Well seeing as some of my work has been posted here and I have a few friends I figured id join up. Zoklet was okay but most of those guys are tweekers and wannabee know it all assholes.... As for a little about myself and what I have to offer to this fine community, I am currently a student majoring in organic chemistry and psychopharmacology, have my BA and i am working twords my masters. Most of my research is centered on natural derivatives and substitutes for most of the fine chemicals that are untouchable without a license or registered research lab. Through extraction and basic chemical workup procedures using fairly OTC reagents one can make most benzaldehydes, ketones, allyl-xxx and so on even the MDP2P's and nitrostyrenes. Forget about LAH and redAl (you'll never be able to buy them let alone make it at home) go for Aluminium amalgam (murcuric chloride is available on ebay as well as several hobby chemistry sites) or for electrochemical reduction (which works for both phenylacetones and nitrostyrenes/propenes) Other advanced procedures include culturing, bioreactor design, vacuum aspirator construction, laboratory setup schematics, some inorganic chemistry for synthing solvents, methylation, amination and reduction reagents as well as household substitutes that can be purified for use in the lab. Ergot identification and propigation via the family farm method of small plots infested with ergot. Labware design and construction for those of you that have access to boro or pyrex tube and torches and kilns. I also have a wide knowledge of plant alkaloids and essential oils that can be used as building blocks for different pharms. some of my current projects include piperine and synthesis of lysergic acid derivatives.
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overunity33
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Yeah man glad you joned up. Your lsdotch synth is unique and applicable, something lacking in this generations bees. Also very impressed with your electrochemical reduction dreams. Glad to have you aboard, seems like you got a knack for (over)engineering/applied technology like I do, gives you a whole new perspective on things.
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welcome, nice to have you on board
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Wow amazing to have you here!
It sounds like the education you are receiving is something to be jealous over. I'd love to follow the same path.
It sounds like the education you are receiving is something to be jealous over. I'd love to follow the same path.
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we all work together here welcome to the vespiary our little bee hive.
i'm sure you'll be a great asset to the knowledge base warm greetings!!!
i'm sure you'll be a great asset to the knowledge base warm greetings!!!
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it feels good to bee here along with some people who actual know whats up in the chemistry world... not those that think they are chemists and call bullshit on those who actually are. i am happy to provide any help i can as i am a fellow psychonaut and headdy. feel free to ask me anything. i am here at your service.
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Welcome to The Vespiary DOS,
Would it be possible to provide more indepth first hand infomation about the electrochemical reduction or is this all theoretical? Its something my mind has been set on for quite sometime yet I have never attempted such a thing.
Would it be possible to provide more indepth first hand infomation about the electrochemical reduction or is this all theoretical? Its something my mind has been set on for quite sometime yet I have never attempted such a thing.
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the electro chemical reduction is pretty simple and uses stuff anyone can get, the only drawback is you have to watch your temps and it takes some time. this one is written for mescaline but it has worked in similar yields for many other phenethylamines and amphetamines, ones of note ate the TMA series, MDA/MDMA, lophonine and could presumably work for the 2C-x and DOx series as well; for a power source one could use a trickel charger that allows you to adjust the amperes.
iv. Mescaline. ( \ ) APPARATUS (Fig. 1) A cell of porous porcelain (PC)(exter-
nal dimensions: 75 X 160) with a glazed rim is placed in a glass jar of 500cc capacity (J)

(J), surrounded by a cooling bath (B). The anode (A) is a lead or carbon rod, surrounded
by a glass coil; the cooling water flows through the coil and is discharged into the cooling
bath. the cathode (C) is a sheet of lead (220X90X2mm), which previous to each experiment
is electrolytically coated with lead peroxide in a dilute bath of sulfuric acid.
(B) REDUCTION. The cathode liquor consist of 30g 3,4,5-trimethoxy-w-nitrostyrene in
100cc glacial acetic acid and 100cc alcohol , to which 50cc conc.
hydrochloric acid has been added. The anodic compartment is filled to the same level occu-
pied by the catholyte, with a solution of 25cc conc. sulferic acid in 175cc water.
The recudtion requires 12 hours, using a current of 5-6 amperes; the cathode current density
should be about 3 amperes (INS> .03A/cm2) per square centimeter. the temprature is regulated
by the flow of cooling water and the catholyte should be kept at 20*C for the first 6 hours. the tem-
prature is then allowed to rise until it reaches 40*C at the end of the reduction.
When the reduction is complete, the catholyte is filtered, evapurated in vacuum and the residue
taken up in 300cc water. Unreacted nitrostyrene is extracted successivly with ethyl acetate and ether.
the crude Mescaline Hydrochloride solution in a separatory funnel is then treated with a cold consentrated
solution of 100g sodium hydroxide and the liberated base exhaustivly extracted with ether. the somewhat
consentrated (evapurated) and dried (potassium carbonate(anhydrous)) is treated with a stream of dry hydrogen
chloride gas (acid gas) and the separated (precipitated) hydrochloride twice recrystaled from abs. alcohol.
the pure mescaline hydrochloride thus obtained in 77% yield forms white leaflets melting at 184*C
iv. Mescaline. ( \ ) APPARATUS (Fig. 1) A cell of porous porcelain (PC)(exter-
nal dimensions: 75 X 160) with a glazed rim is placed in a glass jar of 500cc capacity (J)

(J), surrounded by a cooling bath (B). The anode (A) is a lead or carbon rod, surrounded
by a glass coil; the cooling water flows through the coil and is discharged into the cooling
bath. the cathode (C) is a sheet of lead (220X90X2mm), which previous to each experiment
is electrolytically coated with lead peroxide in a dilute bath of sulfuric acid.
(B) REDUCTION. The cathode liquor consist of 30g 3,4,5-trimethoxy-w-nitrostyrene in
100cc glacial acetic acid and 100cc alcohol , to which 50cc conc.
hydrochloric acid has been added. The anodic compartment is filled to the same level occu-
pied by the catholyte, with a solution of 25cc conc. sulferic acid in 175cc water.
The recudtion requires 12 hours, using a current of 5-6 amperes; the cathode current density
should be about 3 amperes (INS> .03A/cm2) per square centimeter. the temprature is regulated
by the flow of cooling water and the catholyte should be kept at 20*C for the first 6 hours. the tem-
prature is then allowed to rise until it reaches 40*C at the end of the reduction.
When the reduction is complete, the catholyte is filtered, evapurated in vacuum and the residue
taken up in 300cc water. Unreacted nitrostyrene is extracted successivly with ethyl acetate and ether.
the crude Mescaline Hydrochloride solution in a separatory funnel is then treated with a cold consentrated
solution of 100g sodium hydroxide and the liberated base exhaustivly extracted with ether. the somewhat
consentrated (evapurated) and dried (potassium carbonate(anhydrous)) is treated with a stream of dry hydrogen
chloride gas (acid gas) and the separated (precipitated) hydrochloride twice recrystaled from abs. alcohol.
the pure mescaline hydrochloride thus obtained in 77% yield forms white leaflets melting at 184*C
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It's a pleasure to have you here DOS and welcome to The Vespiary! Excellent work on the oxychloride procedure among others. Hope to see you stick around!
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