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smoofzilla

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Hello. About dimethylating a tryptamine.
« on: May 17, 2011, 07:22:12 PM »
can anyone link to some basic tek on that?
im interested to see if I can understand any of this in laymans terms...

psychexplorer

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Re: Hello. About dimethylating a tryptamine.
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2011, 01:03:08 AM »
UTFSE!

If you want a "basic tek" then get some MHRB, acid, base, and nonpolar solvents.

Synthetic DMT is neither basic nor easy. The necessary reagents are not very accessible nor is their safety profile favorable.

You'll have an easier time getting finished DMT from MHRB than you will the tryptamine precursor you're looking to react. As far as basic goes, extraction beats decarboxylation.

Synthetic DMT is not a very good starting point for basic clandestine chemistry, nor would encounters with reagents like LAH, (Zn)/NaBH4, MeI, or EtMgI or solvents like Et2O be appropriate for anyone proceeding in laymans terms. The lay OTC one pot shot doesn't exist for DMT.

DMT from MHRB has been done to death.

http://127.0.0.1/talk/index.php/topic,66.0.html
http://127.0.0.1/talk/index.php/topic,46.0.html
http://127.0.0.1/talk/index.php/topic,47.0.html

https://www.erowid.org/plants/mimosa/mimosa.shtml
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt.shtml

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Re: Hello. About dimethylating a tryptamine.
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2011, 05:28:55 AM »
Man, I've been dealing with you for three motherfucking months and I ain't seen you hit the pipe in front of me yet.

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Re: Hello. About dimethylating a tryptamine.
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2011, 12:58:57 PM »
So what you sayin'?

smoofzilla

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Re: Hello. About dimethylating a tryptamine.
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2011, 02:39:04 PM »
well for a few momehts i had the inclination to think that dimethylation of tryptamine using formadahyde and fumaric acid would be a sitch.
I mean yuo can order 10 tons of tryptamines from china. did you know that?
And I can't see how formaldehyde can be a problem...
but the fumaric acid, now sourcing THAT, I don't know.

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Re: Hello. About dimethylating a tryptamine.
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2011, 03:08:54 PM »
Pictet-spengler condensation precludes use of the eschweiler-clarke methylation. MeI is probably your best bet, although I have heard good things spoken of the trialkyl phosphates, this is regarding toxicity of course. Me2SO4 is best avoided if you don't know what you are doing, as fuck it up with dimethyl sulfate and you are screwed, very very nasty stuff.
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Re: Hello. About dimethylating a tryptamine.
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2011, 03:19:46 PM »
deadly stuff. best avoid it
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Re: Hello. About dimethylating a tryptamine.
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2011, 09:07:14 AM »
By all means, please order 10 tons of tryptamine from China and see what happens.


You can't source fumaric acid? Really?


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Did it ever occur to you that the title of this subforum is NOT "the short questions thread"?


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