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Re: Hey
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2010, 08:16:48 PM »
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Re: Hey
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2010, 08:18:03 PM »
you inspired me to go on another cycle but my d-bol probably got snagged at customs all 10 grams of it.
benzyl alcohol is a preservative ethyloleate is a good thinner so you don't wind up with a boil in your ass as some steroids tend to crystalize in the muscle and that's pure pain!
cottonseed oil is the thinner of choice but what i do is just thin the steroids and draw it up in a 22 gauge then throw it in a pot of hot water for 30 minutes so everything is sterile plus it goes in easier hot anyways.
benzyl alcohol is a preservative ethyloleate is a good thinner so you don't wind up with a boil in your ass as some steroids tend to crystalize in the muscle and that's pure pain!
cottonseed oil is the thinner of choice but what i do is just thin the steroids and draw it up in a 22 gauge then throw it in a pot of hot water for 30 minutes so everything is sterile plus it goes in easier hot anyways.
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Re: Hey
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2010, 08:30:13 PM »
I cannot remember which forum, are you on WD ? I often remember obscure things out of context and perhaps the name is coincidental
Yeah I'm on there but never posted
you inspired me to go on another cycle but my d-bol probably got snagged at customs all 10 grams of it.
benzoic acid is a preservative ethyloleate is a good thinner so you don't wind up with a boil in your ass as some steroids tend to crystalize in the muscle and that's pure pain!
cottonseed oil is the thinner of choice but what i do is just thin the steroids and draw it up in a 22 gauge then throw it in a pot of hot water for 30 minutes so everything is sterile plus it goes in easier hot anyways.
Rofl Jon, you're not too hard too convince
I'm actually thinking about maybe starting a test enanthate/dbol cycle next week lolI actually meant that benzyl alcohol is used as an anti-bacterial agent, my bad.
As for the oil, I normally use cottonseed too
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Re: Hey
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2010, 10:06:49 PM »
Don't know the exact price right now...I'm REALLY interested to know what other steroid you can get
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Re: Hey
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2010, 10:39:04 PM »
shit hit me up what are you paying for enanthate?
i can get it 104 for 10 grams kinda steep but it always gets there.
d-bol is the tit's man! (pun intended)
Jon I will only say this one last fucking time so listen up! This is not a place to Sell,,, Source... wheel and deal...
Do you understand what this means or would me putting my foot up your ass so that its closer to where your heads at make it clearer? If it comes down to it I will see about having your rights to PMs removed.
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Industrially a good starting point for steroids synthesis are steroids sapogenins. Diosgenin comes to mind. I don't think total synthesis would be viable economically considering the complexity of the molecules. Quite a few chiral centers as well.
The over the counter suppliment DHEA is the starting compound of a few steriods and they are easy to make at home and most if not all can be synthesized from cholesteral,,, yes that shit in your blood from eating to many burgers,
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Re: Hey
« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2010, 10:45:25 PM »
Jon I will only say this one last fucking time so listen up! This is not a place to Sell,,, Source... wheel and deal...
Do you understand what this means or would me putting my foot up your ass so that its closer to where your heads at make it clearer? If it comes down to it I will see about having your rights to PMs removed.
You can actually delete our last posts...It's not to nice in my intro thread lol
The over the counter suppliment DHEA is the starting compound of a few steriods and they are easy to make at home and most if not all can be synthesized from cholesteral,,, yes that shit in your blood from eating to many burgers,
Yeah I was only talking about what they really do in the industry.
As for home chemistry, I've never actually checked synthesis, but looking at the structure of DHEA and considering that it's totally over-the-counter, it would be a great starting point for sure
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Re: Hey
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2010, 11:42:45 PM »
sedit you must have a real axe to grind with me, what's with all the animosity?
ok point taken
ok point taken
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Re: Hey
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2010, 12:42:41 AM »
yes dhea is a good steroid precursor to make something like boldenone it would go like this:
dhea in ethanol add borohydride all chilled (mindful of foaming) portionwise observing the evolution of h2 when it subsides add more.
quench with dil hcl, flood with water and decant the supernatant other by-products are produced but they are anabolic as well, if your a purist you can use chromatography.
seleninum oxide oxidation is used to get the diene system.
esterification could be done undecylenyl chloride and pyridine at room temp overnight.
when done you simply add water and rinse off the excess pyridine and nastys with water, recrystallization could be used to further purify this.
steroid chemistry is pretty easy.
dhea in ethanol add borohydride all chilled (mindful of foaming) portionwise observing the evolution of h2 when it subsides add more.
quench with dil hcl, flood with water and decant the supernatant other by-products are produced but they are anabolic as well, if your a purist you can use chromatography.
seleninum oxide oxidation is used to get the diene system.
esterification could be done undecylenyl chloride and pyridine at room temp overnight.
when done you simply add water and rinse off the excess pyridine and nastys with water, recrystallization could be used to further purify this.
steroid chemistry is pretty easy.
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Re: Hey
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2010, 02:35:21 AM »
sedit you must have a real axe to grind with me, what's with all the animosity?
ok point taken
I would say its not personal but you seem to be the only one that repeatedly ignores warnings and rules against this sort of thing and after a while it begins to feel like babysitting other then conversing. How hard is it to think before clicking the button that says post? You are sitting here talking about making drug deals with someone who you know NOTHING about so if you think im being a hard ass for my sake think again.
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Re: Hey
« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2010, 02:50:42 AM »
ok i understand, my intentions were pure however, as i don't sell steroids; the margins are just to low.
i was alluding to a company that does so, and is out of the jurisdiction of the statutes of the united assfuck.
but, i can see how you interpreted that as me trying to sell something, i'm not, neither does that violate any laws.
It's what the people who use roids refer to as "bro talk"
i was alluding to a company that does so, and is out of the jurisdiction of the statutes of the united assfuck.
but, i can see how you interpreted that as me trying to sell something, i'm not, neither does that violate any laws.
It's what the people who use roids refer to as "bro talk"
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Re: Hey
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2010, 02:53:55 AM »
Not to mention you could just PM the user to begin with - which why wouldn't you?
However I am completely against trading on this forum. This site is a forum of information and that is it. However, I know sometimes rules are broken here - but if you are going to break the rules, at least do it discretely so you do not set a bad example for other users.
On iffy subjects just PM the user.
However I am completely against trading on this forum. This site is a forum of information and that is it. However, I know sometimes rules are broken here - but if you are going to break the rules, at least do it discretely so you do not set a bad example for other users.
On iffy subjects just PM the user.
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Re: Hey
« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2010, 02:57:02 AM »
ok yes i learned me lesson
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Re: Hey
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2010, 03:54:19 AM »
Sorry to burst all roid users bubbles but have yall ever seen some one who bulked up on roids a couple years after they stopped using them?
There mussles on there arms look like a deflated balloon since they QUICKLY return to there normal size and they are all wrinkled and stretched marked like a new mothers of triplets belly if not worse. The human DNA is designed to keep you at the weight and shape you are suppose to be and bulking up unreasonably using chemicals will seriously fuck up the way you look without a doubt. This was all witnessed first hand.....You WILL be bald due to excess testostrone being converted to dihydroxytestostrone and good odds your balls will shrink. Your skin will have scars that look like someone knifed you 100times with a razor and in the end I dont feel that a little extra bulk is worth it....
Do you?
There mussles on there arms look like a deflated balloon since they QUICKLY return to there normal size and they are all wrinkled and stretched marked like a new mothers of triplets belly if not worse. The human DNA is designed to keep you at the weight and shape you are suppose to be and bulking up unreasonably using chemicals will seriously fuck up the way you look without a doubt. This was all witnessed first hand.....You WILL be bald due to excess testostrone being converted to dihydroxytestostrone and good odds your balls will shrink. Your skin will have scars that look like someone knifed you 100times with a razor and in the end I dont feel that a little extra bulk is worth it....
Do you?
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Re: Hey
« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2010, 04:06:26 AM »
Sorry to burst all roid users bubbles but have yall ever seen some one who bulked up on roids a couple years after they stopped using them?
There mussles on there arms look like a deflated balloon since they QUICKLY return to there normal size and they are all wrinkled and stretched marked like a new mothers of triplets belly if not worse. The human DNA is designed to keep you at the weight and shape you are suppose to be and bulking up unreasonably using chemicals will seriously fuck up the way you look without a doubt. This was all witnessed first hand.....You WILL be bald due to excess testostrone being converted to dihydroxytestostrone and good odds your balls will shrink. Your skin will have scars that look like someone knifed you 100times with a razor and in the end I dont feel that a little extra bulk is worth it....
Do you?
My intro thread is become controversial
I agree with what you says, but it doesn't happens to that extent IMO. I've seen many cases and it's not THAT bad.
By the way, I don't want to look like a smart-ass, but it's dihydrotestosterone. And aromatization to estrogen and reduction to dihydrotestosterone derivatives doesn't happens with every compound. It's actually quite a bit more complicated than that. Your statement almost exclusively apply to testosterone and it's esters.
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Re: Hey
« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2010, 04:12:46 AM »
yeah that's why you don't go on long cycles it's hard to come off after 12 weeks because it sucks breaking a cycle but, if you continue with it you just get diminished returns fucked up cholesterol values and you don't keep you gains because you shut your nuts down completely then you have to do hcg shots and if you fuck up and do to much you end up shut down permanently it's not something to play around with.
it's affected me i have like zip sex drive now and bitch tits, nothing's free.
it's affected me i have like zip sex drive now and bitch tits, nothing's free.
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Re: Hey
« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2010, 04:15:34 AM »
You are correct Roidrage parden me, Dihydro it is, Im just drawing that hydroxy off the top of my head and hydroxy is a habit. I agree its not always that bad but the person I witnessed was sadly only 19 years old and already deflated. He was a freind but the effects where to strong to be ignored.
Im sure they can be used with responsibility but lets face it,,,, drugs and responsibilty rarely go hand and hand when it comes to the masses using them.
Im sure they can be used with responsibility but lets face it,,,, drugs and responsibilty rarely go hand and hand when it comes to the masses using them.
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Re: Hey
« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2010, 04:51:42 AM »
steroids are a different addiction you feel superstrong, enegetic, they enhance your life and, it's hard to break that habit.
but the reality is using them past 4 months you have to change the roids your using because your receptors get downregulated so you have to change your cycle then your cholesterol gets out of whack and side effects becomes apparent, it's the law of diminishing returns.
biology sucks like that.
but the reality is using them past 4 months you have to change the roids your using because your receptors get downregulated so you have to change your cycle then your cholesterol gets out of whack and side effects becomes apparent, it's the law of diminishing returns.
biology sucks like that.
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Re: Hey
« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2010, 11:19:13 AM »
You are correct Roidrage parden me, Dihydro it is, Im just drawing that hydroxy off the top of my head and hydroxy is a habit. I agree its not always that bad but the person I witnessed was sadly only 19 years old and already deflated. He was a freind but the effects where to strong to be ignored.
Im sure they can be used with responsibility but lets face it,,,, drugs and responsibilty rarely go hand and hand when it comes to the masses using them.
I agree, I've seen a lot of abuse lately, even by 15 years old. It's sad since it can be pretty damaging at that age, screwing their endocrine system for life.
steroids are a different addiction you feel superstrong, enegetic, they enhance your life and, it's hard to break that habit.
but the reality is using them past 4 months you have to change the roids your using because your receptors get downregulated so you have to change your cycle then your cholesterol gets out of whack and side effects becomes apparent, it's the law of diminishing returns.
biology sucks like that.
4 months cycle are long enough in my opinion for a ''normal'' person. Unless you're competing in bodybuilding competition, there's no need to push it over that. Better take a break and restart later. I'm pretty sure test could be run all year long and still gives impressive results nonetheless.
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Re: Hey
« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2010, 05:03:38 PM »
test can be run for a olng time indefinitely even but, you stop gaining after 3-4 months because your anabolic receptors in your muscle get downregulated so all your doing is
keeping your hypothalmic pituitary testicular axis shut down for longer periods of time than 3-4 months means when you go off cycle you lose all your gains.
i made that mistake but i still managed to put on a few pounds of muscle.
it's hard to stop because hell it's fun slamming weights around 2-3 hours a day and not being sore later the endorphins kick in after an hour and it's the second wind and you just go and go and go it's well, hate to say it, addictive.
but a better addiction than crack or heroin, it's more positive.
actually it keeps you clean from drugs because the iron becomes your drug.
nothing like lifting twice your body weight on the bench press.
that testosterone base formula is the way to go for bodybuilders on a budget it cost a dollar and some change to make a gram from dhea, it's one step; a chimp can do that.
test base gets eaten up by the liver so you make an alcohol solution and take it sublingual 2-3 times a day.
i think we out to do some of that chemistry here.
test is the best!!!
keeping your hypothalmic pituitary testicular axis shut down for longer periods of time than 3-4 months means when you go off cycle you lose all your gains.
i made that mistake but i still managed to put on a few pounds of muscle.
it's hard to stop because hell it's fun slamming weights around 2-3 hours a day and not being sore later the endorphins kick in after an hour and it's the second wind and you just go and go and go it's well, hate to say it, addictive.
but a better addiction than crack or heroin, it's more positive.
actually it keeps you clean from drugs because the iron becomes your drug.
nothing like lifting twice your body weight on the bench press.
that testosterone base formula is the way to go for bodybuilders on a budget it cost a dollar and some change to make a gram from dhea, it's one step; a chimp can do that.
test base gets eaten up by the liver so you make an alcohol solution and take it sublingual 2-3 times a day.
i think we out to do some of that chemistry here.
test is the best!!!
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Re: Hey
« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2010, 11:26:31 PM »
haha I love how every introduction thread just gets blown up recently... ill do my part, jon what do you think of sr4 by sarms labs?