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Re: Brugmansia
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2011, 07:14:26 PM »
Niggers first, jews second, then the palestinians and poofs at the same time.... :P:P:P

And I meant, like the guy I posted of who just left a bag of rather iffy drugs lying around to be found, if the person concerned did not, in fact, steal it, it would remain there. The punishement was self inflicted. Karma, protects those who protects themselves, aside from when arseholes are involved. But in a circle of decent human beings, don't act like a cunt, you won't USUALLY get treated like one.

On the other hand....somebody treats me like dirt, I will crush them without hesitation....I read from the other bible matey.

Its not always the case where the filth can deal with something, or for that matter will do. If somebody takes a swing at me in the street, I am not going to hop around dodging and weaving while I dial the phone and try to hope I don't end up on the recieving end of a knife, or the guys 10 mates a mile off but summoned for backup.

No, I'm going to turn round, kick the guy in the head, knee him in the solar plexus,  clap both hands over his ears, and ram him in the nearest dustbin, face down in the shit. Then leave, to go about my business unmolested.

After everything the bacon have visited on me, I don't want them in my house to take a statement, etc, for I know damn well they will 'smell weed' when there has been not a scrap in the house in the best part of 6 months, possibly more, or 'see something illegal' in a closed box, or closed cupboard that was never opened in the pig's presence....etc, then a full scale 'investigation' will kick off, lab kit gets taken, thrown about, chemical containers get handled by ignorant gorillas who I wouldn't willingly sit within 200 meters of while they handle so much as a spoonful of sodium carbonate...etc.

Last time hundreds of animals died because of those pricks, what next? my cat ? me?

Sorry, but if I am under threat, or somebody takes a huge lend, or for that matter puts my friends or loved ones under threat then I would rather strike a crushing blow first, than crawl to the pigs, after I, they, or both get out of hospital and hope they both find the shitbag responsible, which often is not about to happen, and hope they get more than a months' community service etc, and then immediately start looking for the fucker that got them there in the first place, along with all their mates.

A beasting is less likely to draw heat IMO of that nature, your average brainless waster isn' SO stupid as not to realise 'if I start dishing it out, eventually I might dish it out to somebody who will take it, and dish out a whole lot worse'

Calling the filth...nobody likes a snitch.

Besides...if somebody says, steal drugs, for instance, as was done in that case I mentioned, what are you going to do? go whingeing to the old bill and say 'waahh he stole my weed', sure, thats going to help a lot, really it will.

Let him without sin cast the first stone, yes, but when somebody starts throwing stones at YOU, be sure to send a brick back in their direction before they bury you, and if you do need to act that way, make sure it does the trick.

Speak as they say, softly, yet be ready to whip out the big stick.

Say..somebody raped one of your kids, if you have any, or the one you love? got busted, and got sentenced to a measly year or two, getting let out in months. Are you honestly telling me you could/would walk by that fuck in the street, and let him live, putting other women in danger, for every virulent, vile breath he is allowed to continue drawing?

Belladonna, Brugmansia, the Mandragora, henbane, scopolia, the chalice vine, etc, and the Daturas, they remind me of perhaps, the embodyment of the greek enchantress Circe, powerful, yes, and capable of being used for healing, but dangerous, and of course, capable of driving men mad.
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Re: Brugmansia
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2011, 07:39:06 PM »
LOL ......Me 3 ............. but i think its nesecery to draw the lines like you did and not just dish out megolomaniac self justice on some silly old cow of a teacher or others  . There has to be some sort of justification and i can follow what you said and would act the same . ........ mostly ....... If there was a chance to walk away i`d do it . If that didnt work i`d try to tell the person to leave me alone and if they didnt then i`d kick the fuckin shit out of the bastard .- The bit about the freedom of choice is also OK as far as i am concerned ....... someone wants to sniff someone elses powdewr they should be carefull . One wasnt talking about cases like that  one ment self justice and going over the top and ofensively doing things to people . If they do it themselves tough fuckin luck .......

As far as the plods go i can think of a few that need arresting at 9 am and then be given every chance to defend themselves , call witnesess , psychiatric examinations ....... the full deal and then at two seconds past 9 have their heads put in the gutter and given a neck shot ............. but i still wouldnt even give them datura or any other drug ......... I wouldnt give it anyone ever and i think that anyone who does things like that is a mental cripple and just as bad as the victim ........



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Re: Brugmansia
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2011, 07:50:34 PM »
Ewwww.......

And sorry, but Miss toadgoddess would be rather unhappy about that, I believe.

As for such porkers as are deserving of a bullet in the back of the head, I belive psychological/pharmacological/physical torture far more deserved. A corpse cannot suffer.
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Re: Brugmansia
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2011, 08:13:30 PM »
"And sorry, but Miss toadgoddess would be rather unhappy about that, I believe."

Ah !!! Sozle i didnt realise she doesnt want a prince ....... are you lesbians ? ...........

I can understand the suffering bit but i still wouldnt do it like that . I think locking people up is enough  Have you been in nick ? Its BIG shit and enough mental castration and psycho terror on its own . I`m more the gentelman boxer or street fighter and have probably watched to many kung foo films = no weapons unless theres no choice or they start with them .

Have done the baseball bat bit and kicked people when they were down . Now know that some of them didnt give me the chance to do otherwise but with others i have a guilty conscience = what has to be done in the heat of the moment must be done , each level of violence has to be dealt with as mildly as posible so that it stops but not more .

Have a daughter that looks like A.Jolie , is realy fuckin cheeky and walks around in leggins and a working man type vest . All skin tight and black so am expecting to be invited to identify said fresh meat at any moment BUT if it happened i wouldnt do the killer any damage if the courts dealt with him . I think and plan to go and visit him and help him if i can . But if the courts didnt happen the cunt would soom be an ex cunt . .....but not a tortured ex cunt .

Do you see the line i`m trying to draw ? Angemessen gewalt .  And not atom bombs on flys . Or giveing people drugs . First go the way step for strep and then if there is no choice a clean cut ..........

Maybe best to get back to ....... does some miserable old cow deserve to be dosed ? = No .

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Re: Brugmansia
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2011, 08:56:26 PM »
Lesbian? ey?

Toad god+toad goddess=toad couple.

Toad god=exclusive property of toad goddess. Nobody else gets a lookin.

Simple really, clearer now?

Yeah, Tsathoggua has been locked up, on remand, for 8 months, when they set him up for a fall. Its shit, got in quite a few fights with punks with points to prove. One beat the shit out of him, and would have done worse. Not somebody who Tsathoggua could take on toe to toe and come off best reliably.

So he had to be poisoned with a mixture of nicotine and potassium chlorate, spiked into jam packets that had been allowed to go 'off' after being spiked again with a small quantity of sub-surface soil, to encourage the growth of toxic anaerobes.

Left kindly in the perp's breakfast bowl one morning.....next thing Tsathoggua knows, the big dirty great meathead was in hospital.

To quote Niccolo Machiavelli, 'For government consists mainly in so keeping your subjects that they shall be neither able, nor disposed to injure you'

Goes just the same in dealings with others. Ideally, leave them wishing you no harm, but should they be determined on it, a halfarsed response which leaves them both aggrieved at getting slapped down, just leads to it brewing, festering, and making them very determined to screw you. And given the element of surprise on their side, makes it all the more easy, and all the more likely that they will succeed.

The old boot of a teacher PROBABLY didn't deserve it, I wasn't there, so can't really pass objective comment. But there are some,who most certainly need squashing like bugs. Although most bugs, don't need squashing like bugs, that, would be animal cruelty if done for the sake of it.
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Re: Brugmansia
« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2011, 09:53:21 PM »
"clearer now?"

Toad-o-sexuals ? Animal fuckers ? When she squeezes your glands have you tried smokeing what comes out ? Personaly i`m a black jewish palastinian heterosexual lesbian......

We are on the same wavelength i think as far as what needs to be done = what NEEDS to be done ..... but not more = doseing someone is only OK if there is absolutely no other choice  = old cows dont need to be poisoned . Maybe that old bag was someones toadgodess and maybe they felt like poisoniing the poisoner ? Big never ending circle ...... dont get no one nowhere . To me the buck must stop somewhere . Or things could spiral up . Someone must show bigness and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdopMqrftXs

Justice needs to be seen to be done . Injustice breeds injustice .

Not just to his toadness to all  --------- > What has someone got to do to be justifyably dosed ? In what circumstances ? Do we want to live in a world like a greatfull dead nightmare concert where everyone is trying to dose eachother with datura ? Do you think people should have a fair trial before being punished ? Would you want one ? Again it dont mater who you are someone somewhere will have something against you and / or not like you ...... is it OK for them to dose you ? If yes what about being a volunteer lab rat ?


The bit i said about neck shots was not serious its just an emotional response to abu-graib tactics . I wouldnt dose the fuckers either but if i could remember their faces and had the chance they would all get battered ..



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Re: Brugmansia
« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2011, 03:43:14 AM »
 I agree with PSE, bottom line "we gets what we give, just NOT where we gave it".....so "give thoughtfully"

   there are MORE than enough sociopathic cunts asking to be fucked, IMO, without creating "psychotic sociopathic cunts"....

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Re: Brugmansia
« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2011, 08:21:06 AM »
Lol hyppy. At least a delirious psychotic sociopathic cunt is too incapacitated to go and hurt anybody, targeting their actions like that shouldn't be possible, at least not when you can't recognize a human to tell him from the nearest lamp post, or the purple glow in the dark squirrel you are sharing your meal of grilled own penis in a burger bun with, who keeps refusing to give you a lighter that won't fall through your hand to light your imaginary cigarettes with.

MOST people, I don't think this sort of treatment should be inflicted on. Let it not be thought that I am advocating the general petty revenge on petty arsewipes. But serious scum, yes. And I wouldn't hesitate to send a box of BZ-tainted donuts from a little old lady who is truly, truly eternally grateful for the way the good officers saved her from having to share her town with those filthy drug users, and the way they tazered and battered those unarmed, disgusting dangerous young boys and little girls unconscious so they couldn't decide they wanted to resist arrest, to the local pig shop.

Well, truth told, no, not the local one....if Tsathoggua ever decides to do that it shall bee to a hog farm far, far from his own neighbourhood, although that is not just to avoid shitting on his own doorstep, but of course, there are not many pig shops in blackest N'kai, but BZ spiked piggietreats mysteriously turning up....questions would be asked, one of them being 'who here could obtain BZ from a diverted military CW source'

Answer, unfortunately for Toady is likely to be 'nobody', second question would be 'who has a grudge against the filth' follwed by the third question 'who has a grudge against the filth and chemical knowledge sufficient to manufacture BZ'

Gods damn....it would be absolutely hilarious, and not to mention, the massive, prolonged hammerblow delivered to their manpower and ability to be a coherent scumbag unit could be worth a lot for the right sorts of operations......
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Re: Brugmansia
« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2011, 08:56:04 AM »
LOL.2 .....nice fantasy ...........  But ......

And "At least a delirious psychotic sociopathic cunt is too incapacitated to go and hurt anybody" Might be but others need six or more people to sit on them and restrain them ........plus straight jacket and intraveinous thorazine injections to jugular vein ...... that shit can make wild and VERY energetic ........... one  < ---------- THIS one .......... once ran up to and jumped over a wall higher than one without even touching it in trying to escape imaginary people chaseing him . Pig so suprised and concerned  after victim knocked on his door asking to be protected from imaginary monsters on roofs oposite he drove said victim home in a pig car no questions asked .......... inspite of victim clutching fat bag full of booty from doctors bag .......... mommy was not amused .......

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Re: Brugmansia
« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2011, 09:49:36 AM »
You inadvertently knocked on the door of some donut-scarfing dicknibbler, off your twat on an antimuscarinic deliriant, with a bag full of stolen pharmaceuticals whilst gibbering about the shadow people? and got away with it? how...the....fuck..

Wouldn't be too bothered about the effort it would take to restrain them. I wouldn't bother, it would be far more fun to follow them on their rampage, watching them skin themselves and fry it like...ahem....bacon..., chuck themselves off the roofs of high-rise flats,  sit down, arse naked with not so much as as a sock over their bleeding halfeaten knob-stump in the middle of oncoming traffic to play cards with the space leprechauns or just plain and simple pull their own teeth out with their bare trotters.

If Tsathoggua ever does it, though, he thinks he would have to add a panicogen of some sort, not enough to make things boring and just kill with seizures, but a potent GABAa antagonist, just enough to fall slightly short of having their shrivelled, black, serpentine, gutless little hearts burst but more than enough to cause a continuous 48-hour, abysmal, miserable, agonizing personal terror-hell...if they didn't check themselves out of course beforehand.

Oh fuck...that would be so fucking funny.
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« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2011, 12:56:43 PM »
It was 1972 or 3 ------> my theory why ----->  i was well known as a person that could carry his load alone , could well look after himself in a fight and didnt bullshit or fuck around so said pig took it seriously especialy as he saw how confused and absolutely frightened i was after hours of running and hideing from imaginary followers  .  Probably was shit scared and wanted to get me off his doorstep and not get dragged in . ------> facts -----> One must say one has met some realy nice / good / decent pigs in ones time . One that offered to sell evidence back , 3 that warned of comming busts even smoked joint together in dealers house with one , another one that bought hash from dealer partner and sold it at pig colledge and got caught and kicked out without informing on dealer = its brother , 2 that wordlessly picked me up from home drove me to pigstye and let me stand outside a cell and listen to someone hystericly grassing me up , another two times i was allowed to watch two people being taken into interview rooms and was shown the false statements that they made about me when pigs came out of interview room afterwards after the three of us were arrested together  . I lived in a small town and had been to school with some of the pigs who had been school friends and other pigs didnt like grassers and the family scum that was grassing me up for things i had and hadnt done . Twas "docksen of dick green" TV series  time where the local boby was a decent chap mostly . Pigs that said "Dont shit on your own doorstep . We dont give a fuck where you break in so long as its not on our turf" . The scum pigs came from outside , usualy the big city

 I cant be sure but i remember some of the contents of the bag falling on the floor of the car dureing the ride home and me picking it up and checking it . Mommy imediately confiscated the bag so i know the rest was real from followers to pig to ride home  .

The trip had a 3-4 day come up , a 6 week peak and about 2 years comeing down ....... never came down fully . Still have ocasional slight effects and bad memory .

That datura experience was the biggest but there were LOADS of others useing pure scopolamine from doctors surgerys , travel sicknesss pills , plants , cremes fmade with plant part extractions that were rubed on insides of for arms , oir soles of feet , or temples / side of head . <------- one said one had loads of experience with the shit = often over a period of about 4 years .

EDIT - This story and warning is told to try to get people to not fuck themselves and their lives . I was a TOTAL dick and i want to save others from the same HELL .
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Re: Brugmansia
« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2011, 01:46:09 PM »
Why the blazes did you repeat it? I can understand 'doing' (you do not 'do' antimuscarinics, they do you) such a plant once, maybe even twice, to see if that really did just kick the living shite out of you, as dumb as that is. But repeatedly? why, in the name of jesus H shit-nibbling christ on a flying bike would anybody do that?
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« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2011, 03:08:59 PM »
Because that one was the only realy BAD one and i dont run away from things ......... and ....... because i over estimated myself ....... thats what i keep talking about above ...... its like a test plant ........ it shoiws people that over estimate themselves and / or under estimate it that they are wrong ......... i was warned........ before i went outside i was wandering round the house . On one walk about i walked across the landing past the stairs and felt there was a presaence eminateing from the hall down stairs . It put the shits up me but as i wanted to learn and as i dont run away i eventualy forced myself to take a look . What i saw was a BIG steaming sweating sulphur smelling muscle man with cloved feet and a bulls head with horns with BIG bright red bloodshot eyes and a body covered with hairs like a hairy mans body ........ it eminated ( <---- wrong word ) power and was if it was trying to make me run off ....... so dick head walked down the stairs and shouted at it , walked through it and out of the front door ...... bollock naked 2 - 3 in the morning and started knocking on doors ....... Now looking back i think it was my subcosncious throwing an image of the Ur-symbol of a devil to warn me not to walk through the door .......dickhead took it wrong and did the worst thing . The whole thing came because of studying books about ESP and unexplained phenemenen . What came out was the saucery thing and trying to use plants to change myself and to grow . i learned that datura is a powerfull "ally" and that the few people who actualy do use it and survive go off their rockers and that realy the message of the plant is "Dont over estimate youreself" and "Sometimes one wins when one doesnt fight and just turns ones back and walks away" <------ a symbolic gesture = turning ones back on something that is trying to put the shits up you that lets an enemy know that he has no power and is not even a faint chalenge . I thought that going the way i`d gone and chooseing the strongest ally would be a thorny way and that a true saucerer would never give up . That if i did i had proved that i had made a mistake and that i wasnt as mentaly strong as i thought . <------ another lesson = never be sure of anything . Knowing is knowing and all the rest = belief , faith and trust are cop outs for dumb people .Eventualy i did turn my back and walk away= i beat it ....... BUT ......the cost ........  

I had felt since i was a small child that i was different and had had experiences that i couldnt explain <------ nor did the library books or anyone . , that was part of the reason that i had read the books on the esp shelf in the local library from one end to the other . They had talked about medicine men and the like being loners and described them and how they were chosen / found their vocation and it fitted with the way i was and what had happened to me in my life and the way i was(nt ) brought up . So i thought go the way ...... suck it and see .....

The experiences showed me that a person under the effects has no sense of good , bad , right or wrong and that one could just kill anything in ones path and not bat an eyelid .......  cut people and self up with a chainsaw as if it was makeing sandwiches for a cub scout camping trip .
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Re: Brugmansia
« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2011, 09:52:56 PM »
Wow. We've got a Winer !

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The experiences showed me that a person under the effects has no sense of good , bad , right or wrong and that one could just kill anything in ones path and not bat an eyelid .......  cut people and self up with a chainsaw as if it was makeing sandwiches for a cub scout camping trip .

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« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2011, 01:50:28 AM »
I have taken a decent amount of Dautra and I agree with him 100%. This shit puts you into a dream. If you have never had a nightmare then by all means go eat some Dautra but please understand that there is the risk of a nightmare.

TLS seen the devil, My freind pissed in the corner of his house and chased his mother with a large knife... I lucked out and never had a horrible trip off of these but I was one in a very few that did not. Most I know ended up getting there stomachs pumped with a mandatory 2 week stay in the padded cell.

Just take care... It can show you your darkest fears in the realist of reality! It can make you question the nature of reality itself and thats more dangerous then the hallucinations if you ask me.
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« Reply #35 on: June 10, 2011, 01:33:52 PM »
Datura and other plants which contains atropine/scopolamine are highly dangerous. They arn't halucinogen, they're delirogen.
Delirogen put the subject into a non-conscient psychotic state in which the person don't exist anymore.

A trip with datura looks like a decompensation. If you're lucky, you'll only have a brief psychotic disorder. If you're not lucky, you'll be a psychotic for your whole life, chasing sub-conscient monsters or non-real character of your past life.
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« Reply #36 on: June 10, 2011, 03:29:38 PM »
I find that highly doubtful,

I have seen people eat well over 10x my normal dose and where as it did not turn out very well for them they did survive and managed to live a semi normal life up until his untimely motorcycle accident.

I do wounder often about its residual effects however and although I don't think I would call it psychosis I have seen an excess in drug seeking behavior in those that over did it with Dautra mainly in the way of excessive Cocaine use later down the line. There may be no connection at all however there is also the possibility that due to there similar structure its damaging some part of that pathway making the Cocaine high all that much better allowing the person to, for once, reach that level state again which they normally over shoot into addiction.

Almost everyone I know that has eaten to much Dautra in one sitting has become seriously addicted to Cocaine. I have always been turned away from it due to the dehydration that Cocaine use causes meaning I find it hard to be pleasurable. The side effects from both drugs are just to much for me to handle.
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« Reply #37 on: June 10, 2011, 09:56:48 PM »
Concentration of atropine/scopolamine in organic substrate depend. I've also seen people on Datura. And sometimes they felt nearly-nothing at high dosage, sometimes a small piece of the plant in enough to put 'em in psychotic-land for 20h.

The psychotic state is, actually, connected to the sub-conscient life of the subject. I mean, if the subject is psychologically weak or have a non-revealed psychotic structure, a trip on Datura is enough for a decompensation. He isn't in a pharmapsychosis : The atropine revealed his hidden psychosis.

If the subject have a stimulant addiction or an already pharmapsychosis started, a trip on Datura will be enough for a decompensation. Cocaine or Methamphetamine chronic abusers are weak in front of Atropine.

If the subject is in a neurosis or is in a Normalo-nevrotique state, the atropine could simply starts a Brief psychotic disorder without any consequences. But that's pretty rare.


sources : My books (I'm studying Psychiatry/psychology at the University).
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« Reply #38 on: June 10, 2011, 10:17:07 PM »
Àre you useing a translation program ?

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« Reply #39 on: June 10, 2011, 10:18:01 PM »
All subjects where relatively young at the time of ingestion, in there mid teens, and years before ever taking Cocaine yet all later in life that took high dosages ended up using large amounts of Cocaine. This is possibly just due to other factors such as those willing to use high dosages are more prone to addictive substances but having known all of the at lest 6 subjects since early childhood I can attest to the fact that I find this highly unlikely that they all had latent psychotic symptoms or tendency to become heavy cocaine users later in life.


I must stress that literature on Atropines effects seems very different then the reality of the situation and the only way you could fully understand this is to take it yourself. It is a very strange and unusual drug however its more as though it puts your mind to sleep faster then your body. Its not much different then a Lucid dream at all if not exactly like it.

I fully understood it well before taking it which is perhaps one of the reasons I was able to control the feelings presented to me however those expecting to have Hallucinations similar to LSD may have been highly caught off guard and lead to there incarceration. Of the six, 4 ended up with a mandatory 2 week stay for evaluation at a psychiatric ward while 1 ended up speaking with friends where not there leading his lucky for him, drug savvy family to think he had smoked PCP laced weed and assumed it would pass over in the morning saving him the trip to the ER like the others got. I know little details on the 6th subjects experience but I believe she ended up in the psychiatric ward as well.

You can look around at the studies done on atropine for yourself to see that there is a great likely hood that the delayed neural toxicity it causes may have indeed triggered drug seeking behavior later in life. Its still just my theory that its damage may lead to Cocaine use but it still is a very valid hypothesis given the similarity of the structure. I have always felt that its not the Dopamine system being damaged but it is the acetylcholine system being affected in an adverse way.

Take my ideas however you like but I to have read up on psychology a bit and contrary to what appears to be modern thinking not everyone has some form or another of psychological disorder waiting to happen. The drug just fucks with your brain a little bit and its possible the trauma from dreaming while your wide awake while people around you freak out and shove tubes down your throat to pump your stomach is the cause of the Disorders literature states about Dautra intoxication. TLS said he seen the devil while intoxicated just for no reason, can you imagine what those people in the ER must have been experiencing?
There once were some bees and you took all there stuff!
You pissed off the wasp now enough is enough!!!