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ScuzZ

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Higher Quality Meth?
« on: October 09, 2003, 08:28:00 PM »
Swim has dreamt, and dreamt again, but within these dreams swim has never been able to determine whether prefiring his RP makes much of a different on the quality outcome.

Do any bees have any comments on such?

abolt

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Do any bees have any comments on such?
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2003, 08:31:00 PM »
Do any bees have any comments on such?

Yep..............put your post in the correct forum. ;)


ScuzZ

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Forum decisions
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2003, 08:50:00 PM »
Swim was tossing up which forum was best to post this in, Meth is a stimulant, but the question regarded towards meth was a newbee question.

If it's in the wrong forum, I appologise.

ScuzZ

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Forum Decisions II
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2003, 04:54:00 AM »
Plus if you read the beginning posts in the Newbie forum, you would have read that specifically "Meth questions go in the stimulants forum"

So unless you're going to point swim in the right direction (let that not be up or down) keep the directionless posts to yourself.

Thanks.

WizardX

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What?
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2003, 07:25:00 PM »
What do you mean, "prefiring his RP"?

tao

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Prefiring
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2003, 08:15:00 PM »
He probably means running a reaction with only rp and I2 to create HI. Some people assumed the reaction would "clean" the rp because of higher temperatures.

But according to Rhodium's information on the reaction prefiring would only waste rp since it isn't a catalyst but a reactant.

Just clean your rp if from mb in acetone, hcl and water. Sulphuric if you feel it's necessary.


Gringo

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hm.......................
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2003, 12:38:00 PM »
hm.......................

I think its more than necessary to have General Purpose Grade Reactants and chemikals to optain clean end-produkts.
4 Example: It will be dirty if you put dirt together....

geezmeister

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dilute sulphuric
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2003, 03:02:00 PM »
Dilute sulphuric if necessary. Never use full strength to clean red phos.


ScuzZ

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Prefiring?
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2003, 07:25:00 PM »
Yeah, Sorry about the delays, swims connections been ditzy.

Swim prefers not to prefire beforehand, it was just another alleyway of knowledge that might have produced a stream of opinions.

newworldorder

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geez - why not concentrated H2S04?
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2003, 10:30:00 PM »
rumor has it that the strong stuff has been working  wonders for the gnomes...

is there a specific reason?

thanks

ScuzZ

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Higher Quality Meth
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2003, 04:09:00 AM »
Swims reaction does not contain H2SO4

It's Eph/P4/I2

SHORTY

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Re: Username: newworldorder geez - why not...
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2003, 08:25:00 AM »


  geez - why not concentrated H2S04?

rumor has it that the strong stuff has been working  wonders for the gnomes...

is there a specific reason?



I used it once and i don't know how or why but it turned the rp into a black sludge.




newworldorder

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scuzz - glad to hear you're not using sulfuric
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2003, 12:03:00 AM »
scuzz - glad to hear you're not using sulfuric in your reactions... its a real yield killer :P

i was actually asking geez for his rationale on avoiding conc. sulfuric to treat RP as SWIN has never had a problem with it... 

is it causing damage that is not visible to the naked eye?

geezmeister

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I have used an undiluted H2SO4 processing mbrp
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2003, 01:24:00 PM »
I have used an undiluted H2SO4 processing mbrp and created a pile of gray, clay-like substance that would not react with I2 instead of red phos. Using the same process with the same strikers and dilute H2SO4, I got a nice pile of red phos.

Several years ago ago I simmered the red phosphorous I collected from a pile of coffee filters to get rid of the paper fibers and had much the same result as I had with the strikers. None of the red phos in the filters was from match books. It doesn't take full strength H2SO4 to break down the paper fibers, and dilute H2SO4 does not damage the red phos.

Others have posted similar cautions. I was just repeating the caution.


callen

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What?
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2003, 06:29:00 PM »
Lately, my friend A.L.F. has been cleaning it's RP with Straight From the Bottle sulfuric acid, water wash, HCL, water wash, dry, Acetone wash. Hasn't used the RP yet. What's wrong with this?

callen

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OOPS...
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2003, 06:33:00 PM »
Sorry...I should have read the rest of the posts.The answer was already there.


Osmium

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Strong H2SO4 might oxidise some of your rP,...
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2003, 03:33:00 AM »
Strong H2SO4 might oxidise some of your rP, producing phosphoric acids. Don't use conc. H2SO4.


newworldorder

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that settles it....
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2003, 12:06:00 AM »
well, with geez and Os in in agreement - strong sulfuric on RP is history.

(although i never perceived any problems when using it)

(then again - i don't think my acid is truly concentrated >98% or whatever)

anyways - thanks for the info

bbell

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H2SO4
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2003, 05:26:00 PM »
Sulfuric acid is used in every thing, but is washed out when purifing. Anything that is a sulfate salt has used sulfuric acid. It's in your food, medicine anything you eat or drink.Not harmful if used appropriately.

SHORTY

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Your stomach contains hcl acid but....
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2003, 07:37:00 PM »
What would happen if you took a swig outta the bottle that you use to titrate with?  I think the main point is that its ok to use a diluted solution of sulfuric to wash your rp, however, avoid using the concentrated acid.  Personally, if an acid wash is necessary then i would use hcl and a little phosphoric.  The phosphoric seems to keep the rp in the beaker while decanting and since it will bee created in the rxn anyway then it won't do any harm if all is not removed.  I just can't stand the smell of sulfuric acid.