Author Topic: Need Support 7 days no food or alcohol (Read 219 times)

Shake · « **on:** May 22, 2011, 02:17:20 PM »

Thats right, 1 whole week, 7 days, and i am not going to eat 1 thing.

I have a few kgs to lose since Christmas but more than that i need to regain a part of me that i used to have that told me i am capable of anything..

lately i have had little self control and i want to regain myself, i want to be in charge again.

so, you guys are the only ones who i dont want to let down because on my own i wont be able to do it, and i am not telling many other people..

i really need your support, the more that show support the more i wont want to let down so speak up and it will help alot. I dont care whether you think it is right or wrong im doing it anyway.

Who is with me??

ill give a running commentary in this thread day by day

beanhead · « **Reply #1 on:** May 22, 2011, 05:20:19 PM »

Not eating is hardly a way to achieve self-control

Though I support you fully could you atleast give me a reason as to why you'd abstain from food? You actually ARE in control, rationalize instead of giving in to your desires. Don't be upset if you do give in... We are all humans and we have our flaws. We're habit-forming, it just takes a while to break them!

Be a bit more confident

. A few kilos extra don't matter

want to trade, i'm underweight I could use some

Cheers, keep going strong.

xxxxx · « **Reply #2 on:** May 22, 2011, 07:39:07 PM »

Best of luck with your personal challange, but I don't think fasting for a week is a particularly healthy thing. My dad was at one time in prision as a POW. He was on hunger strike for 47 days along with other prisoners untill their demands were met.

RoidRage · « **Reply #3 on:** May 22, 2011, 07:59:32 PM »

Hey man, not too sure about it being the best thing to do to optimize your goal, but I know how you are haha

Anyway, as you said, it's your choice

Good luck with that!! I'll be following for sure!!

You knows where to find me if you wants to talk about this

jon · « **Reply #4 on:** May 22, 2011, 08:29:51 PM »

you can get in trouble fasting that long i don't know the medicine behind it.
i would consult a doctor
fasting is like this, the first 3 days are hellish intolerable almost, after that the load gets lighter.
i could never make 3 days it is very very hard to do.
it can be good for you it can rid you of stored toxins and do other things but you have to be in condition to do it.

Shake · « **Reply #5 on:** May 22, 2011, 08:46:47 PM »

thanks guys!

i got into work and there is a mushroom pasta dish in the fridge i had to chuck it away lol, damn.. i just have never done it, i think it will be an achievement so i can look back and say see i am capable of a decent level of self control. i am a bit bored with things right now.. i dont know why i want to do this, but what the hell

it is sort of like you build the image of yourself based on how you are and the things you do, and when those things come from just self indulgence and weakness then it eventually becomes that who you are, i need something to build myself back up, something as evidence to myself that i do have some control.. we shall see, i decided im having 100mls mik in my morning coffee that is all..

yeah jon that is my thinking too, i dont think it will hurt me, i think all the drinking and eating crap food as an alternative is probly more damaging. ill play it by ear but i think ill be fine, fat is a pretty efficient energy supply!

palladium that story is amazing! 47 days! im just shooting fror the 7 lol

also, i think there are alot of upsides to fasting, like your body gets a rest and regenerates or some.. i have a book on it ill read it a bit and get back to you

xxxxx · « **Reply #6 on:** May 22, 2011, 08:59:28 PM »

IIRC at the first couple of days your body will just keep metabolism the fat and excess protein in your body. Once thats used up it then begins literaly eating your muscles away.

Sedit · « **Reply #7 on:** May 22, 2011, 09:27:34 PM »

I want to be supportive because I am all for people achieving there proper body image as I feel its a large part of mental health however you can not get there this way.

Whats going to happen is your body will go into starvation mode and your metabolism will shut down. When that takes place it may take some time for your body to realize its getting food meaning any results obtained from fasting will be quickly overcome when you start to eat again since it will just store everything once again instead of maintaining a proper burn.

You might do better in your quest to at the very least eat a light breakfast of cereals or something to prevent your metabolism from crapping out on you.

Vesp · « **Reply #8 on:** May 22, 2011, 10:07:03 PM »

Look into intermittent fasting; eat every other day. Its supposed to be healthy and will also be a good self control thingy like you want. Its pretty hard to do -- or look into caloric restriction.

Shake · « **Reply #9 on:** May 22, 2011, 10:48:09 PM »

yeah i know what you mean.. i know all about the metabolisim and trust me there is alot of mis information out there like how my muscle will just burn away and ill be piss weak with all my fat, this is the type of thing that 50% of the population tell themselfs as excuses to not stay strict to a diet.. when 50% of the population are addicted to food like junkies, it makes all of the common information about it like listening to a heroin addict tell you why he should keep having herion when at the end of the day your fat is there to be used when you are hungry. the idea all the muscle burns away is just not what happens to any crazy extent, do you see big fat muscle less lions in nature when they get hungry?

the 'lemon detox' was and is the same thing and that stips fat off people, but yeah they gain a bit of it back and evetually all of it. but the reason for that is not the metabolisim or anything like that, it is plain and simple they go back to eating shit.

with the metabolisim, it takes 2000 calories of energy to get a person through a day, thyroid slow down will take this number down but it is still up in the thousand of energy deficit, i think its coming from somewhere no matter what.

psychexplorer · « **Reply #10 on:** May 23, 2011, 12:50:38 AM »

If you're looking for diet recipes, then you're in the right place.

On a side note, can anyone here do a good Emeril impression while holding a flask of P2P?

Sedit · « **Reply #11 on:** May 23, 2011, 02:12:17 AM »

Add a little bit of Aluminum to your wounderful floral smelling pot as its cooking on the stove,

Now your gonna want to prepair some fish smell to give it that extra kick so toss that Methylamine in there, the more the better you can't over do it.

As a final ingrediant to give it a little spice and some zest to get this dish really cooking were gonna kick it up a notch with a little Mercury chloride.
BAAMMMM.....

Now thats some good Chile right there

overunity33 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 23, 2011, 04:11:59 AM »

haha they call me the iron chef

Moolybdenum · « **Reply #13 on:** May 23, 2011, 04:23:17 AM »

Hey Shake, nice to meet ya.

Good luck in your doings.

If you start to get sick though, just do what is right. What I am saying is light headed to the point of blacking out/near seizure state.

Not saying this is going to happen, but if it does, just watch for it.

I admire any perso who sets a goal for themselves. Even wanting to do better and then acting on it I love to see. We all should be doing this.

I am in a very strange spot in life currently. . . . . but we'll save for another thread.

Well, the place looks nice fellas/fellaettes. Glad to have found my way over to the reg button finally.

I have posted and mod'd over at the lycaeum for the last 5 years, and have to say, your forum has its benefits shall we say!

Cheers Vesp and crew!

STay strong Shake!

salat · « **Reply #14 on:** May 23, 2011, 04:46:22 AM »

You could try using a meal replacement - When the dog bit off my lip I had to go liquid diet for a while and my doc said you could live on Boost. (it's a chocolate milk protein drink) I keep some handy for when we don't feel like eating a full meal - like he's in the middle of a reaction or something.

Your muscles will be catabolized very quickly if you don't have a source of protein.

We're vegetarians (we also eat fish) and I'm into nutrition - it's how I first got interested in chemistry.

I'm all for you gaining control and you do what you think is right - be sure to drink water with electrolytes if nothing else.

I think the reason many people have trouble controlling diet is that they aren't getting adequate nutrition because nobody really knows what that is. I found I get cravings and if I investigate them I learn that my body is wanting a certain nutrient. I also found out that sweet cravings are a stress response - sweet literally calms down the stress response. (I'm guessing that it mimicks the glucocorticoids enough to get the body to stop producing so much but it's also possible it just stops the body from thinking it's starving.)

Salat

Shake · « **Reply #15 on:** May 23, 2011, 05:15:26 AM »

thanks Moolybdenum glad to have you here with us glad to have you with us too salat, even though u were here before me..

I am pretty hungry, it is the end of the first day and work is almost finished, i havnt had any water yet, i really should go have some.

The only thing i find with this is i get super awake and cant sleep at night when i dont eat enough, the more water i drink the more awake i feel.. strange.. tonight will likely be the hardest part.

DopeBee · « **Reply #16 on:** May 23, 2011, 05:32:41 AM »

I'm on the fence as to whether this can be beneficial. As a kid/teen I didn't eat much but always had a lot of energy. As an adult I began working out and eating a lot and never going much longer than 8 hours without food. The last few years I noticed I was getting lazy and tired and figured it was just because I was aging. Then a few weeks ago I went 24 hours without eating and during my morning jog the next day I felt like an antelope, like I just had all this extra energy, as well as being more alert. I thought I would've had an opposite reaction but I guess going hungry every now and then can actually boost one's "drive". And I may even do it once a month but definitely not for 7 days. Doesn't the brain need a steady supply of nutrients to function properly? That worries me more than muscle atrophy.

jon · « **Reply #17 on:** May 23, 2011, 06:45:32 AM »

yes a 24 hour fast can be benefecial, it's unpleasant but it clears the cobwebs from your mind; i've done that a few times.
the thing about fasting you have to work your way up to it.
i'm not sure what fasting does, i know it's cathartic, it purifies you of toxins.

Shake · « **Reply #18 on:** May 23, 2011, 07:04:18 AM »

hmm last week i pigged out and drank a couple cases of beer, then today - fast.. this afternoon is already so hard i think of every excuse under the sun, i am so tempted to go and get a big feast all i can think about is food.

If it were not for this thread, i would be eating right now... aaahh!

the thing is, on a diet at this point you could still get a healthy meal, but this is bush league

Vesp · « **Reply #19 on:** May 23, 2011, 08:54:34 AM »

Look into Sirt1 gene activation via resveratrol vs fasting => very similar...

I used to be wayy into life extension(ism) and researched this stuff up like crazy... until I realised everyone in it was moronic and believed in the singularity or some BS. Bit discouraging; as if trying to healthy wasn't hard enough.

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