I'd guess tryptamines, so I would think you could add tryptophan, or something similiar to help it along but who knows, I have heard adding tryptamine compounds to magic mushroom grows can increase the mushroom's potency, but this could just be an urban legend.

That is good to hear that any indole derivative will work, but do you know if it will actually increase the wanted alkaloid content? I guess adding indoles would at least ensure that it will have adequate resources, if not increase the alkaloid content through some other process. 

Vesp- There's dozens of different strains of ergot but only a few that have appreciable amounts of lysergamides in them.

The refs. are out there if you're interested.

I'm indeed interested!

Quote from: Vesp on April 14, 2009, 10:10:56 PM

I'd guess tryptamines, so I would think you could add tryptophan, or something similiar to help it along but who knows, I have heard adding tryptamine compounds to magic mushroom grows can increase the mushroom's potency, but this could just be an urban legend.

Not a legend but reported by Jochen Gartz in Journal of Basic Microbiology 1989, 29(6), 347-352.

- Murphy

He has a patent on this too. The Shroomery has plenty of information on this with regards to mushrooms. To sum up the immediately obvious information, adding tryptophan to the growth culture increases 4-OH-DMT content slightly. Adding tryptamine increases it significantly, and every other compound in range of possible biosynthetic pathways increases it by about the same amount as tryptamine (i.e. NMT, DMT, 4-OH-tryptamine, etc). Researching this is a great way to waste a day--added bonus, mushrooms have been shown to hydroxylate foreign alkylated tryptamines as anyone who has read TiHKAL knows.

BTW, a quick google search turned this up: http://mic.sgmjournals.org/cgi/reprint/118/2/485.pdf
But honestly, I doubt very much LSD is made from fungi.

Im confused as to what you mean? That text does not speak of LSD but of ergot alkaloids which are the precursors to LSD.

I know, that was in relation to the above discussion on increasing alkaloid content by adding certain amino acids or precursors.

Why exactly would you doubt that LSD is made from Fungi when the most common of all starting material arises from the Ergot fungus?

Just because something is common doesn't mean it'll be used. Vanillin is far more common than safrole but MDMA is rarely made through the former. Using fungus just isn't practical in when compared to diverting ergot alkaloids from medicinal use. Not all clandestine chemists think only in terms of OTCness like you, Sedit.

Personally, I don't see the problem with starting from morning glories, and seperating the alkaloids with chromatography.

Why go to all this trouble to locate ergot, care and culture it, then extract the alkaloids? any old Lysergia will do, as long
as you can get it to an anhydrouse lysergic acid salt. (which is very possible.)

I don't know if you've ever cultured mushrooms, vesp, but its a pain in the fucking ass when cultures go bad.
Especially with something as seemingly tempremental as ergot, which really wants a living grain, has tiny fruitbodies,
and is fuck impossible to obtain.

Identifying a propper ergot strain from the wild is really not my forté. Personally I find it difficult to accurately identify species because you're never quite sure what you've got.
There could be any number of variations from what you've read or seen. Just look at p. semilanceata;
wildly variable. You get those little tiny brown seethrough ones, when they're young, right through to 5 - 6 inch
monsters, which are tan with brown gills, and usually by that size they're looking a bit shaggy around the edges!

One thing entirely sitting on the net looking for information and discussing, but another entirely going out and identifying
the species in question, cuturing it with acceptible losses due to contamination, and then extracting alkaloids from it.

IMHO, just buy the seeds. Its far more reliable.

you know i wonder why windowlycker got it up the ass for buying 10 grams of ergocrystine when it had'nt been scheduled at the time of his arrest?
is there some sort of retroactive/unwritten law involving the ergopeptides?

probably a mole informant type situation

from what i understand he bought it from some company in the eu. that likely informed customs who informed the dea

director of sound i have a few methods that are chemoselective i'd like to share with you for dehalogenation of aryl systems.
this one i like in particular.
my question to you is how would the 9-10 conjugated double bond respond to the lewis acid zinc chloride?
can you predict if there would be a rearrangement to a napthelene type system?
this system is mild conducted at room temperature in a biphasic system of thf/ammonium chloride and zinc
the mechanism is simple the ammonium chloride activates the zinc the thf ligands the metal cation which metalates the aryl halide the arylzinc halide is then reduced by ammonium chloride.
what do you think?
also i hear the peptide coupling methods are'nt all they're cracked up to be because they are water sensitive is it true anhydrous lysergic acid has to be used in the peptide coupling routes?

http://rapidshare.com/files/424170765/Zn_NH4Cl.pdf

^palladium no way in hell are you going to get ergoanything for $1 per gram try at least 15 more realistically 26-50 dollars per gram.