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Re: Member's Chemistry Education
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2011, 08:44:02 AM »
 Salat I was only joking about coz you once said "chemisstry can be a harsh mistress" and I was making a bad pun, whilst the "ghost in the avatar" bit 'alludes' to I would bet money, that to judge you by your 'cover' would be a Big mistake--How many of your "realworld" friends or,for that matter,, of many/any members 'realworld friends' "have a clue" as to this hobby practised here!!!

  And poisioninthestain,,thats REALLY COOL to do that teaching stuff-i dunno who to ,, and I dont care,,coz its "community" teaching,,and you are fighting the "good fight" my man

 Nice one,,Hyppy
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« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2011, 11:06:14 AM »
for me it has become a dangerous obsession, 5 days a week i get between 4 - 2 hours sleep.. i have never had something i could sink my teeth into like this, the only thing, is that in chem there is so much to learn i just dont give up one thing leads to the next and so on..

i have no formal theory chemistry training, self taught.. most of which began 1 month ago. although i have alot of prac experience which has been a pretty interesting adventure interesting and tediously draining



^^ Oh the sleepless nights wasted for more INPUT INPUT INFORMATION! Lovely.

This sunday i'm going to register myself at a school again to start in september. Hopefully that'll work out for once

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« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2011, 01:07:23 PM »
Well when I first started getting into chemistry and herbals I was talking about it avidly.  But after even my daughter's response to the chemistry talk and stuff was "Oh you're setting up a meth lab" I stopped and found these forums instead!  I can talk about it to my adult son and my husband (when he's in a patient mood - my language is way imprecise and Aspies have a problem with that orally) and I have the coolest psychologist.  He's been eager to hear what I'm up to with my microwave experiments - he does his own incense and such so essential oils are of interest.  

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Re: Member's Chemistry Education
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2011, 01:37:36 PM »
B.Sc. Biochemistry
with more applied experience than most M.Sc.'s.
done a lot of research. chem, biochem, and various method development studies.
but my real passion is analysis.. telling you whether or not your product is bunk.  ;D
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« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2011, 08:05:02 AM »
I'm selftaught also.

And just like your other half, salat, I am a spectrumite also, although classically autie, rather than asperger's.

I am not the worlds best chemist by any standards. Pharmacology, toxicology and cognitive neuroscience are my fields, really, as well as botany, and mycology. Been interested since my early pre-teen years. It seems like if anyone IRL has a question of any sort about technology, chemistry, medicine, psychology or above all, anything and everything natural history, they head straight for me. Frequently it isn't 'RTFM' but 'ATLTD' (ask the lovecraftian toad-deity).

I get questions like that on all sorts, anything from the chemistry involved in the etching of PCBs, to the lifecycle of parasitic wasps, and the social habits of meerkats. I even get asked for the odd bit of advice from my doctor from time to time.
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« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2011, 03:31:29 PM »
 hey Salat,, its (truly) nice to know you CAN keep it in the family :o 8) particularly your son sharing similar interests with extractions etc.It must be fun to share with him...
    Over the years I've done countless cannabis extractions, in many ways,,but I find the one I posted,,to be the "best value,,in ALL ways"--simple,cheap,easy,great yields with the product from honey colored to reddish super viscous oil,,once all the solvents are gone-obviously-
         
      however,,adding a little HCL as a catalyst to isomerize the cannabinols/oids into THC(tetra hydra cannabinol) whic wil start to degrade immediately,,but most certainly adds some 'oomph' to your final product--which can be, quite variable,(never in a 'bad' way)
  Its particularly good for "improving" leaf oil,,or 'old' pot, which could use some "oomphing",, PM me if you want ANY 'specifics'

  I imagine your daughter was making a joke? And you've given her  a good rounded "drug education" yes?    Nothing personal, but "loose lips sink ships" :P

 And my "the lovecraftian toad-deity" friend, i ask, with respect,,would your autie/aspie traits be "obvious" to  the 'average person you would encounter in the street?
     becoz the way you come across here makes you sound like the kind of bloke I'd enjoy a few pints with.....
     And so I ask, with much respect, and ignorance....
How does being autie affect you,, the lovecraftian toad-deity in everyday life? Obviously you dont have to answer this,,or you might feel a PM a better way to "learn me"  ;D

  peace love and have fun ;)    Hyppy



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« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2011, 04:04:01 PM »
Tsathoggua that is amazing i cant believe you are self taught, you are so knowledgeable! i wasnt expecting that!

poisoninthestain same to you if you were near me, god that would be the best tutoring in the world!!


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becoz the way you come across here makes you sound like the kind of bloke I'd enjoy a few pints with.....


hyppy my brother, salat is a girl! an extremely hot young busty babe  ;)

in chemistry terms they refer to her as a Mi-Lf


EDIT.. OK hypnos was not refering to salat there.. My bad!
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« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2011, 06:19:17 PM »
Huh? Ey, shake? what do you mean.

I'm no great chemist, like I say. Far from it. Goings on in the nervous system, blood, liver etc though, or rare/unusual diseases, and I am your guy. I would say yes, my autie traits would be obvious, at least, if anybody wasn't either blind or totally ratarsed (or of course, both of the above)

The sensory overload stuff is about the only downside to it, although it does come with wierd ass sleeping habits, my circadian rythm displays all the stability and predictability of a schizophrenic on a ket binge. There are a few things which I just can't stand though. I can't eat veg, the textures, smells and tastes would make me throw it up as soon as it went in, if it ever got to the point of swallowing, or for that matter, past my nose. And I cannot abide the texture of a lot of wooden stuff, wooden kitchen implements, spoons, rolling pins etc, no chance, somebody else can use them, I won't. Same with those AWFUL bloody ice lolly sticks...uggh, goes right through me.

Funny enough, my GF shares those last two, wooden kitchen implements and lolly sticks. Shes classic autie also, not HFA, but at the same time..kanners...hm, not exactly, at least, I am not sure if she would or wouldn't describe herself as such, but definately very pronouncedly autistic (and oh damn does that make her ever the hotter...You just can't beat autistic women as far as relationships go, I myself don't consider relationships with anybody who isn't, it wouldn't be fair on the other party, even if I did find NTs attractive sexually, which I don't. I would be taking advantage of their situation)

I spin round, flap, rock back and forth etc, and for some odd reason people seem to need a thesaurus and/or dictionary, and occasionally at least a moderate grasp of archaic spoken english dialect to understand all but the most simple of conversations/commands (E.g...'double cheeseburger please, no veg')

And of course, would far rather spend my time in a shed full of awful smelling fumes, doing something interesting, than sit on my arse and watch the idiot box or go out shopping, or worse..playing sport (only sports I have ever enjoyed are scuba diving and martial arts)

As for the average person in the street...well thats debatable, I don't tend to have anything to do with the average person in the street, or in fact, the average person anywhere, the AVERAGE human, appears to be in their most natural environment wearing a fleece, and making 'baaaaahhhh' noises, whilst parroting one noxious, vapid, hollow party line or another as one step below the literal word of the almighty. People like that, I wouldn't deign to piss upon if their spleens were ablaze.

Of course there are many good people out there too, those who aren't sheeple, and who have a brain worth interacting with. Sadly though, those I see most often on the street, are little more than animals, no, on second thoughts, they aren't that, no, as animals do not behave the way such vermin does, and when they do act in what humans consider an unsavoury way, it isn't out of glorifying in stupidity and brutality.

So to answer that...maybe, depends who really, plenty of them round here wouldn't know their arse from their elbow, let alone what/who I am, if they were given a map, with lots of pictures, all made out in small words, written in 18-point font.

Aside from the overload stuff, which is downright obnoxious, I tend to hyperfocus on something I get into, once I get studying, or experimenting not much else gets a lookin, i have a very, very good eye for fine detail and systematizing type thought processes, I think, what other people would call a good, albeit unique, and ofttimes rather dark sense of humor.

I have the overload crap nixed on the most part though, thanks to finding the right meds, found out that alpha2 adrenoreceptor agonists work perfectly there, about as well as could be. Doesn't change my sensory sensitivities, I.E bright light (especially those fucking energy-saver bulbs, the govt here is trying to make it impossible to get normal incandescent lightbulbs, the bloody cunts, the light from those is.....its just wrong, my CNS looks at it in a similar way I would look at an arse-hair embedded piece of dog waste, stuck to the bottom of my boots), or wooden spoons and the like, but rather, deals with the unfiltered crap that would otherwise come in and stir up trouble. That isn't a problem really, as I can just avoid the things that I find intolerable or highly unpleasant in a sensory manner.

While I am quick on the uptake, and tend to come up with a solution to a problem, they usually turn out to be solutions other people really didn't expect.

Would I change things if I could, or would I want not to be autistic...fuck no, truthfully, I would rather never die, than be 'cured', as some particularly unpleasant organizations promote as being the only right thing to do (such as autism speaks.....spiteful, lying, propaganda-merchant curebie ratbastard gutter fucks that they are) it would amount to the same thing, more or less, just one with continued vital organ function.

I seem to end up in the company of more auties and aspies than NTs, for some reason, in a manner that seems completely to invert the population demographic disparity, numerically speaking, and the NTs I do know, or socialise with are almost entirely the quirky, odd, or counterculture/subculture types

I don't ever need to socialise, though, I can do so, and in some cases, enjoy it, but need it..no. I have never in my life, actually had the need to interact with other people on a regular basis, my girl is the same way, she only really ever speaks to me, her three kids (all grown, none of them mine) and a couple of well valued close friends, although she is as aloof to me, as to other people, just in a very different, much more intimate and loving way.



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Re: Member's Chemistry Education
« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2011, 07:02:06 PM »
Oh god another light bulb freak (smiling). 

I can related to a lot of what the insect is saying as it relates to my partner.  I'm what they call NQ although I tested more autistic than normal traits on an informal screening.  The thing which makes me not is that many of my symptoms are a result of hearing impairment.

I was just saying to xbee that it feels like living in a foreign country.  He asked what did I mean by that and I said that our values and lifestyle was sufficiently different from the norm to make society feel like a foreign country.

It took a lot of adjusting (ongoing) to be in this relationship.  But the payoffs are huge.  Imagine being free to do whatever you feel like without worrying about what your partner thinks of it?  We go off on our projects that are in different but parallel areas of interest.  ie. he's doing chemistry but I may be doing sex-related craft work or I may be doing chemistry and he may be sex-related crafting or both in the same area at the same time.   One person being into a certain thing can pull the other into it because we have so many different things in progress or ideas to implement.  We interact now and again - relating what we're up to or what problems we're working on.

 Then every once in a while we get together for really intense interactions that last for several days or longer afterwards then we tend to be standoffish for a while. 

What sucks though is that "Life" intervenes - the outside world intrudes and one of us has to go do battle with the dragons at the gate and that tends to cause perturbations in the kingdom.  I used to joke we were the Addams family but on here that has different connotations.

I can't imagine life being any other way and being satisfying - I'm spoiled.

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« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2011, 07:09:55 PM »
i just creamed my pants @ salats post.


Tsathoggua

Now i know what you mean by Autie Aspie!

1 thats 2 heaps 3 cool, 4 i 5 love  6 how 7 your 8 mind 10 works ;)

my nephew is the same he is the life of any of our gatherings his quirkiness we all absolutely love!

ps salat deaf people are always the nicest! you are a catch!

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You just can't beat autistic women as far as relationships go, I myself don't consider relationships with anybody who isn't,

hell yeah where can i find me one of those? is there like an autie rsvp or something? do auty women go for non auty guys?
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« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2011, 07:46:12 PM »
To not go off topic ...... I have no chemistry education . The nearest i´`ve been to it were in chemists dispensarys and the like at three in the morning ........

To Tsathoggua ...... Fuck man ..... that sounds like me 3 .....

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« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2011, 08:04:02 PM »
LOL shake, tsk tsk...

And as for weather our ladies go for NT guys...it really depends on the woman. Some I am sure do, others, I am guessing, are like me, and don't find NTs sexually attractive.

People generalise a lot about us, as in 'oh we will never grow up to be real worthwhile people and do ABC' or oh, he/she will never marry and have kids' etc, along with a whole host of less disgusting, but still misinformed stuff.

Meet one spectrumite...and thats all you have met...one of us.

As for where...I met my last, and my current GF on a forum. In the past I have visited local special needs club for that reason also, but chances are the latter is not going to be looked kindly on, if an NT goes on the pull. Not really the reason d'etre of that sort of organization, as such, generally its only us lot that get past the door :P

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« Reply #32 on: May 06, 2011, 11:35:43 PM »
I belong to a forum called Aspies and their partners.  There are relationships of all sorts there - what typically happens in a Male NT/Female AS is he gets jealous, possessive, or otherwise demanding of her time along with plain just not understanding some basic differences.

Tsog..... is right - if you've met one person with Aspergers you have met a really unique person and all bets are off.  What is helpful about the labels is it can give you ideas of what to ask or help you find out what things are difficult for the Aspie that a normal would never imagine as being difficult.  Stuff like putting the dishes or laundry away can be a major problem for example.  And I would never have thought to inquire about visual thinking until after I read "Thinking in Pictures".

I'm not completely deaf nor do I sign, but without the hearing aids I'm deaf.  Most people don't know I have a problem which makes it hard because I get people getting pissed at me without me knowing what's happening - I appear too normal.

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« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2011, 01:11:55 AM »
Self taught. It's the only way I can learn effectively.

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« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2011, 05:12:59 AM »
I sign actually, Salat, reasonably fluent in ASL.

Although I am completely verbal almost all of the time(indeed, excessively so, some might say.....) and not a yank.
All bets are off is right. Although aspies aren't really my prime type when it comes to relationships. To quote my dear lady, after social interaction and NT-ism came up in conversation 'aspies are just as bad' :D
She never fails to make me laugh, with that unique sense of humor of hers, and I doubt she ever will, with the razor-sharp intellect that she has to back it up with.

I just cannot wait, until I can finally afford a flight to go and see her in meatspace for the first time, I haven't ever connected with someone in the same way I do my girl, although I have had good relationships at times (and some seriously fucking awful ones....for some reason I seem to have pulled more than any man's fair share of psychotic deranged hell-bitches...even my former housemate, who I never had the slightest involvement with in that sense...she is maybe the worst, or at least, right up there neck and neck with some compulsive liar/manipulative cow by the name of mouse, who may well have run off with a kid of mine)

But this girl...she is something truly special, in so many ways. I'm well on my way now to being able to afford the flight too, more than half way. Of course, I need money to live off while I'm there, and to show her a good time, not to mention enough to buy some Pd, Ir, Rh, or something along those lines, and some nice stones, to make a ring to propose with.

She is one of those 'all bets are off' people, more than anyone else I have ever known. A case of 'you think you know a lot about people?...well you don't know shit about this one' :D
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« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2011, 09:01:19 AM »
 Thanx "love craftion toad deity" this threas is SOO cool to read--people being real and honest----
                 Yep, DEFINITELY think you're the kind of guy I'd like to have a few pints with, in a quiet spot, nice day etc

  you're ALL Great

   Love Hyppy
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« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2011, 09:50:05 AM »
All my chemistry knowledge is from reading books, experimenting and browsing over various online forums like these ;) .

However next week is when I can apply for chemistry education, now I just have to do it :)...

Tommorow!

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« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2011, 03:20:01 PM »
congratulations mr bean head! ;)

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« Reply #38 on: May 08, 2011, 02:35:27 AM »
So it would hyppy, I reckon you are right on that score.

As far as the sort of stuff discussed and practised by people here, I am the only one of the people I know in the flesh, that has this particular hobby.

Go for it beanhead.
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« Reply #39 on: May 08, 2011, 08:18:41 AM »
 yeah I was a bit 'surprised' how someone could introduce themselves SO fluently as a  "High functioning Autistic person",, and as as I read your posts,,,which were usually "quirky" but No Shit,,,which appeals to me,,so hence the recent questions I'm MOST grateful for the replies--And you have "tauaght me" More about Auties in a post,than I had known in my life....One Must be apprecietive of that.......
     
      Its a bit like trying to find a sober aboriginal alcoholic,,who is "able to " answer the Question,,"Does getting Drunk,, "affect" you the "same way it does for whites?"
 There's LOTS of alcoholic Aboriginals--but SFA can "answer" that Question...becoz...."They DONT KNOW "how" alcohol 'affects white fellas'---it took me 2 years to find "ONE"...who made it clear to me "they Dont get 'pissed' like we do--it has a "much better effect" for them,, than for 'us

     This is becoz for 40,000 years,,these guys DIDNT HAVE ALCOHOLS in their diet (they had Acacia's instead!) so their "genetics" didnt change/evolve to acommodate this drug, quite strangely--Meet a pissed Koori,, and then meet him when he's sober,,and its like "Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde" as far as the personalities of these people show!!!

 Aside from "having" Border line Personality Disorder,,and a chunk of PTSD thrown in',,my brain is "Usually Mine," Now,,,though I cant say that was, 'Always the case"
 
     Just the way You come across 'here' Swampmon,, is  quite Unique and Informative,,and I am Pleased about that and your membership in several ways...IMO A Good Thing,, as I said,,"I like people who think differently...."  and the fact that they buzz around here been made Wonderfully clear
 We are all lucky to have this forum, Go The Vesp this place can Deinitely can give me "a Buzz"

 thanx for your time fairymonster :D    Hyppymon
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