Hey Lugh,Great to see you are a member here!
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ChesireCat
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ChesireCat here hecking in... Nice to see so many familiar faces.
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Welcome Chesire hope you enjoy our little nook.
basstabone
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I was never able to view the hive as it went down before I really got into Chemistry, but the one thing that I do like about SM and what I hope to see in this forum is people trying to find new ways to do things. The old ways are good, but obviously there is always room for improvement. A lot of talk is good and necessary when a patent or procedure is first found, but experimentation must eventually follow.
~Bass
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geezmeister
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Geezmeister checking in.
This forum has something about it that feels right from the registration page on. Dare I hope?
I'll even behave myself here. For some reason behaving myself seems to get easier the older I get... but as long as birthdays are good for you, I guess I'll keep having them. They have to be good for you, right? The more of them you have, the longer you live...
Perhaps I can be of some service here, and earn my keep.
This forum has something about it that feels right from the registration page on. Dare I hope?
I'll even behave myself here. For some reason behaving myself seems to get easier the older I get... but as long as birthdays are good for you, I guess I'll keep having them. They have to be good for you, right? The more of them you have, the longer you live...
Perhaps I can be of some service here, and earn my keep.
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bwaha that's awesome, you've convinced me birthdays are good for you, how could I ever disagree with such proof the more you have the longer you live.
Well, welcome! I'm glad the forum gives you hope.
Well, welcome! I'm glad the forum gives you hope.
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Welcome Geez,
If you behave yourself you'll be all alone
Enjoy the forum man good to have you.
If you behave yourself you'll be all alone

Enjoy the forum man good to have you.
Abraxas
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Greetings fellow vespids 
I was a bee since back when Strike used to actually post (albeit rarely), and was truly mortified when the H disappeared as it had becpme like my home
No other forum I have been a member of had the same sense of community and the same spirit of genuine scientific curiosity and knowledge sharing, it really was like an international university with some of the most brilliant minds I had encountered. After it disappeared i felt somewhat lost and joined synthtkl and wd, but they never even came close and both soon vanished, though I see wd is now back (though sadly no longer accepting registrations + my old username no longer works
). So when I found this site the other day I was overjoyed to see a Hive progeny, I've only been here a few minutes but am already liking what I see
Though sadly the numbers are way down compared to that of the bees... nice choice of site name!
Really great to find former bees here!
What's SM?
BTW, I have a few misc. nostalgic threads I saved from H and some of Rh's pdf archive that don't seem to be included in the mirror on erowid, would be happy to upload here if anyone is interested and I can do so anonymousely.
Also, I totally agree with the previous poster - *please* do everything possible to restrict bots/spiders etc. and other unwanted attention from this site! And please get an SSL connection!

I was a bee since back when Strike used to actually post (albeit rarely), and was truly mortified when the H disappeared as it had becpme like my home
No other forum I have been a member of had the same sense of community and the same spirit of genuine scientific curiosity and knowledge sharing, it really was like an international university with some of the most brilliant minds I had encountered. After it disappeared i felt somewhat lost and joined synthtkl and wd, but they never even came close and both soon vanished, though I see wd is now back (though sadly no longer accepting registrations + my old username no longer works
). So when I found this site the other day I was overjoyed to see a Hive progeny, I've only been here a few minutes but am already liking what I see
Though sadly the numbers are way down compared to that of the bees... nice choice of site name!
Really great to find former bees here!What's SM?
BTW, I have a few misc. nostalgic threads I saved from H and some of Rh's pdf archive that don't seem to be included in the mirror on erowid, would be happy to upload here if anyone is interested and I can do so anonymousely.
Also, I totally agree with the previous poster - *please* do everything possible to restrict bots/spiders etc. and other unwanted attention from this site! And please get an SSL connection!
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The SSL connection is a bitch, as the forum software and the free SSL provided by the host does not seem to function well together.
To get it installed to work, etc it is +200 ish like dollars.
Would be happy to see the misc. files from the hive and rhod, PM me and we can talk about anonymous ways about doing so...
Glad you enjoy the site.
To get it installed to work, etc it is +200 ish like dollars.
Would be happy to see the misc. files from the hive and rhod, PM me and we can talk about anonymous ways about doing so...
Glad you enjoy the site.
fnord
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Im a member of WD(i dont post ever/often,lol) and i was a member of the hive as well,nowadays i post at drugs-forum and thenook, moderate at botanicalswap and a few private sites.
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Ah, you've got an interest in plants as well?
fnord
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A pretty strong one in fact! But im more interested in cacti,ive got a decent sized collection of assorted plants and cacti.
i saw your post about inducing ploidy in phalaris gras(i think it was phalaris...)s. Ive been meaning to get around to doing some similar projects with salvia and a few other plants. Theres some rumors that a polyploidy salvia could set seed. 
i saw your post about inducing ploidy in phalaris gras(i think it was phalaris...)s. Ive been meaning to get around to doing some similar projects with salvia and a few other plants. Theres some rumors that a polyploidy salvia could set seed. 
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I really think it could, and I'm dieing to see someone do it.
I really think even if it kills 10 for every 1 plant it makes poly, it will be well worth it because of the increased growth, increased actives, viability, etc!
I really think even if it kills 10 for every 1 plant it makes poly, it will be well worth it because of the increased growth, increased actives, viability, etc!
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i wasn't around in the hive days but i'm a dreamer and a psychonaut
madprossor
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yo, i'm hive crew. my interest was captured by Antibody2's pseudonitrosite work in 2000. i was in love. when the hive went down it was like somebody shot my JFK. i was like, OMFG this sucks! i hopped to the dmt-nexus cause WD had nothing much for me. nothing was quite the same for awhile. i guess ScienceMadness was running continuously the whole time, and absorbed a lot of the purer scientists (too bad Barium never showed up, eh?), while WD absorbed more of the c(r)ooks. SM was very interesting to me- a lot of ideas discussed on the hive were given full write ups (some with pictures!) on SM. meanwhile they discriminate against drug chemists. it's funny 
yeah,,, in the old days there were so *MANY* of us... bees beyond number coming out of the woodwork from all around the world, some of them barely speaking english... "international university" is right, holmes. it really was such an all-encompassing place. with some really clever motherfuckers, (good to see you here lugh.) and so many were happy to post the results of their own hard work and research, such was the profound gratitude they had to the thriving community that had more often than not helped them in their past. the old school bees really let it rip... now it's turned into a tradition. where there once was one hive, there are now a half dozen independent psychedelic forums. and thousands and thousands of copies of the hive archive. believe it or not, i think the hive might be stronger now than it was when you could still log in.
it does seem like there are less of us now, (we did lose a lot of bees), but still we keep the breakthroughs coming! nearly every web-board that i can think of from mycotopia to WD has hosted the announcement and discussion of at least one major breakthrough in technique since the fall of the hive.
i bet if we work at it the vespiary will have one soon enough.
in the old days there was a strong ethic of perfecting these syntheses and sharing them with the community, bringing the info all the way down to a layman's level of comprehension, as a way to win the war. it was like we were all helping catalogue as many viable pathways as possible as fast as possible, for the sake of comrades and posterity.
we're still doing so... cause that's what we do. AFAIK all the old bees who still post are helping keep alive with the hive ethic that "KNOWLEDGE WILL WIN" by letting some secrets flow when needed.
but there is something to be said for no longer publishing complete start-to-end documents like BrightStar's, which start with "go down to your local hippy shop and buy some QP'ers of sassafras oil" and end with "put 100mg in each gelcap and yer rich, bitches!!!"
we're working against a paradox. we all need to information to get the job done. but the better the publicly available information is, the faster the precursors we need disappear.
we tried to take everything to an OTC level in order to beat the restrictions, but obviously that makes chemistry sisyphusian at a certain point. nobody wanted to dig up sassafras roots with a shovel. it was too hard. we yielded only a milliliter or two of safrole...
precursor restrictions seem to mainly hurt the newbees, who have limited resources, no foothold in the game, and no practice in knowing where/how to get things. established bees tend to be able to source any precursor they need as long as there's enough profit flowing to grease the wheels.
thank goddess there are still plenty of cracks in the system, eh?

yeah,,, in the old days there were so *MANY* of us... bees beyond number coming out of the woodwork from all around the world, some of them barely speaking english... "international university" is right, holmes. it really was such an all-encompassing place. with some really clever motherfuckers, (good to see you here lugh.) and so many were happy to post the results of their own hard work and research, such was the profound gratitude they had to the thriving community that had more often than not helped them in their past. the old school bees really let it rip... now it's turned into a tradition. where there once was one hive, there are now a half dozen independent psychedelic forums. and thousands and thousands of copies of the hive archive. believe it or not, i think the hive might be stronger now than it was when you could still log in.
it does seem like there are less of us now, (we did lose a lot of bees), but still we keep the breakthroughs coming! nearly every web-board that i can think of from mycotopia to WD has hosted the announcement and discussion of at least one major breakthrough in technique since the fall of the hive.
i bet if we work at it the vespiary will have one soon enough.in the old days there was a strong ethic of perfecting these syntheses and sharing them with the community, bringing the info all the way down to a layman's level of comprehension, as a way to win the war. it was like we were all helping catalogue as many viable pathways as possible as fast as possible, for the sake of comrades and posterity.
we're still doing so... cause that's what we do. AFAIK all the old bees who still post are helping keep alive with the hive ethic that "KNOWLEDGE WILL WIN" by letting some secrets flow when needed.
but there is something to be said for no longer publishing complete start-to-end documents like BrightStar's, which start with "go down to your local hippy shop and buy some QP'ers of sassafras oil" and end with "put 100mg in each gelcap and yer rich, bitches!!!"
we're working against a paradox. we all need to information to get the job done. but the better the publicly available information is, the faster the precursors we need disappear.
we tried to take everything to an OTC level in order to beat the restrictions, but obviously that makes chemistry sisyphusian at a certain point. nobody wanted to dig up sassafras roots with a shovel. it was too hard. we yielded only a milliliter or two of safrole...
precursor restrictions seem to mainly hurt the newbees, who have limited resources, no foothold in the game, and no practice in knowing where/how to get things. established bees tend to be able to source any precursor they need as long as there's enough profit flowing to grease the wheels.
thank goddess there are still plenty of cracks in the system, eh?
quetzalcoatl
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i'd just like to point out that email verification still isn't required.
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Yes we know. There is some issues that have not been fully understood where some folks do not recieve there verification e-mail and it had to be turned off for a little while in order to allow some invited members to join. We assure you we are working on the problem but I feel alot of it stems from people mail host and there Spam blockers.
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i'd just like to point out that email verification still isn't required.
Doesn't it automatically approve members now?
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I think that was his concern
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ah i read that wrong... Well spam bots can't get in, and it means that it is unnecessary to use a real email address - What problems arise from that?
vs. members not being able to register...
vs. members not being able to register...
