I apologize if this topic is too pedestrian for this subforum, it just didn't seem to fit anywhere else. Feel free to move it.
So, many of you probably know the necessary background information with GHB, but I'll write a brief summary. GHB is now a Schedule I drug in the US, and is more or less impossible to find. However, it is very easy to produce from GBL, its cyclic derivative. A basified solution is used to reduce it to GHB, which is then salted out. Furthermore, GBL converts to GHB in the body, so some consume it directly. GBL is a List I precursor, but is very easy to source in research chemical circles because people use it directly.
This brings me to my question. Could one prepare GBL for consumption in a way that could convert it to GHB before it ever enters his body? For example, could he make a warm or hot aqueous solution with baking soda, and let the GBL sit in it for a while? If it readily converts in the body, couldn't you mimic those conditions externally? He could even neutralize the pH with orange juice, vitamin C, or citric acid if necessary.
A lot of the effort in GHB synthesis seems to be put into purification and salting. Obviously, that wouldn't be necessary if you could convert the amount of GBL that you wanted in a drinking glass, and then down it.
I only ask because some express concerns about the health profile of GBL in the body before it is converted. Its duration is significantly longer tham GHB's because it takes so long to convert.
I'll attach a few links to information about GHB synthesis (it's really damn simple) if that would give anyone a better idea of what might be possible.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ghb/ghb_faq2.shtml
http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/ghb.html
So, many of you probably know the necessary background information with GHB, but I'll write a brief summary. GHB is now a Schedule I drug in the US, and is more or less impossible to find. However, it is very easy to produce from GBL, its cyclic derivative. A basified solution is used to reduce it to GHB, which is then salted out. Furthermore, GBL converts to GHB in the body, so some consume it directly. GBL is a List I precursor, but is very easy to source in research chemical circles because people use it directly.
This brings me to my question. Could one prepare GBL for consumption in a way that could convert it to GHB before it ever enters his body? For example, could he make a warm or hot aqueous solution with baking soda, and let the GBL sit in it for a while? If it readily converts in the body, couldn't you mimic those conditions externally? He could even neutralize the pH with orange juice, vitamin C, or citric acid if necessary.
A lot of the effort in GHB synthesis seems to be put into purification and salting. Obviously, that wouldn't be necessary if you could convert the amount of GBL that you wanted in a drinking glass, and then down it.
I only ask because some express concerns about the health profile of GBL in the body before it is converted. Its duration is significantly longer tham GHB's because it takes so long to convert.
I'll attach a few links to information about GHB synthesis (it's really damn simple) if that would give anyone a better idea of what might be possible.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ghb/ghb_faq2.shtml
http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/ghb.html
