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An Ephidrine Synthesis made Cryptic
« on: May 24, 2011, 05:14:25 AM »
h**p://sbillinghurst.wordpress.com/2010/01/23/hey-bees-come-here/


he has posted this epidrine synthesis, can anyone decipher this?

aluminium phospide, pyruvic acid, propiophenone..

He explains it, it sounds like complete gibberish but the more you read it there more you see what he is geting at.. it is clearly aimed at the experienced

he says things like "i have no peer to peer communications"   Meaning he has no P2P obviosly.. the whole thing is like that, can someone help me decipher this? it might be obvious to one of you guys

actually it is a complete MA synth.. id love to know what hes talking about
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Re: An Ephidrine Synthesis made Cryptic
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2011, 05:56:20 AM »
KEY REAGENT: Propiophenone is used in the synthesis of ephedrine and propiophenone derivatives such as cathinone, and methcathinone. It can also be used in the synthesis of aryl alkenes, such as phenylpropanoids. Propiophenone can be prepared from propionic acid and benzene.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propiophenone
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Re: An Ephidrine Synthesis made Cryptic
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2011, 05:56:41 AM »
Who the fuck cares what this guy says, I have read his non sence rewrites of known methods and if my suspicions are correct he is nothing more then a cracked out meth head known as Jam that use to float around WD inbetween his dozens of times being booted off for stupidity.

This guy aint nothing more then someone who floats the forums, reads teks and trys to report them in a Kewl way.

Fuckem... he aint holden no hidden knowledge.
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Re: An Ephidrine Synthesis made Cryptic
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2011, 07:40:50 AM »
"lachrimator" is bromoacetone or even xylyl bromide?

Where does he mention  pyruvic acid or propiophenone?

Good luck figuring out what hes talking about, he sounds kind of high.  :o

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Re: An Ephidrine Synthesis made Cryptic
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2011, 11:46:07 AM »
Oh shit.....

Al forms a phosphide, the same one thats used in pesticides of the phostox type of thing, really nasty, apparently, those phosphides can in many cases be absorbed through the skin to cause toxicity. Zinc phosphide is also used in these.

It will give off PH3 on hydrolysis, even slowly in moist air (hence it being dumped in animal burrows).

You are going to, I would hazard a guess, want to lead the hot P4 vapour into COLD water to allow it to condense. It will probably do so in little bits, but this can be rewarmed to melt it and allow the formation of a larger single piece, or pieces.

And do change the water for storage, degas it by boiling first, if the original water contains bits of phosphoric acid, I read just recently that white P will react with acid, as well as the more well known process with caustic bases to give off PH3.

A household vase MAY not work too well, then again it may, what is it made from?

Just do this one outside, with your finger on the killswitch, and the rest of you nowhere near the thing!:D
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Re: An Ephidrine Synthesis made Cryptic
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2011, 12:44:28 PM »
I would think so, to a degree.

It would be nice to try this with phosphorus pentoxide, but you aren't going to get that from phosphoric acid, you would have to either burn P (which is obviously not the plan here, since you are trying to MAKE it, but buy it instead)

P2O5 (more properly P4O10) is the dessicant from hell, the heat of solvation will start fires if left in the wrong places, and it makes 98% H2SO4 look like lemon juice, when it comes to sucking water out of things. It will do so to the aforementioned conc. sulfuric, even.
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Re: An Ephidrine Synthesis made Cryptic
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2011, 05:05:49 PM »
Why would anyone bother paying any mind to what that clown Jam posts somewhere, all he seeks is attention  ::)  He's had the Collective subjected to distributed denial of service attacks after being banned for posting sources  >:(  There's an e-book written by real chemists that describes a similar approach starting with chapter three of part three:

h**p://ifile.it/jl3qmo/ebooksclub.org__Alkenes_and_Aromatics.l_44x31847zx3tx82.pdf

and it's rather simple to produce propiophenone from calcium acetate and benzoate using methods similar to:

http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/p2p.paa-ca.html

What's written by members of the Royal Society of Chemistry is rather trustworthy, while what's written by internet trolls is another matter entirely  :P  The preceding parts of the book are rather helpful as far as gaining understanding of organic synthesis  8)
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Re: An Ephidrine Synthesis made Cryptic
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2011, 11:46:20 PM »
Ok ok point made. Thanks guys for the input, i downloaded that book lugh i will be going through it, cheers.

I just was trying to understand the route the crack head was on about. i was looking for propanioc and reagent alternatives to the ones posted here

http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/propionic2ephedrone2ephedrine.html

then i stumbled on that jibberish, i read the whole thing before i even knew that it was supposed to be a method.

Is the route through propiophenone one of the best or do i have to keep digging?

and sedit i need that binaural beat generator program you mentioned, do u know the name of it?
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