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Oerlikon

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Drug as tool and toy ;D
« on: October 27, 2010, 09:11:24 PM »
I like to think about drugs like tools.
As I might told this earlier I am in quest for my own personal for specific purpose,
since I am surely not alone I decided to share this with you guys.

Those are criteria: 
Long lasting euphoric downer drug of the average to little bit higher strength to to kill depression, boredom and (social)anxiety (my normal day)
and enjoy in music,for seldom use (once a month or so) when I am forced to socialize with boring & stupid people, travel or do other boring stuff.
All that with moderate requirement of availability and nobody noticing that you are high.(For Job etc...)
Preferably w/o long term damage to brain and naughty come down.

Tramadol is without question No.1 for me now,it has same serotonine effect like low dose of MDMA with cozy buzz and controllable nod
of the morphine that lasts for solid 12+h, with afterglow of additional 12-24h!!! Not mentioning that 200-250mg dose sever me well for years
now w/o even slightest increase of tolerance and no obvious side-effects! Unfortunately I almost run out of it and faking Zygomatic bone
fracture to my doctor for third time might be a little bit suspicious, and I obviously don’t want to really break anything or push grandma down
the stares to get a darn stuff so I am in quest for another substance.  ;D

Thanks to your help and mine efforts I have plenty of MDMA now and it can serve the purpose,but downsides are that
it is just a little bit too speedy and short acting for this purpose,not as controllable and you are noticeably high above 100mg doses,
not mentioning naughty come down. I cured mine booze problem with MDMA and don't want to go back on that ride, weed is out of question to
since it is so damn unpredictable for me and makes me useless.

So what are your opinions and recommendations!?
MDEA seems to be interesting but I can't get ethylamine for now.
I also ordered some Kava Kava and will give it a try.
Recently I became very interested in substance named Methaqualone(Quaaludes,Sopors,Mandrax...)!
No one ever heard of it here and I can't find under which name is it sold in the Europe.
Any info on availability,synthesis,experience is welcome!
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Re: Drug as tool and toy ;D
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2010, 11:29:02 PM »
Search over at black light for information concerning this substance in a thread started by a member known as Murphy.
There once were some bees and you took all there stuff!
You pissed off the wasp now enough is enough!!!

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Re: Drug as tool and toy ;D
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2010, 01:08:52 AM »
I have some experience with Kava - it has differing effects depending on extraction.  A water/alcohol extraction is what I like for going to bed - muscle relaxant.  Isopropyl extraction of the resins is nice for anti-anxiety and sometimes a bit of a buzz.

Check out selegeline (l-deprenyl).  A low dose (<10 mg) daily with a gram or so of DLPA might do you nicely for work.  It also helps with the depression.  5 HTP or a gram of tryptophan at bed can help too.

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Re: Drug as tool and toy ;D
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2010, 01:56:23 AM »
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Recently I became very interested in substance named Methaqualone(Quaaludes,Sopors,Mandrax...)! No one ever heard of it here and I can't find under which name is it sold in the Europe. Any info on availability,synthesis,experience is welcome!

This substance causes a lot of traffic accidents for those who abuse it:

http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/quaalude.html

One person who did more than he should have knocked his trailer off it's support blocks with his truck  ::)  Further information on it's synthesis can be found at WD Restored  ;) You might want to reconsider this particular idea as it has a downside 8)



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Re: Drug as tool and toy ;D
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2010, 02:14:39 AM »
What black light!? Cant find it, link if you might please...

Kratom and Kava sound interesting,but they are hardly available here.
I don't need these on daily basis, just once on month or so...
Taking the Tramadol every day or every few days would make me addicted, but I don't even have any tolerance.

I am mildly depressed and moderately anxious almost very day but it hits me really hard
once a month or so like yesterday-today,I was so bad I wasn't able to reply on PM
not mentioning taking trash out...Damn, I slept for 18h straight w/o any substances!
I really must go on the village to get my head straight, I wont be by PC few days but keep posting
if you have something to say I will answer when I am back. Though it is nice to mention so I
doesn’t look like an ass or retard when I reply it after few days.
 
Thanks to the MDMA I "promoted" my depression to artificial bipolar,at least I have great weekends every now and then!
I am responsible though,I take a lot of vitamine E,C, beta carotene and Mg day before and few days after
along with 5-10mg Diazepam for come to get some sleep and 5-HTP to fight serotonine lose...
Unfortunately it condition screws with my gastric system.
That means things like stress, excitement and some supplements (like 5-htp) make me s..t
and fart like mad, it sounds funny but it is humiliating and crippling! It was nightmare in the school.

What WD!? Damn I know I found this link before... Sorry guys but I am so screwed up today...
I have attention spawn of retarded 2 year old with brain tumor.

Methaqualone sounds fine! I don't drive while intoxicated and I doubt it has more side-effects than opiates.
As I said, it isn't for every day use.
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Re: Drug as tool and toy ;D
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2010, 11:36:59 AM »
Isatoic Anhydride is available from a sly canadian supplier.  If you were into Ludes I would recommend you to there as it is easy to go from Isatoic to Quaaludes.

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Re: Drug as tool and toy ;D
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2010, 11:45:15 AM »
tramadol is quite a good drug for depression, I would think being on a daily dose of <300mg would be fine, with mild withdrawals after a few weeks of daily use, but probably quite mild, like sneezing and some sleeplessness

  I used to take  this drug for chronic back pain, it works well for pain, and I found it really stabilized my moods, making them very consistently on the 'up' side of life, in general, both in elevated mood and physical energy
   I was taking 200mg sustained release tablets twice a day, but I found the SSRI effects kept me awake at night, so I have changed to something else
  I;m not sure where you are but doctors all over are aware of tramadols antidepressant effects, so maybe you could approach your, or another doctor with this reason as well as a sore leg,  I am sure your doctor would prefer to prescribe you tramadol, rather than say a benzodiazapine together with paracetamol,

  Methaqualone is a potent sedative, but its like getting a bit pissed but with  that fuzzy feeling x 10,, you could sleep anywhere
« Last Edit: October 28, 2010, 11:48:42 AM by hypnos »
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Re: Drug as tool and toy ;D
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2010, 11:57:09 AM »
It's not going to be called WD Restored for much longer :

http://127.0.0.1/talk/index.php/topic,1273.msg14299.html#msg14299

Drugs are tools for those that use them properly, but they're a problem for those that don't  8)
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Re: Drug as tool and toy ;D
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2010, 12:49:50 PM »
Hypno, doctors here do what they were  thought to do, they don't give rat ass for Tramadol
anti-depressant effects and it mostly substituted Morphine in small clinics. For them it is just
another "narcotic" like codeine. As I said, I take it only 1-2 times a month and of the stronger stuff
like pharmacy grade Morphine when I got it (10-15mg twice a year or less)

I don't think that taking it every day would be a great idea, it is opioid after all, and I love those
so much it would be too hard to quit.

Drugs are tools for those that use them properly, but they're a problem for those that don't  8)

Precisely my point!

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Re: Drug as tool and toy ;D
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2010, 04:36:21 PM »
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5-HTP to fight serotonine lose...
Unfortunately it condition screws with my gastric system.

Look for 5 HTP with enteric coating -it bypasses the stomach Solaray is a good one.

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Re: Drug as tool and toy ;D
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2010, 10:45:33 PM »
mdma reboots the brain if you will so if you're depressed and do mdma especially, mda it kicks you out of the depression.
even if you do it once or twice.
try mmda i hear it's like mda but it relaxes you.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2010, 11:43:24 PM by jon »

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Re: Drug as tool and toy ;D
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2010, 11:06:24 PM »
I am back...

Jon,you mean MMDA (5-Methoxy-MDA)!?

I considered this compound some time ago but chemicals needed to
make it are extremely expensive and hard to get.
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Re: Drug as tool and toy ;D
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2010, 05:30:14 AM »
parsley oil can't be that expensive

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Re: Drug as tool and toy ;D
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2010, 05:27:32 PM »
Interesting, I totally forgot about that source of Myristicin,thanks Jon!
Shulgin's procedure also requires pretty nasty tetranitromethane and some other
hard to get chemicals.
I assume it can be made into ketone and than into amine in
same fashion as safrole if methoxy group is inert enough.
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Re: Drug as tool and toy ;D
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2010, 02:40:33 AM »
you can use any method on myrsticin that is used on safrole