Author Topic: How watched is elemi oil?  (Read 493 times)

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El_Zorro

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How watched is elemi oil?
« on: November 30, 2002, 08:19:00 AM »
Uhh, well, the title really says it all.  Well, in the US, anyway.

It is seductive, way too seductive.             -Eleusis

GC_MS

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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2002, 10:27:00 AM »
- not watched in .eu afaik
- would be surprised if it was watched in the .us
- better ask for small sample first...

Ave Hive, synthetisandi te salutant!

racemic

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i'd bet....
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2002, 08:59:00 PM »
I'd bet its not watched in the slightest, unless of course one does something obviously unusual like ordering ten liters to a household. There is no real rash of TMA out there and it would be too much work to watch all the Eleimi oil just to bust some small time TMA lab.

I have personally bought 250mL of Eleimi oil without worry. To know for sure we would have to know someone in the DEA.

"We'll give the good gangs badges and the bad gangs a silly hat to wear"

El_Zorro

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I'm just looking for about a liter of it, ...
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2002, 10:14:00 PM »
I'm just looking for about a liter of it, probably just once.

So nobody thinks it's really all that watched?

It is seductive, way too seductive.             -Eleusis

yellium

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You might consider calling the DEA for finding ...
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2002, 11:58:00 PM »
You might consider calling the DEA for finding out if its watched. Or post your question on every vaguely drug-related newsgroup.


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quantum

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ye dont you love that
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2002, 03:55:00 AM »
if somthing isont watched asking about it here is a sure
way of getting it watched :)

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racemic

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not likely
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2002, 05:29:00 AM »
I argue with that reasoning quantum. Think about it for a minute.

They wouldn't start a tracking program just because some bee was asking about such and such oil. NOT cost effective. Have you heard of the TMA scourge?(Neither have I) Would it be a good idea to start tracking Eleimi Oil just because a person on some site asked about it? No.

Shutting down or investigating a source that was mentioned yes. Clamping down on a product cause rarely someone might use it to make a drug? Doubtful. Sure if they found labs that had a couple of liters of Elemicin ready to go into production and it was becoming a problem sure but not anytime soon.

But like I mentioned before ordering anything in a suspicious manner is a bad idea. "yeah I need two cases of 35% H2O2 oh yeah for bleaching wood"

"We'll give the good gangs badges and the bad gangs a silly hat to wear"

yellium

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No dumbshit, asking for certain oils is a certain ...
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2002, 07:52:00 PM »
No dumbshit, asking for certain oils is a certain way to remind DEA-officers to do a few clicketyclick-checks to see if there _is_ a raise in suspicious sales of those oils. Or to set a reminder in their agenda to check again after three months.

The beauty of the hive is that it gives anyone, include law enforcement officers, a peak in the kitchen of the clandestine chemist.

Of course, LE officers might get more info from findings at clandestine labs in operation. They might not have the time to spend days wading through all the garbage on the hive. They might be addicted to the couch. I don't know. But the safest bet is that any post you make here is the same as talking about cooking meth in the pub next to the DEA office. 


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quantum

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I agree
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2002, 11:56:00 PM »
I belive it is resonable to think that the pigs are
just as capable as us if not more.
come on we can all search the web to find our own
chemicals and we dont need to have a full method spelt out
what would happen if say all of the phenethylamine's were
spelt out in an easy a to b synth like bright star's mdma.
all the chems would be as hard to get as sassy.
after all its only a few keystrokes away to write a program
that searches the hive for anything to do with
aquasition and synthesis or even say a users name.
I am saying this becouse around 3 months ago I could easily
aquire gaba from many health food stores now its all replaced
with l-glutamine hmmm wonder were the pigs got the idea
that gaba was bad mmKay.
na talking about drugs on the hive is cool but are we killing
our own trade by giving it away to early.
I know I would not have the chance to do any of this
if people took note of what I am saying but then it
is a realy valid point.
they are holding all the keys after all and we just keep
on telling them what doors to lock.



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foxy2

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problem
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2003, 06:54:00 AM »
Someone here stated that it(elemi oil) doesn't contain useable quantities of elemicin.  I think they said that elemi gum contains more elemicin. This is old second hand knowledge that stuck with me because I was once interested in precisely the same thing I presume your interested in.

good luck, I'd like to hear how it goes.


Vitus_Verdegast

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elemene
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2003, 03:43:00 PM »
I've always heard that elemi oil contains chiefly some terpene called elemene, no elemicin was ever mentioned in the literature i've read.
 


LiquidGaia

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terium.....
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2003, 02:17:00 AM »
what about ordering some Prickly-leaf Tea Tree seeds, growing the plant and may be xtracting the oil? (yes, not-i know it would be tedious not-I haven't been able to find a source, according to terium, its contains around 80% elemicin in the oil.)  Not sure about the amount of oil/kg leaf.


madprosr

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idiot-proof phenethylamine synths are gRRReat!
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2003, 02:58:00 AM »
i think the reason super-tight phenethylamine synths are not discussed here is because many people can't get the chemicals anyway right now. i concede, the more large scale nexu5 synths the underground starts doing (as well as posting), the more supply will go up and the chemicals become even harder to get.

but that is the entire point of the hive! to increase supply of pure spiritual/recreational drugs to the people of the world! if not now then when?

and so we go otc when we must. we start planting our friends and harvesting their essential oils. when we are not broke, we stock up on good chems while they are unwatched and remove the labels. the more smart bees stockpile, the more certain we can be that our favorite honeys cannot be erased from the land for a long, long time. it is good that this power is distributed, not in the hands of a few men who are profiting enormously while under insane legal dangers (like the brotherhood of love).

specifically-
i absolutely love barium's work. it's priceless. i hope he continues to post for a long, long time to come until the entire world is transforms itself into a very beautiful place.