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jon

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okay ritalin talwin propoxy loperamide and benzos as a speedball
« on: August 07, 2011, 06:52:53 PM »
up's and downs to doing this the bad part is it's very easy to overdo it it and wind up with dangerously high blood pressure.
taught me a lesson i had a stroke once and i don't need to learn twice.
be real careful doing stimulants and downers and narcotics.
the high is like nodding on opiates and being high on speed at the same time.
i did speedballs with coke and heroin before and that was dangerous too i think the reason why speedballs kill is that you don't notice the adverse effects of all the drugs your on.
speedballs are known killers so be careful doing this shit.
that's my 2 cents

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Re: okay ritalin talwin propoxy loperamide and benzos as a speedball
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2011, 07:44:25 PM »
Ethically I think it's a terrible idea to recommend a ''speed-ball'' of any kind. Good on you for the warning. Sorry you had a stroke. Glad you are okay, hope you made a full recovery.
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Re: okay ritalin talwin propoxy loperamide and benzos as a speedball
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2011, 08:11:15 PM »
i had a stroke 2 years ago i know how dangerous high blood pressure can be.
the problem with speedballs is the opiates anesthetize you to the adverse effects of the stimulants.
one time i did coke and heroin and noticed my pulse running up to 200 a minute then stopping then starting real slow and forceful and running up to that rhythim and stopping this went on for 2 hours i later found out that was ventricular fibrillation
so yeah speedballs feel good, but they can drop you.

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Re: okay ritalin talwin propoxy loperamide and benzos as a speedball
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2011, 09:24:57 PM »
Most people who die from a "speedball" (which is traditionally mainline coke and smack) die from respiratory depression. The opiate's effects last longer than do cocaine's, so the user ends up ODing on the smack.

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Re: okay ritalin talwin propoxy loperamide and benzos as a speedball
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2011, 10:26:53 PM »
i've seen heartattacks too, it can go either way the opiate can allow you to do too much speed the speed can let you do too much opiates.
i always got the worst arythmias doing speedballs.
cocaine can also cause repiratory arrest secondary to seizures, that happened to me not full arrest but the seizures and forgeting to breathe.
it's roulette with your life.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2011, 10:30:01 PM by jon »

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Re: okay ritalin talwin propoxy loperamide and benzos as a speedball
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2011, 06:02:52 PM »
the only flavor of speedball i've ever done is mdxx and opiates.  on larger doses i noticed some really strange reaction in regards to water retention.  i would drink a sports drink (ones that includes electrolytes) and it would just go right through me.  my cheeks got really swollen looking (a possible sign of severe dehydration) and i could tell shit was not going well for me.  no matter what i did i couldn't hydrate my body.  so i took a klonopin and then i was able to hydrate properly again.  that's happened to me twice, once in a mixture of mdma/oxycodone/codeine and another time on a mixture of mda/hydrocodone or perhaps oxycodone i can't remember.  but anyway i was terribly dehydrated yet anything i drink would pass right through, i even ate a little salt but it didn't help.

in the case of mdxx i think that opiates don't enhance the experience whatsoever, in fact they dull the experience.  they're great for the comedown or the day after though.  the only reason i mixed them was because of an existing opiate habit and decided at the last minute to take mdxx those nights.  i try to not mix them but i ended up mixing them in large amounts those 2 times due to not pre-planning and wanting to roll really bad, regardless of what i had taken already.  i've taken mdxx with opiates in small amounts with no problems at all, aside from the opiates dulling the experience a bit like i said.  they rob me from the mdxx-onset-poop that i always look forward to and i never roll like i should.  sure, i'll be rolling and feeling good but it'll never be as good of a roll as it would've been if i didn't take any opiates.

the closest thing to a speedball i've ever done aside from the mdxx mixture is some red bull and percocet, great combo for being out dancing with some nice euphoria.  i'm just not a fan of stimulants in general unless they're empathogens or psychedelics.  what's weird is i was far more productive (and happy) on the right amount of hydrocodone or oxycodone than when i had tried d-amphetamine or meth.  too much and i nod out, but just the right amount puts me in a great mood with energy to get tons of shit done.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2011, 06:04:26 PM by NeilPatrickHarris »

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Re: okay ritalin talwin propoxy loperamide and benzos as a speedball
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2011, 11:20:45 PM »
opiates give you energy because of the 'second wind' phenomena you know runner's high.
when you break through that wall and get the second wind it's nothing but an endorphin release that's why opiates can give you the get up and go.
 

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Re: okay ritalin talwin propoxy loperamide and benzos as a speedball
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2011, 10:42:08 PM »
Overdoing speed-ball sounds like a pleasant suicide!
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Re: okay ritalin talwin propoxy loperamide and benzos as a speedball
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2011, 11:31:05 PM »
yeah did'nt feel a thing when my heart stopped, i just noticed it and fell out.
so i figured i needed more cocaine to get it going again so that's how i remedied the problem.

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Re: okay ritalin talwin propoxy loperamide and benzos as a speedball
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2011, 01:32:04 AM »
I feel like I have to post a safety disclaimer on over 75% of your post.
There once were some bees and you took all there stuff!
You pissed off the wasp now enough is enough!!!

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Re: okay ritalin talwin propoxy loperamide and benzos as a speedball
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2011, 02:48:15 AM »
yeah i did'nt say what i was doing was anywhere near safe, i was just showing people how drugs affect jugdement to the point of:
"oh i'm having a heart attack"
"i'll fix that with more coke"