rig up all of this large scale equipment, then again I guess you could probably learn via the internet. Perhaps a chemical engineering degree would teach you this sort of thing

These labs are operated by organised crime groups. Usually 5+ members. You wouldn't able to do it own your own, don't even plan it.
Most of these labs are run by a non skilled workers by the way.
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Re: Real-life Breaking Bad: Chemistry professor busted over secret lab
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2015, 08:13:33 PM »
How do you know that?  (about the unskilled workers)  That somewhat surprises me...  I mean it's not rocket science, but I don't know if I see unskilled workers making the product I've seen that was coming out of that group from Belgium and the surrounding area that got busted.  And if it was... Maybe that just changes the way I think about the term "unskilled".  :P


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Re: Real-life Breaking Bad: Chemistry professor busted over secret lab
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2015, 08:16:09 PM »
Probably trained, fairly well at that, to follow a batch record, but not having a PhD.

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Re: Real-life Breaking Bad: Chemistry professor busted over secret lab
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2015, 08:18:45 PM »
I guess all you really need is one chemical engineer/scientist to work out the fine details of what reaction your going to use, what precursors and how the machinery needs to be handled. I guess once you have this equipment set up its literally a matter of just following instructions

Add XX amount of XX chemical into Reactor A, heat for this long

Tip contents of this reactor into this reactor B add this chemical etc etc
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Re: Real-life Breaking Bad: Chemistry professor busted over secret lab
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2015, 08:20:17 PM »
Perhaps a chemical engineering degree would teach you this sort of things.

You do learn all environmental products and processes, technology lines, basically you learn everything from powder to pill, not to mention industrial fermentation, from L-PAC to using cells such as micro-organisms (Claviceps Spp.). The only problem is timing.
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« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2015, 08:29:59 PM »
These gangs have been doing this since the 90's.  That bust in 2013 was a sassy lab.  The know how to O2 whack and H2 reduce from years of practice.  One lab gets busted - another one is up and running and 2 more are in the works.  They get some guys but the demand and profits are so big, the knowledge so widespread, it is impossible to stop.  The precursors for the next ton are already on the boat.  They just move to another location, next time on Czech or wherever.  Or just set up again down the street.  It is like the tunnels they find under the US border with Mexico.  They serve their purpose and then they move on.  Or the narco coke subs.  One gets through is like $3 billion of product for a $100 million dollar sub.   These labs are the same way, cheap equipment, bulk precursors, take one down another one will pop up.

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« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2015, 08:53:47 PM »
You're probably right Zippy, but with all money, with all knowledge and with all chemicals, in the end the most important factor is LUCK.

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Re: Real-life Breaking Bad: Chemistry professor busted over secret lab
« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2015, 03:27:47 AM »
Want that fucking reactor!!! GIMME IT!!

Is that clay in those buckets????   like dirt clay?

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Re: Real-life Breaking Bad: Chemistry professor busted over secret lab
« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2015, 04:54:03 AM »
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No need for all that equipment.

Of course not. If one aim 99+ product, worth to invest decent  equipments (as other mega lab operators do in other countries).

A couple A/Bs in a $2 bucket will acheive this purity assuming procedure is being run correctly and optimally.

Woah hold on lipbalm oh great elder bee are you saying one need not use vaccum distillation on mdp2p or final mdxx freebase to get 99% pure product  just a simple ab extraction then a recrystallization?
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Re: Real-life Breaking Bad: Chemistry professor busted over secret lab
« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2015, 05:00:03 AM »
See I would have very little idea on how to rig up all of this large scale equipment, then again I guess you could probably learn via the internet. Perhaps a chemical engineering degree would teach you this sort of thing

These labs are operated by organised crime groups. Usually 5+ members. You wouldn't able to do it own your own, don't even plan it.
Most of these labs are run by a non skilled workers by the way.

Im have to disagree with you on that one fellow bee i believe you can do large scale synthesis with one man ! Have you ever heard of the fabled "dutch bucket method"?
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Re: Real-life Breaking Bad: Chemistry professor busted over secret lab
« Reply #31 on: September 15, 2015, 05:30:47 AM »
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Im have to disagree with you on that one fellow bee i believe you can do large scale synthesis with one man ! Have you ever heard of the fabled "dutch bucket method"?

I am intrigued.  Can you please elaborate on the 'dutch bucket method'.

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Re: Real-life Breaking Bad: Chemistry professor busted over secret lab
« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2015, 06:50:07 AM »
Well i read this once over at dxxxs-forum.com before they became snobs with knowledge and locked it all away and make you jump thru hoops now smh anyway a beenamed of piglets once said that you could syn up like 100 kilos  only using like 50 20L pp buckets and renting a paint booth he goes on to say that there were using NABH4 to do a reductive animation but it was low yielding because they heated the reaction i believe to speed up the synthesis idk if that exactly right because it was really long time ago but anyway i know large scale can be done with sodium borohydride pretty easily see labtop posts ! 8)
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Re: Real-life Breaking Bad: Chemistry professor busted over secret lab
« Reply #33 on: September 15, 2015, 08:21:25 AM »
I guess all you really need is one chemical engineer/scientist to work out the fine details of what reaction your going to use, what precursors and how the machinery needs to be handled. I guess once you have this equipment set up its literally a matter of just following instructions

Add XX amount of XX chemical into Reactor A, heat for this long

Tip contents of this reactor into this reactor B add this chemical etc etc

that's pretty much what pharmaceuticasl factory runs like too, you dont need any qualifications to get a job there, they will show you how to do a small part of the process. After time working there the more different parts of the process you will get experienced with like any factory job.

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Re: Real-life Breaking Bad: Chemistry professor busted over secret lab
« Reply #34 on: September 15, 2015, 05:29:40 PM »
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That's pretty much what pharmaceuticasl factory runs like too, you dont need any qualifications to get a job there, they will show you how to do a small part of the process. After time working there the more different parts of the process you will get experienced with like any factory job.

Fuckin' hell! I would love to work for such company. Where  I am from , it is impossible  to get a job in any pharmaceutical factory without a relevant experience and qualification.

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Re: Real-life Breaking Bad: Chemistry professor busted over secret lab
« Reply #35 on: September 15, 2015, 06:15:07 PM »

Fuckin' hell! I would love to work for such company. Where  I am from , it is impossible  to get a job in any pharmaceutical factory without a relevant experience and qualification.

That goes for anywhere. They even want irrelevant qualifications. I mean sometimes they want a 4 year college degree just to pull a handle up and down all day. And they wonder why soooo many people choose to work in the illegal drug trade.
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