quntum dude sure he's a bit abrasive but he knows what he's talking about.
abrasive ? wow...look whos talking
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Re: Giant MDMA crystals
« Reply #120 on: September 07, 2012, 11:56:17 PM »
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Re: Giant MDMA crystals
« Reply #121 on: September 13, 2012, 01:13:01 PM »
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I never had an issue with creating large crystals of racemic MDMA. Sure, they weren't "shards" like d- meth, or whatever the hell the kids are calling it nowadays, but 500 mg rhomboids were possible with a very slow recrystallization in IPA, from boil to RT to fridge to freezer over 24 hours.
I picked up this method from another source.
Seems the majority on here dont think large crystals are possible from racemic MDMA.
Making nice big moonrock is the end goal for all of us but all the info on here seems to suggest fusing is the only way practically possible.
The method above looks very practical. Any thoughts?
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Re: Giant MDMA crystals
« Reply #122 on: September 13, 2012, 01:40:55 PM »
I think the main problem with this issue is establishing what ''big'', ''giant'' or ''huge'' crystals means. Its a pretty arbitrary and personal definition. You CAN recrystallize racemic MDMA, will it make the same crystal structure as pure d-methamphetamine ? No. Can they be as big and uniform as d-methamphetamine for the same amount of solvent/mass of raw product ? Hell no.
All the recrystallized racemic MDMA I came across to, when I actually bothered to try it, looked like very fragile and easy to cleave small rhomboid chips. They were essentially 0.05-0.1 cm in length. So I guess its all a matter of providing an actual scale of reference when people are discussing this issue.
All the recrystallized racemic MDMA I came across to, when I actually bothered to try it, looked like very fragile and easy to cleave small rhomboid chips. They were essentially 0.05-0.1 cm in length. So I guess its all a matter of providing an actual scale of reference when people are discussing this issue.
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Re: Giant MDMA crystals
« Reply #123 on: September 13, 2012, 02:36:04 PM »
Hello QD
Cheers for the response.
I guess in relationship to that method a 500mG Rhomboid is claimed. That would seem to fit the bill in terms of large crystal.
500mG I would assume is pretty large. I am slightly dubious of this claim.
Anything 0.75cm x 0.75cm and beyond would appear large in my eyes.
I think if I read the thread right just something that is beyond the standard HCL salt crystals we see all the time.
I guess some thing to look a bit different and have more of an appeal.
Cheers for the response.
I guess in relationship to that method a 500mG Rhomboid is claimed. That would seem to fit the bill in terms of large crystal.
500mG I would assume is pretty large. I am slightly dubious of this claim.
Anything 0.75cm x 0.75cm and beyond would appear large in my eyes.
I think if I read the thread right just something that is beyond the standard HCL salt crystals we see all the time.
I guess some thing to look a bit different and have more of an appeal.
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Re: Giant MDMA crystals
« Reply #124 on: September 13, 2012, 02:49:30 PM »
I attached a picture which was provided by DopeBoy at the-collective a couple of years ago who claimed those were racemic MDMA crystals (I do not claim any ownership of this picture). Sure enough, they look identical to what I obtained. Notice the planar cleavage segments, they are quite fragile and prone to break apart easily with minimal contact.
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Re: Giant MDMA crystals
« Reply #125 on: October 11, 2012, 02:19:37 AM »
This thread is starting to smell like shit. Since when is The Vespiary about discussing drug cutting techniques ?
There are sites, generally populated by k3wls and other lowlife trolls, that do discuss such matters at great length. There are other sites where it can be discussed guardedly, this is not one of those sites and has no intention of being one.
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Re: Giant MDMA crystals
« Reply #126 on: October 26, 2012, 02:23:54 AM »
Very interesting thread and one that addressed the question of the possible advantages of separating enantiomers, for bioassay, not crystal size.
Just had to add 2 cents on dirty molly..
This is to confirm that small, uncut, brown planar crystals of MDMA have had equal if not greater effects as pure white recrytallized MDMA.HCl everytime.
Guess it boils down to the racemic mixture that was formed during synthesis of each and if that is good, as Shulgin and others have expressed, the "high" will be "good" too.
Just had to add 2 cents on dirty molly..
This is to confirm that small, uncut, brown planar crystals of MDMA have had equal if not greater effects as pure white recrytallized MDMA.HCl everytime.
Guess it boils down to the racemic mixture that was formed during synthesis of each and if that is good, as Shulgin and others have expressed, the "high" will be "good" too.