So, I just spent far to many hours reading about routes to phosphorous, thought it might be a good discussion topic. Useful for making PCl3, PCl5, P2O5, and of cours P4.
The method that stuck out to me was the microwave route.
Activated Charcoal
Phosphoric acid
nuke the sucker for 5 minutes or so.
No I have heard of this working, but it appears most hobbyist are of the faint of heart and don't necessarily want phosphorous compounds in, near or around them (who can blame em'). Well I thought up an adaption to the procedure and think it could remedy some of the sloppiness without requiring dangerous microwave drilling/modification.
So, the thought is to completely contain the reaction. The problem would be how to trap the phosphorous when every things HOT, well simply put, an icebath. The ice will melt slowly(because of the crystalline lattice it warms far slower then water) but the water will not boil condensing the phosphorous.
So first vessel sealed with an outlet connect to a tube. tube carries gas to next vessel which is bubbled through the ice water. That vessel has an outlet which is connected to a... balloon. The balloon serves to contain all gaseous material making this experiment more user friendly.once complete, everything is removed from the microwave. The balloon can be removed and either bubbled through the ice water again to pick up any remaining P4 or I believe you could separate out the P2O4 perhaps by freezing(would it work out that way?). Or I suppose you could just take the gaseous mixture of P2O4 and red phosphorous and further react it with chlorine gas.
whole reaction can be visually monitored through the melting of the ice cubes and the volume of the gas in the balloon. It can be aborted at any point.
Any bets whether this pipe dream will pan out?
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6207024.html reference for microwave reaction.
The method that stuck out to me was the microwave route.
Activated Charcoal
Phosphoric acid
nuke the sucker for 5 minutes or so.
No I have heard of this working, but it appears most hobbyist are of the faint of heart and don't necessarily want phosphorous compounds in, near or around them (who can blame em'). Well I thought up an adaption to the procedure and think it could remedy some of the sloppiness without requiring dangerous microwave drilling/modification.
So, the thought is to completely contain the reaction. The problem would be how to trap the phosphorous when every things HOT, well simply put, an icebath. The ice will melt slowly(because of the crystalline lattice it warms far slower then water) but the water will not boil condensing the phosphorous.
So first vessel sealed with an outlet connect to a tube. tube carries gas to next vessel which is bubbled through the ice water. That vessel has an outlet which is connected to a... balloon. The balloon serves to contain all gaseous material making this experiment more user friendly.once complete, everything is removed from the microwave. The balloon can be removed and either bubbled through the ice water again to pick up any remaining P4 or I believe you could separate out the P2O4 perhaps by freezing(would it work out that way?). Or I suppose you could just take the gaseous mixture of P2O4 and red phosphorous and further react it with chlorine gas.
whole reaction can be visually monitored through the melting of the ice cubes and the volume of the gas in the balloon. It can be aborted at any point.
Any bets whether this pipe dream will pan out?
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6207024.html reference for microwave reaction.


