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Most Awesome Insect Ever - My Pet Mantispid.
« on: October 26, 2010, 06:14:12 PM »
Walking back from the bus stop I looked down and saw a bug that I've been searching for, for a very long time.

It is called a Mantispid. Its crazy  - half wasp, half prey mantis. Spooky as hell. Hopefully I can keep it alive and possibly breed them - I'd have to find another one, and this time of year it probably isn't going to happen.

Mine looks exactly like the one in the photo. I think it might be injured, or just a really clumsy and awkward bug.
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Re: Most Awesome Insect Ever - My Pet Mantispid.
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2010, 07:12:28 PM »
This thing is real!?
Damn,I tough it was real only on DMT...
Never knew that bugs of one species rape bugs o another! ;D

If it didn't get better from warm environment,your "pet" (you probably can't pet it since it will freak out and bite you   ;D )
won't survive,I am 99% sure.

Probable cause why it is clumsy is due the fungal infection of airwaves that kills a lot
of flies, mosquitoes(thanks God!) and other usefull and useless bugs in fall.

Other than that Mantispids have one of the most complicated and amazing lifecycle I know abbout!

Best luck!
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Re: Most Awesome Insect Ever - My Pet Mantispid.
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2010, 11:11:33 PM »
It actually is pretty insane! I was petting it (Or jabbing my finger in its face) and it has an incredibly fast strike..
Its amazing.
It did warm up and it has gotten better.
It is now living in a polypropylene 8oz deli cup (those things are so useful!) with some wood skewers and some dirt.
I need to get some food for it though, little fruit flies or something.
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Re: Most Awesome Insect Ever - My Pet Mantispid.
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2010, 12:17:43 AM »
According to the article by Engel et al:

h**p://digitallibrary.amnh.org/dspace/bitstream/2246/5880/1/N3587.pdf

adults have been seen eating honeydew  ;)  These insects are biological pest control agents, which means that more information about what they can be fed and perhaps even commercial feed formulas may be available  :P  They actually eat wasp larvae, perhaps they would eat worms sold for fish bait  8)

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Re: Most Awesome Insect Ever - My Pet Mantispid.
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2010, 01:15:00 AM »
Interesting - mine seems to eat honey. That is good.
I'll look into it a bit more. I figure with the claws, surely they must also eat insects.

That sucks it also sounds like their larvae eat spider eggs, etc.
What a bug, could it pick something harder for reproduction? lol
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Re: Most Awesome Insect Ever - My Pet Mantispid.
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2010, 06:45:40 PM »
Jesus.. I'd piss myself if I saw one of those in my house.

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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2010, 11:57:39 PM »
I have a spider myself, I thought it originally a brown widow (Latrodectus geometricus), but I believe, possibly it may be some species of the order Uloboridae, which are interesting, as aside from the primitive Liphistius sp. and a single species of spider that feeds on the protein-rich packets of food on the tips of certain acacias, it is the only order completely without venom, no venom, no atrophied venom glands, no venom ducts in chelicera, nothing.

They feed by ensnaring prey in silk, then pouring digestive juice into the package, literally dissolving the prey alive, no venom, but damn, nasty way to go.

I want to get into keeping arachnids/insects actually.

Currently trying to pursuade my stalker/unofficial relationship of some sort/drop dead sexy, 45-YO classically autistic love of my life chick to go look around her boiler room in the place she lives in in the states for Latrodectus sp., not sure which species are around in montana where she lives, wichever are most cold tolerant I should think, as latros don't seem to thrive well in frigid climates.

Vesp, is it permissible here, obviously not in terms of chemical/drug/equipment trading, but is it allowable to say something to the effect of will pay shipping+food+small amount of money if requested, as I have very little
as a general request to members, where local inverts are concerned?

I'm in the UK of course, so I cann't go hunting really myself, although I think I might go and try to catch some of the common Dysdera sp. myself, fascinating spiders, really powerful jaws for their size, one gave me quite a nip once as a kid, which hurt surprisingly much, for a spider posing no real threat to people, they have massive chelicera for their size, as they hunt woodlice, which they are easily capable of puncturing right through those armoured shells.

If its not ok, then just let me know and I'll not continue.

Wish list though, if its acceptable to post, would be any of the US native widows, Centruroides scorpions of any kind, Latrodectus tridecimguttatus of the european area, any of those Liphistiid spiders, for those in the tropics.

And particularly, for anybody in areas where they might occur, the scorpion Parabuthus transvaalicus, I have been after one of those big time, neat as hell, they are the spitting cobra of the insect world, takes quite a bit to do so, but if you piss them off big time, by handling irresponsibly, then they are capable of hosing you down with a jet-blast of venom for a distance of upto a meter, or slightly more, and likely aimed right between the eyes. Sting is medically significant, but unlikely to be fatal to a healthy individual, and certainly not one of the REALLY worrying Buthid scorps.



Only spiders I'm not willing to pay for/adopt are Phoneutria (brazillian wandering spiders, highly venomous, but hard to care for, lightening fast, and highly aggressive), Atrax/Hadronyche, the funnelwebs and tree funnelwebs of oz,

And Sicarius sp , the six eyed sand spiders, think venom almost identical to the cytotoxic venom of the recluses, Sicarius is a brother genus to Loxoceles really, and they are very mild tempered, but lightening fast, apparently throw themselves some distance up tank walls, but their venom...sheesh fuck me, it contains massive orders of magnitude more of the cytotoxin sphingomyelinase-D found in recluse venom, but whereas a recluse might deliver 30mcg or so of venom, it isn't impossible for some of the meaner Sicarius species to deliver 45 times that, only known to bite humans on a rare few instances, but of known bites, one guy lost an arm, and two others died, a bite from any of this family is likely as severe as that of a gaboon viper or puff adder, and much harder to treat, given there is no antivenom available.

So of course, good tempered or not, am I HELL going to keep one as a pet :D
Hell, I would happily keep Leiurus or Androctonus scorpions, but not those spiders, the effects of envenomation, apparently amputation is the reccomended thing before the venom gets systemic, or at least so the locals of the african areas they occur in believe.

And of course, the Amblypygids, tailless whipscorpions,  their relatives the Uropygids, vinegaroons have the impressive talent of blasting a spray of acetic acid out of their backsides, these have no vinegar spray, but are stealthy as hell, almost like an active preying mantis, having similar joint orientation combined with spiked forelimbs, in the way they hunt.

How is this for cute:

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Re: Most Awesome Insect Ever - My Pet Mantispid.
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2010, 09:22:26 AM »
Whats with the fuckin FINGERS!!!
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Re: Most Awesome Insect Ever - My Pet Mantispid.
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2010, 11:18:36 AM »
All the better for fingering you with, my dear.....

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Re: Most Awesome Insect Ever - My Pet Mantispid.
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2010, 07:32:35 PM »
you come up with the strangest ideas.

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Re: Most Awesome Insect Ever - My Pet Mantispid.
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2010, 11:34:25 PM »
My mantispid died. :(
However, that bug with the fingers is seriously strange!
That is shocking, bugs should not have fingers!

here is a video of my mentispid being all pissy :)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpw9DNyixVU[/youtube]
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Re: Most Awesome Insect Ever - My Pet Mantispid.
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2010, 06:04:40 AM »
They aren't fingers though, the tip spines on the limbs of whip scorpions aren't mobile, they are just used to impale prey, in a similar way to the foreleg spines of a preying mantis.

What happened to the mantispid? COD?
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Re: Most Awesome Insect Ever - My Pet Mantispid.
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2010, 06:12:43 AM »
COD?

Just died, I think he was sick... he got better for a while.. than just found him dead.
Oh well :(
Must have had that disease suggested a bit earlier.
Glad I found him though, been wanting to find one since 4th grade when I first found out about them.
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