end of day 2.. still eaten nothing, still so hungry
Re: Need Support 7 days no food or alcohol
« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2011, 10:32:56 AM »
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Shake
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Re: Need Support 7 days no food or alcohol
« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2011, 06:48:01 PM »
Keep going, you can do it! 
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Re: Need Support 7 days no food or alcohol
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2011, 01:30:13 PM »
End of day 4, I caved , i had beer and some ham today.
and i had a couple beers last night.. other than that i havnt eaten since sunday.
im not "caving" just gonna eat some ham,
muscles feel great, body feels fine, no weakness, i have felt BETTER THAN EVER
if you have fat, fast it off, everything out there is bs IMO.. and i been training for years
and i had a couple beers last night.. other than that i havnt eaten since sunday.
im not "caving" just gonna eat some ham,
muscles feel great, body feels fine, no weakness, i have felt BETTER THAN EVER
if you have fat, fast it off, everything out there is bs IMO.. and i been training for years
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Re: Need Support 7 days no food or alcohol
« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2011, 02:29:07 PM »
My diet is solely based on what tastes good.I admit,I am hedonistic lardass and refuse to talk with
anybody who thinks different on that subject.("Healthy food" and similar crap)
Our ancestors didn't climb to the top of the food chain so I can eat same shit as cow!
When I was a kid my parents tried to force me to eat vegetables by removing all the meat,
sweet and other good stuff for a week.But I am one stubborn SOB and eventually ended up
in hospital because I refused to eat anything for 5 days and when they finally realized they can't break me
I decided to screw with them and prevent them from attempting that again by refusing to eat anything for allmost whole next week.
Since them I really don't have issue with hunger any more! I can feel that when I am hungry but it's only a minor inconvenience
that hurts for a few minutes and than stops,hard to describe but after that I can fast until I am skin and bones.
Huxley was right,things do appear weird an tripy after some time of extreme fasting.
anybody who thinks different on that subject.("Healthy food" and similar crap)
Our ancestors didn't climb to the top of the food chain so I can eat same shit as cow!
When I was a kid my parents tried to force me to eat vegetables by removing all the meat,
sweet and other good stuff for a week.But I am one stubborn SOB and eventually ended up
in hospital because I refused to eat anything for 5 days and when they finally realized they can't break me
I decided to screw with them and prevent them from attempting that again by refusing to eat anything for allmost whole next week.
Since them I really don't have issue with hunger any more! I can feel that when I am hungry but it's only a minor inconvenience
that hurts for a few minutes and than stops,hard to describe but after that I can fast until I am skin and bones.
Huxley was right,things do appear weird an tripy after some time of extreme fasting.
The Lone Stranger
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Re: Need Support 7 days no food or alcohol
« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2011, 05:45:06 PM »
I can only say how i learned ----->
A fast should never be from one moment to another , from 0 - 100 in one . Its better to work up to it by changeing ones diaet . Stop eating hard to digest foods for a day , then 2 days then 3 and so on . Then later after you have gone back to your normal diaet and have balanced out again try a fast for one day . then eat Ok for a week or so then try 2 days and so on . When one stops eating the body stops shiting and the crap thats in the gut gets procesed over and over again . the brown fat around thge esential organs gets taped , the muscles get taped , the bones and teeth get taped for minerals . When a person fasts it shoulkd be not eating but drinking more . drinking soups and things that give you something but arent hard to digest like animal protein / fats and dont have big solid lumps, in them . Another thing to try is just stop eating animal proteins and fryed foods and eat veg and fruit . But again dont rush into it .If a person isnt carefull they get faint spells , feel weak and eventualy hit the deck .
Another thing is that a regualar drinker , dont know if you are , shouldnt try to start to fast and give up the booze at the same time .One might get away with all that on the surface but inside the body pays for it .
Maybe ( probably ) a good way to go is to get a good book about fasting and try a few things but one has to take care that its not a book from a wanker / fashion writer . George oshawa http://www.ohsawamacrobiotics.com/ said "You are what you eat" . He wrote a(?) book about fasting and brown rice diaets wich was where i started and it didnt do me any harm and cleaned my body and head up nicely . <----- i aint recomending everything from him or dissmissing anything ...... all i know about him thats good is macrobiotics .
Generaly in life one should avoid all animal products as they have been shown to be the cause and / or play a big part in VERY many deaths and diseases . Procesed foods and soft drinks to . A good book to read is "The china study" ...... it got slagged off a bit by some people but if one has their eyes open and has a brain ....... like wot yu av ...... then its not hard to see the sense in what it says . Things it backs up with science ....... and a bit of unscientific crap sometimes . If you fancy reading it i can upload it for you . Its BIG but juist reading the conclusions is worth the effort .
Before anyone says what i and the book says is vegetarian / vegan propoganda they should look at the national recomenbdations for diaet in their country . When i was a kid it was said meat every day , then 3 times a week , then lean three times a week and then lean once a week ..... over the years ......now they dont say dont eat meat fish and chickens periods ..... = eggs ..... dont want to fuck their animal industrys up do they ............all they say is fruit and vegetables 5 times a day . From personal experience i can say that after starting to eat less dead animals ones head begins to clear , one can taste and smell better and wounds heal quicker and better . .
Another thing is water . A glass as the first and last thing one intakes in a day . then one twenty minutes before exercise and before eating and again twenty minutes after both of those .
But everything in moderation and not everything at once . Gradualy change a diaet ..... more water , more veg and more fruit and dont eat 4 hours before one goes to bed .
The things that make a person look wrinkled and feel old are eating meat fish and eggs , drinking alk , smokeing tabaco , stress , not sleeping and not exerciseing enough . Bycycles and swimming are cool and work wonders .
If we listen to our bodys they tell us what we need . For example when we need salt it tastes sweet . When we dont need it it tastes yuk salty .
Auuuummmmmmmm.......
Good luck and GOOD that your trying it .
A fast should never be from one moment to another , from 0 - 100 in one . Its better to work up to it by changeing ones diaet . Stop eating hard to digest foods for a day , then 2 days then 3 and so on . Then later after you have gone back to your normal diaet and have balanced out again try a fast for one day . then eat Ok for a week or so then try 2 days and so on . When one stops eating the body stops shiting and the crap thats in the gut gets procesed over and over again . the brown fat around thge esential organs gets taped , the muscles get taped , the bones and teeth get taped for minerals . When a person fasts it shoulkd be not eating but drinking more . drinking soups and things that give you something but arent hard to digest like animal protein / fats and dont have big solid lumps, in them . Another thing to try is just stop eating animal proteins and fryed foods and eat veg and fruit . But again dont rush into it .If a person isnt carefull they get faint spells , feel weak and eventualy hit the deck .
Another thing is that a regualar drinker , dont know if you are , shouldnt try to start to fast and give up the booze at the same time .One might get away with all that on the surface but inside the body pays for it .
Maybe ( probably ) a good way to go is to get a good book about fasting and try a few things but one has to take care that its not a book from a wanker / fashion writer . George oshawa http://www.ohsawamacrobiotics.com/ said "You are what you eat" . He wrote a(?) book about fasting and brown rice diaets wich was where i started and it didnt do me any harm and cleaned my body and head up nicely . <----- i aint recomending everything from him or dissmissing anything ...... all i know about him thats good is macrobiotics .
Generaly in life one should avoid all animal products as they have been shown to be the cause and / or play a big part in VERY many deaths and diseases . Procesed foods and soft drinks to . A good book to read is "The china study" ...... it got slagged off a bit by some people but if one has their eyes open and has a brain ....... like wot yu av ...... then its not hard to see the sense in what it says . Things it backs up with science ....... and a bit of unscientific crap sometimes . If you fancy reading it i can upload it for you . Its BIG but juist reading the conclusions is worth the effort .
Before anyone says what i and the book says is vegetarian / vegan propoganda they should look at the national recomenbdations for diaet in their country . When i was a kid it was said meat every day , then 3 times a week , then lean three times a week and then lean once a week ..... over the years ......now they dont say dont eat meat fish and chickens periods ..... = eggs ..... dont want to fuck their animal industrys up do they ............all they say is fruit and vegetables 5 times a day . From personal experience i can say that after starting to eat less dead animals ones head begins to clear , one can taste and smell better and wounds heal quicker and better . .
Another thing is water . A glass as the first and last thing one intakes in a day . then one twenty minutes before exercise and before eating and again twenty minutes after both of those .
But everything in moderation and not everything at once . Gradualy change a diaet ..... more water , more veg and more fruit and dont eat 4 hours before one goes to bed .
The things that make a person look wrinkled and feel old are eating meat fish and eggs , drinking alk , smokeing tabaco , stress , not sleeping and not exerciseing enough . Bycycles and swimming are cool and work wonders .
If we listen to our bodys they tell us what we need . For example when we need salt it tastes sweet . When we dont need it it tastes yuk salty .
Auuuummmmmmmm.......
Good luck and GOOD that your trying it .
jon
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Re: Need Support 7 days no food or alcohol
« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2011, 08:42:50 PM »
funny i wanted to join peta so i can hang out with naked vegans.
NeilPatrickHarris
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Re: Need Support 7 days no food or alcohol
« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2011, 10:01:47 PM »
funny i wanted to join peta so i can hang out with naked vegans.
they have those there? i always just assumed peta was a bunch of old unmarried, dog-obsessed women
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Re: Need Support 7 days no food or alcohol
« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2011, 11:49:37 PM »
Don't forget the crazy cat ladies and ladies with useless little dogs they use
like personal pleasuring device in combo with peanut butter!
I never understand why would someone in the right mind own a dog
smaller than a cat before I was enlightened by a German porn site!
OK,I can understand some vegetarians for health reasons,but I hate MOST vegans because MOST (not all) of them constantly try to
push their degenerate way of life like a norm with gulit trips,inventing some twisted "ethical reasons".
Nature is cruel,mercy is weakness,weakness is death,don't try to be bigger Chatolic than Pope,get over it!
For me,it's same group of annoying people like those sodomites who do disgusting stuff IN PUBLIC and Jehovah Witnesses.
By those fucktards it's OK to do thigns and live in way that any sane person would recognize as alarm for institualization but
it's wrong to enyoj reasonable things,like tasty food.
"The china study" is quackery and prime example of vegan propaganda. Few logical statements that every child with
elementary school here knows+bunch of insane commentary and manipluation.
Cancer is plague of the modern times,and people who try to push their world views manipulating with fear of something
horrible that we can't yet understand are no better than those who burned witches for plague in middle ages.
Ironically,Nazis were first to discover that smoking actually causes cancer and tried to prove that meat might do the same,
but they failed to see connection and admit that,unlike vegans who present quackery after quackery as "evidence".
Hitler was vegetarian because he was afraid that meat causes cancer and he loved animals more than people,but even when
equal to demigod he didn't forced those believe on others with law,and he was "a liar and monster" while people who actualy
try to impose tose deliefs today are "progressive".
Anyone in my family/community/area who died in non-aggresive manner (being shot by someone,,contagious disease,fell down the well...)
in last hundred years or so,died from cancer! Their diet consisted of theoretically perfect Mediterranean food by vegetarian standards,EVERYTHING homegrown
or fished in environment that NEVER saw use of pesticides,fertilizers,preservatives etc. This part of the world was
untouched nature until some 50 yrs ago.NO MEAT(maybe on Christmass and Easter),NO RAFINED FOOD,seldom milk or eggs.
And yes,they worked physically in one day more than most people from Western world in whole year.
That "healthy food" obsession is not physiological but psychological,extremely Americanized ethnocentric view because some
more reasonable people who see masses of 150kg+ cheeseburger processing machines around are afraid to look
like that in society where you are valued not by brain but by look,so they start to go in other,equally degenerated extremes.
It's also unbeliveably arrogant how they use "hungry 3rd world" as excuse,for example phrases like "size of the field that one meat animal eats can feed many hungry Africans"
while forgetting that fields of "organic" plants they eat can do the same if you use some fertilizers and pesticides.
And no,we are not obligated to feed them,they live in the richest continent in the whole world and our ancestors created everything with their own hands,bu that is another subject...
Yea,I officialy hate people who transformed their diet into relligion!
like personal pleasuring device in combo with peanut butter!
I never understand why would someone in the right mind own a dog
smaller than a cat before I was enlightened by a German porn site!
OK,I can understand some vegetarians for health reasons,but I hate MOST vegans because MOST (not all) of them constantly try to
push their degenerate way of life like a norm with gulit trips,inventing some twisted "ethical reasons".
Nature is cruel,mercy is weakness,weakness is death,don't try to be bigger Chatolic than Pope,get over it!
For me,it's same group of annoying people like those sodomites who do disgusting stuff IN PUBLIC and Jehovah Witnesses.
By those fucktards it's OK to do thigns and live in way that any sane person would recognize as alarm for institualization but
it's wrong to enyoj reasonable things,like tasty food.
"The china study" is quackery and prime example of vegan propaganda. Few logical statements that every child with
elementary school here knows+bunch of insane commentary and manipluation.
Cancer is plague of the modern times,and people who try to push their world views manipulating with fear of something
horrible that we can't yet understand are no better than those who burned witches for plague in middle ages.
Ironically,Nazis were first to discover that smoking actually causes cancer and tried to prove that meat might do the same,
but they failed to see connection and admit that,unlike vegans who present quackery after quackery as "evidence".
Hitler was vegetarian because he was afraid that meat causes cancer and he loved animals more than people,but even when
equal to demigod he didn't forced those believe on others with law,and he was "a liar and monster" while people who actualy
try to impose tose deliefs today are "progressive".
Anyone in my family/community/area who died in non-aggresive manner (being shot by someone,,contagious disease,fell down the well...)
in last hundred years or so,died from cancer! Their diet consisted of theoretically perfect Mediterranean food by vegetarian standards,EVERYTHING homegrown
or fished in environment that NEVER saw use of pesticides,fertilizers,preservatives etc. This part of the world was
untouched nature until some 50 yrs ago.NO MEAT(maybe on Christmass and Easter),NO RAFINED FOOD,seldom milk or eggs.
And yes,they worked physically in one day more than most people from Western world in whole year.
That "healthy food" obsession is not physiological but psychological,extremely Americanized ethnocentric view because some
more reasonable people who see masses of 150kg+ cheeseburger processing machines around are afraid to look
like that in society where you are valued not by brain but by look,so they start to go in other,equally degenerated extremes.
It's also unbeliveably arrogant how they use "hungry 3rd world" as excuse,for example phrases like "size of the field that one meat animal eats can feed many hungry Africans"
while forgetting that fields of "organic" plants they eat can do the same if you use some fertilizers and pesticides.
And no,we are not obligated to feed them,they live in the richest continent in the whole world and our ancestors created everything with their own hands,bu that is another subject...
Yea,I officialy hate people who transformed their diet into relligion!
jon
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Re: Need Support 7 days no food or alcohol
« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2011, 03:37:21 AM »
ever seen a peta protest???
haha, all tits and ass, that's the meat i really care about.
haha, all tits and ass, that's the meat i really care about.
salat
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Re: Need Support 7 days no food or alcohol
« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2011, 05:17:51 AM »
Ya'll need to look at diet as chemistry. The body is a huge chemical processing plant and what you put in it is what you get out.
I'm one of those dreaded nudist vegetarians but for health reasons more than the peta type stuff. My husband introduced me to it and as I started feeling better and losing weight without trying it caught on and became a way of life. I was able to get rid of 3 medications for syndrome x via diet.
We do eat eggs and dairy and occasionally fish because it's hard to get all the protein we need (stress can increase your need for protein about 4 times).
I cook with lots of spices and not a lot of salt and lots of color, brown rice, brown pasta and Indian legumes. I believe food should taste good and we eat for health not looks.
As I've gotten into chemistry I've done a lot of research and found that many of the spices I use (grind em up in a mortar so I get all my agression out) are being researched in medicinal chemistry for various ailments and many of the flavenoids and coloring chemicals in foods are also good for you. I think diet is an individual thing and that depending on your genetics you should eat a different diet. One size fits all don't work.
Also a lot of time taking supplements don't work - vitamins sometimes need other factors in order to be absorbed. The reason there's fat in salad dressing is because it helps the fat soluble vitamins get asorbed. Otherwise you're wasting your time. Apply your chemistry knowledge to your diet and you'll be fine.
And if you really wanted to you could hit up my spice cabinet for a few interesting chemicals.
Cinnamon and nutmeg on oatmeal with whipped cream are just the thing for a good nights sleep.
The down side is it's extremely hard to eat out - stuff like hydrogenated fat makes me sick to my stomach now and everything tastes too salty.
Salat
I'm one of those dreaded nudist vegetarians but for health reasons more than the peta type stuff. My husband introduced me to it and as I started feeling better and losing weight without trying it caught on and became a way of life. I was able to get rid of 3 medications for syndrome x via diet.
We do eat eggs and dairy and occasionally fish because it's hard to get all the protein we need (stress can increase your need for protein about 4 times).
I cook with lots of spices and not a lot of salt and lots of color, brown rice, brown pasta and Indian legumes. I believe food should taste good and we eat for health not looks.
As I've gotten into chemistry I've done a lot of research and found that many of the spices I use (grind em up in a mortar so I get all my agression out) are being researched in medicinal chemistry for various ailments and many of the flavenoids and coloring chemicals in foods are also good for you. I think diet is an individual thing and that depending on your genetics you should eat a different diet. One size fits all don't work.
Also a lot of time taking supplements don't work - vitamins sometimes need other factors in order to be absorbed. The reason there's fat in salad dressing is because it helps the fat soluble vitamins get asorbed. Otherwise you're wasting your time. Apply your chemistry knowledge to your diet and you'll be fine.
And if you really wanted to you could hit up my spice cabinet for a few interesting chemicals.
Cinnamon and nutmeg on oatmeal with whipped cream are just the thing for a good nights sleep.
The down side is it's extremely hard to eat out - stuff like hydrogenated fat makes me sick to my stomach now and everything tastes too salty.
Salat
The Lone Stranger
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Re: Need Support 7 days no food or alcohol
« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2011, 05:08:21 PM »
Jon , NPH and Oerlikon . If you have any facts / science to disprove what i have said and / or the studys mentioned in "The china study" please post them .
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Re: Need Support 7 days no food or alcohol
« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2011, 07:11:43 PM »
Heh, tsathoggua's spice cabinet includes some interesting things...peppery boletus (Chalciporus piperatus) and Amanita muscaria for two.
Of course not everything in there is edible. One would not want the nitromethane/nitroethane or acyl halides in one's breakfast cereal or curry, although the nitroalkanes do smell good enough to eat, almost. Diet wise the toad deity, admittedly, prefers (when not breakfasting on human sacrifices) salty, meaty and rich food. Possibly not good for him. He does eat a lot of fish though, in fact many of his main meals at the moment consist of two (heavily salted, admittedly) slabs of breaded, baked fish.
Of course not everything in there is edible. One would not want the nitromethane/nitroethane or acyl halides in one's breakfast cereal or curry, although the nitroalkanes do smell good enough to eat, almost. Diet wise the toad deity, admittedly, prefers (when not breakfasting on human sacrifices) salty, meaty and rich food. Possibly not good for him. He does eat a lot of fish though, in fact many of his main meals at the moment consist of two (heavily salted, admittedly) slabs of breaded, baked fish.