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jon

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thio analouges of phenmetrazine available anywhere selling fine chemicals
« on: July 13, 2010, 03:52:41 AM »
has anyone considered these???

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=4300&d=1172865920

i was cruising bluelight and stumbled across this.
apparently some chemical companies sell these ostensibly as intermediates.
as well as thier halogenated and trifluoromethyl counterparts.
does anyone have any pharmacological data on this???

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Re: thio analouges of phenmetrazine available anywhere selling fine chemicals
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2010, 08:33:19 AM »
the first picture in that link is preludin. they dont make it anymore, but its pretty decent. the took it off the market because it has a high propensity for abuse, by people like me and my friends in high skool that used to take it from our moms.

the other pics, aint got a clue... but it shouldnt bee hard to find info on preludin.

here is a really long link discussing the synthesis of some substituted morpholine compounds...
http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20100063036

jon

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Re: thio analouges of phenmetrazine available anywhere selling fine chemicals
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2010, 04:15:07 PM »
i imagine it could be good stuff like you said it forced you to commit heinous deeds, such as pilfering your mother's medicine chest.
the whole idea is to skip the synthesis, and buy it right out; as it is'nt controlled.
why make something when you can just buy it?

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Re: thio analouges of phenmetrazine available anywhere selling fine chemicals
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2011, 11:56:31 PM »
I asked some friends from La Sorbonne about phenmeprazine or any morpholines-amphetamines analogs.

Many of them can be bought in China (and Thiomorpholine are pretty easy findable)



The Alpha-methyl group seems to be needed for stimulant activity (No way  :D)
R1 seems to be the most effective : R1-methyl is considered as a "putain de stim euphorique et tout et tout" (source : and old funky chemist, friend of mine).
R2 works but that's definitaly not the best position (Although R2-methoxy has been studied).
R3 or dimethylamine position is Phendimetrazine and is a pretty weak stimulant.

Substitution of the phenyl group seems to be a waste of time, I'll check the activity of those eventual analogs (Mdo, para methoyx, methyl or Trimethoxy groups on the phenyl) in books but I've doubts on it.


And finally  ;D I discovered that phenmeprazine is a pretty known substance in Chemistry studies (In France though) and that's synthetized by students 'cause it's a powerful and easy makable stimulant and It don't make bad come down (pseudo amphetamine activity).

In France it's made from Phenylpropanolamine + 1,2-dibormoethane.
R1 or R2 is made from phenylpropanolamine + Propylene dichloride.
Phendimeprazine is made frome (pseudo)Ephedrine + 1,2-dibromoethane or 1,2-dichloroethane.


and yes, 3,6-dimethyl-2phenylmorpholine is the most euphoric, pro-sexual and *Wow* substance tried by my pony & me  :D

Câlins de partiels,
Sodium Borohydride.
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Re: thio analouges of phenmetrazine available anywhere selling fine chemicals
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2011, 05:30:47 AM »
something that can make you cream yourself is definitley worth looking into for sure