I dont think you are cluttering or breaking any rules, but the road to acquisition is like the road to enlightenment and best walked alone.

10 grams of HgCl2 were delivered to a person that I hold near and  dear to my heart and I wouldn;t feel right telling how easy or hard it was for him to do it. Seek and ye shalll find. Just dont tell the world how easy is was or they will and it wont. GodSpeed Drone.

Thanks for your advice people. In hindsight this topic is probably not such a good idea. The main idea I wanted to get too  new-bees like me is that although it seems daunting at first when drying to source your chems, if you put in the research and dedication it is an achievable task.

I see a lot of truth in drones statement now that the road to acquisition and enlightenment are two which are best walked alone!

Fuck CHINA! Buy American and keep them good fellas afloat.

well it's sentimental to want to support american businesses but the truth of the matter is they are under american jurisdictions and laws and will prefferably sell you out over themselves.
the expression being sold down the river is explained thusly

(Sold Down The River" refers to the Mississippi River. Slaves that "misbehaved" or made escape attempts were often sold to the Deep South, where punishments were harsher and slaves were treated worse. It was a method for breaking up family units and separating husbands and wives, parents and children, etc, as well as selling escapees or any other slave no longer considered worth the cost to keep.)

and let's face facts; incarceration is another type of slavery when slavery ended officailly the penal system was implemented to fill the need for cheap labour.
and it continues today.

the columbian drug lords preferred death to american prisons.
now that's saying something.
all kinds of punishments are meted out that are constitutionally defined as "cruel and unusual" in the united assfuck.
the "cotton quota' as you mentioned the "ho squad".
if you get injured it's the "broke dick squad".
a lot of shit goes on behind those walls, people getting shot for stepping a little too close to the fence or, dragged there afterwards; the atrocities are too numerous to count.
and no one cares until it's thier turn to face the grim reality of incarceration.

Keep in mind that everything which goes through customs will result in an entry in a government database. This entry will contain the source, destination, contents, date, etc. This entry will be stored indefinitely - for our purposes, consider it forever.

Just because you get your stuff fine without a CD doesn't mean everything is okay either now or a year from now.

If one order is compromised, could someone go back and find more using the same pattern? Could it be totaled up? If there were a pattern, might something in order #2 (sequentially) disagree with something in order #4? Amateur chemistry is a persecuted hobby. To stay in the clear, you must not only be in the clear, but all appearances must also be in the clear.

This doesn't totally kill the source, however it is something to keep in mind.

Anyone who thinks I am being overly paranoid should go back and read the Eleusis story.

I'm going to be somewhat veiled on this one. Those of you who know your stuff will understand what I'm saying.

Here you go Hypnos:

hxxp://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/eleusis/memoirs.html

I was hoping to get some feedback here, so here's what i did

i sended a quote to chemical company about 1,3 propanediol to use in my cars coolant, i just asked price and what quantities they ship in, i sent the message with my own name and sayed that i could pay by western union.

the company soon sent me message that their sales representitive is on holiday till 15 day this month, they gave second email to contact, and i did, the same thing happened.I know they will reply in time, but i was hoping you guys could tell me how long to wait before getting paranoid.As far as i know car coolant grade propanediol isnt regulated,and i didnt mention anything about the chemistry nor wrote 1,3 propanediol.

im in europe so i shouldnt get in to trouble for ordering it?

When you say the payoff for winning is huge as well, do you mean making money?  Is that the fundamental goal?

There is much more to life than having 'a stack of cash and a load of bitches'

I haven't got the first, what I do have, is saved up carefully so I can see the lady in my life. As for a load of 'bitches'....I really don't get how people can just give themselves to a bunch of random women either. It has long been my way to pledge my body not to some pack of women shallow enough to throw themselves on the first man to flash a wad of cash their way. Thats not a way to find a true deep, meaningful relationship. Women who will sleep with a guy for what he has, rather than what he is, are not going to be the ones who will be there when it REALLY counts. When all else has hit rock bottom, and a guy needs to know who he is, and who in his hour of need he can really KNOW can be believed in, and focussed on, as a source of hope, a light at the end of the tunnel when everything else is dark, and the person in question needs to look inside himself, and look out to something, to knpw without having to ask, who is on their side and who or what will throw him to the wolves.

Only reason Toady is around today is because he knows who he is and what he stands for. And when the walls came crashing down around him he knew that he did not have to question weather there would be a light at the end of the tunnel, he knew that light would be there when it counted and was not simply bought. If the only reason a woman is there is money, they will go to the next source of a good living and an easy ride if they must, rather than bee able to be believed in when all else turns to shit.

Someone who really gives a shit, who really matters and who really can bee counted on to pull a guy through his darkest hour, is the sort of person who would sooner look at an empty plate and go hungry with the one they give themselves to, by their side, than live life well fed and easy at the side of someone whp has more, but cares less.

Its about what a person stands for, and who they are, not what they have.

Toad features would sooner live owning nothing, and having nothing but the coat he wears, enough to stay alive and no more, but in the arms of miss toad, who he KNOWS he can trust always to be straight with him than live rich and have all the designer clothes and gear in the world, yet when he is in his deepest hour of need, there might be nobody he can count on to stick by him, as long as he deserves that, and nobody who will not desert him in favour of somebody who has a faster car, a bigger stereo, flashier clothes etc.

Better to bee able to say, without hesitating 'YES I do know that I will be honoured and treasured, and damn straight that what I hear is the truth' yet be poor, cold and hungry, than to be warm, well fed and for there to be nobody at his back when the wolves come snarling and snapping, and everybody runs the fuck away, leaving one to be torn to pieces the very first chance they get.

Toad face would sooner have just one or two people that he could, if he had to, come to on his knees begging their help just one time in their lives, to pull through for him and have faith that his needs would be looked out for, than a thousand fucking facebook 'friends' that wouldn't lift a finger to help him.