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North Africa Solidarity Thread
« on: February 05, 2011, 02:13:41 PM »
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Helgoland
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Re: North Africa Solidarity Thread
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2011, 04:40:08 AM »
Sure!
Can't wait WW3!
Can't wait WW3!
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Re: North Africa Solidarity Thread
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2011, 05:15:42 AM »
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Re: North Africa Solidarity Thread
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2011, 09:33:05 AM »
Nice one! I'm really happy to see the people taking charge again! They know that their corrupt governments can only stay in charge if the people stay scared and subservient! And they're changing that!
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Re: North Africa Solidarity Thread
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2011, 04:04:17 PM »
What happens in Arab countries now varies greatly from one to
another,there is very little pattern.
I 100% support what happened in Egypt.
Zionists installed,with American blessing,traitor and tyrant who worked against
will of all people under his rule for Israeli interests.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzKP1vJ8uLg
Gadaffy is another story,he might be a bit nut's but he is a good and honest leader.
Situation in Lybia is much more complex. There is developed and cultural North and
backwarded Southern tribes.(Gadaffy said some 10 yrs ago:"I gave them everything,build them everything in the desert,
invested billions in quality of education and healthcare and those savages repay me by slaughtering
sheeps in the bathtub,mutilating woman and killing eachother in the streets for tribal misunderstandings 200yrs old!")
Most (but not all) of the Arabs countries can't exist in democracy.
There are numerous hostile tribes who would kill eachother for trivial reasons if
there is no someone who rules with firm hand.
America brought democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan,making chaos,bombings against civilians of other
religion subtype by terrorists (not as much against US troops as media portrays) are widespread now.
This what you call "terrorism" all over Middle East is just way they behave when there
is no one to prevent that,ergo,it's direct consequence of the democratization!
That and unquestioned support for Israel and it's crimes WILL cost USA it's prosperity,security and freedom.
Only American people can prevent that by removing that sinister element out of power and influence in USA.
Someone who was born and raised solely in democracy can't understand well things I am talking about.
It's weird and sinister system based on the brainwashing more than any other totalitarian regime.
(Notice that USA nagged that commies and nazis are spreading their ideology by war,while they do the same!)
another,there is very little pattern.
I 100% support what happened in Egypt.
Zionists installed,with American blessing,traitor and tyrant who worked against
will of all people under his rule for Israeli interests.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzKP1vJ8uLg
Gadaffy is another story,he might be a bit nut's but he is a good and honest leader.
Situation in Lybia is much more complex. There is developed and cultural North and
backwarded Southern tribes.(Gadaffy said some 10 yrs ago:"I gave them everything,build them everything in the desert,
invested billions in quality of education and healthcare and those savages repay me by slaughtering
sheeps in the bathtub,mutilating woman and killing eachother in the streets for tribal misunderstandings 200yrs old!")
Most (but not all) of the Arabs countries can't exist in democracy.
There are numerous hostile tribes who would kill eachother for trivial reasons if
there is no someone who rules with firm hand.
America brought democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan,making chaos,bombings against civilians of other
religion subtype by terrorists (not as much against US troops as media portrays) are widespread now.
This what you call "terrorism" all over Middle East is just way they behave when there
is no one to prevent that,ergo,it's direct consequence of the democratization!
That and unquestioned support for Israel and it's crimes WILL cost USA it's prosperity,security and freedom.
Only American people can prevent that by removing that sinister element out of power and influence in USA.
Someone who was born and raised solely in democracy can't understand well things I am talking about.
It's weird and sinister system based on the brainwashing more than any other totalitarian regime.
(Notice that USA nagged that commies and nazis are spreading their ideology by war,while they do the same!)
Vesp
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Re: North Africa Solidarity Thread
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2011, 09:11:01 PM »
Perhaps they all need to join together and go the communist route of things?
Clearly whatever is going on is mainly from religious and cultural ideals - and nothing wipes those out as well as communism. Its like the reformatting of societies hard-drive. Than when that clearly flawed system fails, hopefully, they could gain more freedom. Maybe?
Clearly whatever is going on is mainly from religious and cultural ideals - and nothing wipes those out as well as communism. Its like the reformatting of societies hard-drive. Than when that clearly flawed system fails, hopefully, they could gain more freedom. Maybe?
Oerlikon
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Re: North Africa Solidarity Thread
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2011, 01:26:16 AM »
GREAT thinking! By that you just exposed first half of the NWO mechanism for total domination!
Communism brings nothing good and it works exactly like you described,but MUCH more brutal.
EXACTLY that happened to my country.
It brings only misery,death and oppression of the worst kind,destroying thousand years of progress,
culture and indentity and kills more good people than any any pestilence per given time.
Only worst kind of lowlifes who could do nothing out of their lives and up leading communist party.
After it's degenerated system crumbles into itself,you end up being stranger in your own country with all the vital
resources in hands of strangers.Once they fall down and their propaganda stops you literally weake-up one day
from the delirious dream of equality and prosperity they preached in hopless and desperate situation in slave-like position
where only possible choice that might change something and force people to listen is act of extreme low-tech brutality you call terrorism.
Only society that REALLY needs reformatting is US society.
Unlike most of the world I don't hate US and it's people,once you had a great country with great ideals,but now...
Your contry became infected by enemy element and If you don't do something radical to wipe out that tiny group
of people who get rich on misery of others in name of your nation,cowering behind mask of their own people who
they uses as scape goats many times in history when shit hits ceiling,the whole world will turn against you,very soon.
Hitler once said allmost the same thing you did: "Communis and capitalism are not opposed,they are two faces of the same coin!
One is wiping out thousand years of European culture and indentity to replace it with false values of another."
He made big mistake blaming it on all Jews,but they in whole are also hostages of their own fascists,Zionists.
It's vital to learn and know that difference.
Zionists are that infectious element in US society that is causing all the turmoil today.
Communism brings nothing good and it works exactly like you described,but MUCH more brutal.
EXACTLY that happened to my country.
It brings only misery,death and oppression of the worst kind,destroying thousand years of progress,
culture and indentity and kills more good people than any any pestilence per given time.
Only worst kind of lowlifes who could do nothing out of their lives and up leading communist party.
After it's degenerated system crumbles into itself,you end up being stranger in your own country with all the vital
resources in hands of strangers.Once they fall down and their propaganda stops you literally weake-up one day
from the delirious dream of equality and prosperity they preached in hopless and desperate situation in slave-like position
where only possible choice that might change something and force people to listen is act of extreme low-tech brutality you call terrorism.
Only society that REALLY needs reformatting is US society.
Unlike most of the world I don't hate US and it's people,once you had a great country with great ideals,but now...
Your contry became infected by enemy element and If you don't do something radical to wipe out that tiny group
of people who get rich on misery of others in name of your nation,cowering behind mask of their own people who
they uses as scape goats many times in history when shit hits ceiling,the whole world will turn against you,very soon.
Hitler once said allmost the same thing you did: "Communis and capitalism are not opposed,they are two faces of the same coin!
One is wiping out thousand years of European culture and indentity to replace it with false values of another."
He made big mistake blaming it on all Jews,but they in whole are also hostages of their own fascists,Zionists.
It's vital to learn and know that difference.
Zionists are that infectious element in US society that is causing all the turmoil today.
Helgoland
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Re: North Africa Solidarity Thread
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2011, 01:29:11 PM »
YAY people picked up on this!
I almost thought I had found the one place on the internet where people don't like going berserk over political arguments.
Oh and also: Gaddafy a good and honest leader? Right now he's bombing his own people. Bombing them, for crying out loud!
Helgoland
I almost thought I had found the one place on the internet where people don't like going berserk over political arguments.
Oh and also: Gaddafy a good and honest leader? Right now he's bombing his own people. Bombing them, for crying out loud!
Helgoland
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Re: North Africa Solidarity Thread
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2011, 01:49:54 PM »
LoL Oerlikon,
Out of curiosity,do you realise that you type with a very thick accent?
Out of curiosity,do you realise that you type with a very thick accent?
Oerlikon
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Re: North Africa Solidarity Thread
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2011, 02:24:13 PM »
Demonstrations are something tolerated only in democratic countries,I don't find that much suprising.
We get our share of bombing when communis was collapsing. You in US take many things for granted!
Gaddafy is a bit nuts,if you know about his actions before you wouldn't be suprised too.
(Bombed plane than gave family of victims millions of $,ordered 400 whores and handed them out religious course,
dragging around tents,camels and servants and sleeping in park instead in hotel everywhere he goes,dressing sexy woman as elite guard etc.)
his last actions didn't suprised me much but I respect what he did for his county and his brave support of antimiperialism in last few decades.
He wanted to negotiate about many things,but other side just wants violence.
What they wanted is what they get! I have friends in Lybia and I can assure that things you see
on media are (as allways) half-truth and propaganda orchestrated by your government.
For Christ sake,guy who demonized Gaddafi is same numbnut whose wife demonized MDMA!
Every leader (or dictator) is beloved by on part and hated by other part of the same society and most of
of them did many good and many bad thing,but mass media presents them only trough their bad actions.
Goldmember,what do you mean by that!?
Of course I some kind of "accent",I speak 4 languages and understand at least 4 more.
I am not American,said that before,didn't I!
Just trying to give you fresh perspective since I traveled around a world quite a bit and know some of these places.
Someone who has never been in that part of the world can't understand it. Period.
We are not arguing here, I just like to hear other people opinion and understand how different people
see reality.
We get our share of bombing when communis was collapsing. You in US take many things for granted!
Gaddafy is a bit nuts,if you know about his actions before you wouldn't be suprised too.
(Bombed plane than gave family of victims millions of $,ordered 400 whores and handed them out religious course,
dragging around tents,camels and servants and sleeping in park instead in hotel everywhere he goes,dressing sexy woman as elite guard etc.)
his last actions didn't suprised me much but I respect what he did for his county and his brave support of antimiperialism in last few decades.
He wanted to negotiate about many things,but other side just wants violence.
What they wanted is what they get! I have friends in Lybia and I can assure that things you see
on media are (as allways) half-truth and propaganda orchestrated by your government.
For Christ sake,guy who demonized Gaddafi is same numbnut whose wife demonized MDMA!
Every leader (or dictator) is beloved by on part and hated by other part of the same society and most of
of them did many good and many bad thing,but mass media presents them only trough their bad actions.
Goldmember,what do you mean by that!?
Of course I some kind of "accent",I speak 4 languages and understand at least 4 more.
I am not American,said that before,didn't I!
Just trying to give you fresh perspective since I traveled around a world quite a bit and know some of these places.
Someone who has never been in that part of the world can't understand it. Period.
We are not arguing here, I just like to hear other people opinion and understand how different people
see reality.
Goldmember
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Re: North Africa Solidarity Thread
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2011, 08:46:56 AM »
Goldmember,what do you mean by that!?
Not having a dig mate.Not commenting on the discussion at all.
When I read what you write it sounds in my head like what Id sound like if I was putting on an accent speaking english. Does that make any sense?
Ive noticed other English.Second.Language speakers do the same. I suppose i find it funny as most of you guy have such a mastery of the only language I speak(better than myself in most cases) yet you seem to leave out the same connecting words when you type as Id imagine someone with an accent would.
Dont mind me man. I admire people who can understand more than one language,let alone speak and write 4!
Oerlikon
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Re: North Africa Solidarity Thread
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2011, 06:52:10 PM »
No problem at all!
Problem is that many people from US look down on and tease someone who makes
few grammar mistakes while they don't speak any other language.
Now THAT is complete idiocy but it's only minor problem since they have same opinion
on politics,trade,way of living,religion...
Only democracy is a right way!
It's O.K. to live on loans and revolving credit cards!
It's O.K. to call a whole and complex Islam "terrorist" and support those who stole them land,made them into terrorists by systematic genocide and use of WP,cluster bombs etc.
It's O.K. to spent more water on lawn per day than European family uses for all needs a week!
It's O.K. to lay crap on others for death penalty and WMD's but have your own!
It's O.K. to persecute others for minor war crimes but call yours to be "collateral damage" and openly ignore Geneva convention.
It's O.K. to support oppressive regimes when you need them and attack them when you don't.
It's O.K. to declare "war on drugs",attack and bully other countries who don't but prescribe hardest opiates for minor aches
and earn billions on drug trade (usually supporting mentioned oppressive regimes with that money)!
I can go on and on with that sort of double standards,but my point is that not American people
are to blame,but those who brainwash them with mass media!
Do yourself and the whole world a favour and eliminate the parasites,you have not only
constitutional right to do so but moral obligation!
I know it's off topic,but just for Goldmember;
I learned English from US cartoons and movies so that's probably reason for "an accent"!
(I find British English to be archaic and weird! )
You can also notice that my every sentence is started with "I".
I am working on that,but that's result of understanding and translating between my first language and English,
not because I am egomaniac of some sort.
Try to learn other languages and letters,it ain't easy but it's a great thing to know!
Can't really say I can write well all the languages I know (German is very hard!) but can
understand what someone is talking and answer him! That's enough!
Learning Russian in the future will be cool!
Problem is that many people from US look down on and tease someone who makes
few grammar mistakes while they don't speak any other language.
Now THAT is complete idiocy but it's only minor problem since they have same opinion
on politics,trade,way of living,religion...
Only democracy is a right way!
It's O.K. to live on loans and revolving credit cards!
It's O.K. to call a whole and complex Islam "terrorist" and support those who stole them land,made them into terrorists by systematic genocide and use of WP,cluster bombs etc.
It's O.K. to spent more water on lawn per day than European family uses for all needs a week!
It's O.K. to lay crap on others for death penalty and WMD's but have your own!
It's O.K. to persecute others for minor war crimes but call yours to be "collateral damage" and openly ignore Geneva convention.
It's O.K. to support oppressive regimes when you need them and attack them when you don't.
It's O.K. to declare "war on drugs",attack and bully other countries who don't but prescribe hardest opiates for minor aches
and earn billions on drug trade (usually supporting mentioned oppressive regimes with that money)!
I can go on and on with that sort of double standards,but my point is that not American people
are to blame,but those who brainwash them with mass media!
Do yourself and the whole world a favour and eliminate the parasites,you have not only
constitutional right to do so but moral obligation!
I know it's off topic,but just for Goldmember;
I learned English from US cartoons and movies so that's probably reason for "an accent"!
(I find British English to be archaic and weird! )
You can also notice that my every sentence is started with "I".
I am working on that,but that's result of understanding and translating between my first language and English,
not because I am egomaniac of some sort.
Try to learn other languages and letters,it ain't easy but it's a great thing to know!
Can't really say I can write well all the languages I know (German is very hard!) but can
understand what someone is talking and answer him! That's enough!
Learning Russian in the future will be cool!
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