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The Lone Stranger

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Re: Ideas Man - Man with Ideas
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2011, 07:14:29 PM »
If the people havent got the money they cant buy it .
 
People who sell have the money .

Most people bullshit ....... but one doesnt deal with them anyway . Each person gets watched and slowly tested and only knows what they need to know = nothing except that one can get something now and again but one doesnt produce or deal .   ....if they fuck up they fuck up and dont get anymore / dont get to see bigger quantitys . .There should NEVER be any rush or haveing to sell <--------- make a plan and stick to it . Never be in the position where one must sell something . Rather be poor and sit on it and wait for the good deals than prostitute oneself for money in the short term . <------ Again know oneself . Know ones psychoöogy and dont be greedy . It isnt hollywood and big money fast is an illusion ...... unless one does it the right way . The way i`m saying .It takes its time and anyone tring to rush it gets fucked . Anything other than that is greed and / or stupidity .

A chemist that continualy does buisness or gets a reputation is going to get hit from one side or the other = Gangsters or pigs .

Back to the LSD silo . They made and sold megatons what happened to the money ? One can only spend a certain amount of money before one gets noticed . I knew people who wore realy stinky clothes and dressed like tramps . They made some money and then had a holiday where they spend a lot . = one can only spend / show a certain amount of money without getting BIG trouble . Over that it has to be stashed for later . SO whats the point in doing loads of deals ? One sets onself a goal . Works towards it and then makes a pause .
 
The most dealers / chemists / smuglers have a front to hide behind and to explain where the shekels are comeing from . A public image . Only their customers know what they do ..... sometimes not even their wives ..... and everyone else thinks they are the local builders suplyer or milk man or

No sane person wants to be a profi dealer . One off deals are the best way to go .

I knew people who would do two deals a year or 1 in 2 years or 1 in 5 years . Thats how its done by people who have done it for many years and not got caught . I knew people who one would see once in a while and they would say "in about 6 months" . Then one would see them in 3 and get it or one would see them in a year and get it . One saved money and waited because the price and quality were worth waiting for .

So two different scenes . The profi criminal kamikazi dealer that gets burnt sooner or later OR the people who have done it carefully for many years and not been caught . Before anyone says but one has to find the good ones ..... YES .... BUT ..... they are there . All around us ....... watching and keeping their ears open . I used to do as few deals as posible as few times as posible . After a time i was aproached by people i had known for years who i didnt know dealt ....... the fuckers had even bought from me ....... to see what i sold , for what price , what quality , if i was cool and could keep my mouth closed and so that they got the reüutation that they were small customers  <------ That didnt happen just once .

What does one want out of it and is that realistic ?
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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2011, 07:18:57 PM »
To be clear . I AM NOT HOMOPHOBE ..... i used the words i used dramaticaly to get a point over . I believe and will fight for peoples rights to do whatever they choose as long as they dont hurt others ......... and wash their hands before they toucjh me .......

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« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2011, 07:25:23 PM »
i'm the careful type and that's what you see, people bullshitting.
i cut them loose, they get jealous and look out! here comes the stick up man, or, they dime you, it's a game of chance.
the hard part is the actual distribution that's where the real headaches come from.
your dealing with bottomfeeders any way you cut it.
also, big money deals are risky, people get irrational when certain numbers are in play things get real sketchy to say the least.
then your dealing with guns, countersurveillence, bodygaurds, all that shit.
there is no easy fast buck this is'nt hollywood.
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« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2011, 07:51:02 PM »
Good . True . We are on the same wavelength .

In the wiki thread Vesp did a post with a list of ideas and the pros and cons wich a clever guy had sugested  ........ Thats what every chemist and dealer should do ..... BEFORE ...... they land on death row . ....... and learn "Dont do the crime if you cant do the time" ......

I say what i say out of experience from the sharp end . I`ve been in nick  , been grassed , been set up , had things planted on me , had false evidence given against me , got ripped off , had a loaded and cocked hand gun , machine gun and a rifle stuck in my face , been shot at with a shot gun , been raided at three in the morning by 16 3 meter mentaly retarded pigs , been hit  by the pigs.... and more , had to pay pigs bribes , been kidnapped by gangstas , got stabed , got beaten up , been on the run  ........  so i know what a lot of you dont . I think most of you come from different backgrounds , academic backgrounds and that we complement eachother . You know what i dont and i know what most of you dont ....... what you need to know BEFORE the shit hits the fan .

Makeing it is one thing ...... getting rid of it and keeping safe another .
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« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2011, 07:55:03 PM »
can't win for losing as they say.

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« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2011, 08:07:18 PM »
Dunno what you mean ...... or maybe if i do who ? I definately won . I never got caught doing anything big .... just for personal use .... and then only because someone very near to me had opened their mouths . <------ still my own fault but VERY hard to avoid .. Those things happened over a more than 35 year period . You lot went to school and had jobs . I didnt . I just got stoned and was permanently on holiday . <------twas heart breakin sometimes and often very lonely but i did it and i`m still around to tell the tail ...... warn people ...... and give them advice to try to help them stay out of trouble ....... = I WON .

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« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2011, 08:12:46 PM »
what i mean is if you play a losing game you can't win

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« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2011, 08:26:41 PM »
Often yes ........ whatever side we come from ...... the dealing or the makeing side ....... and  we both want to help people not to fuck up .......... and on the makeing side the most people are liveing in an illusion  ....... and then we see what happens to some VERY intelligent people ...... sorry ......... strike for example ..... a super hero.... ...... the LSD silo .... . and MANY others ...... who made the most stupid and elementry mistakes ...... mistakes that they wouldnt have made if they had sat down and realisticly worked things out made a plan and stuck to it ....... or if they had known people like .............. ME .
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« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2011, 09:00:12 PM »
i like your style of writing
reminds me of....william s. burroughs...the cut-ups
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« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2011, 09:36:31 PM »
LOL...... I do it because i am nearly illiterate and have no idea about ..... punctuation.....and .....garmmar.......  for me grammar an spellin are snoby eliteist  literal faschism....... sometimes its good to emphasie points to ......... especialy when one writes like charles bukowski ....... its also fits with one of my hobbys...... ..................................... = being annoying ......

Anyway guys what happened to gettin slaged offf for ....... the shit parcel story ...... the list of bad ..... DUMB ..... things that i said had happened to me ...........the bit about a clever person  = ME ........... AND ...... the bit about ...... STRIKE .......? ......... LMFAO........

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« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2011, 01:34:07 AM »
the presses are not quiet, also being busted with one would be a defininate level up in the charges. so the whole mission from buying one which would have to be from overseas is just not at all worth the risks, also a 2k one would press crappy tablets. then there is having a rumbler to stir the mixture so you have enough binders/active ingredient

its not really that i want tablets, its that other people like them.
They're not so loud that they can't be run in a house.

Being busted with a press is not a definite level up in the charges. Only a few places have criminalized them completely. Elsewhere, it's up to the limits of the judge's discretion.

Buying presses from overseas is easy, as is getting them through customs without customs having any idea what the fuck is in the box. Think creatively. As jon mentioned, there are domestic vendors who have no problem charging high prices for looking the other way.

And no, the tablets from the unmentioned model number in that price range are not crappy.


can i ask what sort of pressure you think is required to press one?

Press it or press it right?

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« Reply #31 on: May 08, 2011, 02:29:46 AM »
Giuy i dont understand why it must be packed in any way ? That takes extra time and money . Powders and liquids are liked by dealers because they can cut them . All they can do with tablets is shave them or make them more expensive wich people notice . If someone sells a poweder thats cut 10 % and another person sells a powder cut 20 % who notices ?

I am not advocateing cutting things . Quality sells it self . Once a customer knows that he can get something good he will save money and not buy from others . Cultivateing customers makes buisness easyer and the customer more loyal .

That is what is strange about tablets.

The tablet, on the surface, appears like a superior form of distribution for most. Dealers can't cut them, and the dose should be doable for the morons out there who don't research what they take or don't have a scale which can do .01g.

The problem is that tablets have become shit. Very few tablets on the market are pure MDMA in any appreciable quantity. Most are cut with other actives, and those which do have MDMA are generally weak yet overhyped.

The quality of tablets is so poor that I wouldn't take them if they were free, I wouldn't take them if that were the only option, and I would suggest that nobody else take them either.

Those who know how to assay a tablet know enough to know when to disregard that advice.

I have yet to hear of one person being poisoned with PMA from powder purporting to be MDMA.

Tablets, of course, are made high up the chain by OC for extremely wide distribution. Those who can get crystalline MDMA which hasn't gone to the presses are generally going through a different grade of people.

It might be different in Europe where MDMA is all over and cheap, but in the US, one generally has to be well connected to get the pure stuff.

A few months ago they busted a Mexican cartel bringing in four tons of mislabeled piperonal.

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« Reply #32 on: May 10, 2011, 03:30:06 AM »
I have an idea!

Lentils!! those things absorb a shitload of liquid! for personal use, or for a way to get mdma into tablet type form one could soak lentils in mdma/water and then dry then till they are hard again!

cop will bust you and just think you are a hippy


but i think youd just crap out whole lentils, im not sure they would even break down in the digestive system
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« Reply #33 on: May 10, 2011, 03:38:50 AM »
If stuff can soak in it can soak out. If nothing else think "slow release". Now that is a fantastic idea!
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« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2011, 04:24:24 AM »
it soaks it but then it dries though! hell yeah slow release mdma lentils! mad idea!