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Wages of a chemist
« on: December 07, 2011, 09:15:19 PM »
Antibody was going through the sites of some chemical suppliers and stumbled across some job postings. Antibody was APPALLED at the extremely meager wages being offered for fairly specialized jobs. Antibody always lameneted the fact that she didn't pay more attention in school, which pretty much precluded any kind of career in the sciences. But seeing what they get paid, she realizes she is MUCH MUCH better off doing other things, check these job listing out. Why bother with an education if this is all it will get you? These wages are beyond pathetic.

Estheticians (with a six month course) make more than analytical chemists apparently . . . :-\
Job Title: Analytical Chemist
Date Posted: 2011-10-14
Status: Active
Description: Analytical chemists typically use a diverse range of high tech methods to investigate the chemical nature of substances. The aim of such work is to identify and understand the substance and how it behaves under different conditions.
Typical work activities include:
• Analyzing samples from various sources to provide information on compounds or quantities of compounds present;
• Using analytical techniques and instrumentation, such as: o Thin layer chromatography o Melting point o Nuclear magnetic resonance o Optical rotation o Gas chromatography (GC) o High performance liquid chromatography (HPLC) o Mass spectrometry o And various wet chemistry techniques o Elemental analysis
• Interpreting data and adhering to strict guidelines on documentation when recording data
• Reporting scientific results
• Working collaboratively in cross-functional teams
• Being aware of, and keeping up to date with, health and safety issues in all aspects of the work undertaking.

The successful candidate will have a B.Sc. in chemistry and proven problem solving skills combined with a solid knowledge of modern analytical methods.
The candidate will also have experience in modern spectroscopic techniques (NMR, MS, HPLC, IR) and their application to the characterization of small organic molecules.
Strong organizational and communication skills and previous industrial experience are essential.

Compensation: 32,000-34,000 (CDN)



$45-65K for PhD???!! that isn't even enough to pay off the student loans and try to get a mortgage with a $45k salary, jesus! :o
Job Title: Synthetic Chemist
Date Posted: 2011-09-22
Status: Active
Description:______, is a manufacturer of complex organic chemicals for use in biomedical research. We supply research chemicals to bio-analytical, biotechnology, pharmaceutical, and chemical manufacturing companies, as well as to hospitals, universities, and research institutes. Founded in 1982, and located in____, we currently manufacture over 21,000 research chemicals used by scientists in over 55 countries.
Products/and or Services :
Amino Acids, Bioanalytical Standards, Carbohydrates & Oligosaccharides, Excitatory amino acids, Fluorescent reagents, Labeled Compounds, Metabolites, Neurochemicals Nicotine Research Products, Pharmaceuticals, and intermediates, and Reagents for signal transduction research, Sulfhydryl Reagents, plus many more product lines.
Job Title:
We have immediate openings for synthetic organic chemists. The successful candidate will be responsible for performing complex organic syntheses. Position requires either a M.Sc. or a Ph.D in synthetic organic chemistry. Organizational and Communication skills are required.
Those who do not meet these criteria need not apply.

Compensation: 45,000-65,000 (CDN) Based upon Experience


Are these low wages industry standards or is this company just cheap?
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Re: Wages of a chemist
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2011, 09:38:22 PM »
Pretty sure the company is damn cheap...I've got a reputable magazine here listing chemist as a ''great career perspective'' within the 5 next years and listing the average wage at 66K$ (I don't know on what they base that since it depends for how long you've been working but still). This is for Canada by the way.

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Re: Wages of a chemist
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2011, 09:44:08 PM »
Over here you get atleast € 5.833 - € 10.833 as analytic. heck i'd even be glad with 2000e a month

that's considered a lot when the most jobs you start at 1000-1200. We have (almost) free education so at first I was wondering why the fuck you americans need so much money but then it hits me you guys get ripped off on edu
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Re: Wages of a chemist
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2011, 09:50:29 PM »
The US is worse I think but seriously even 66K for a PhD totally sucks!

That is why I changed my major recently from chemistry to Computer Science...

Employees with a Bachelor of Science (BS / BSc), Computer Science (CS) Degree



And that is for a bachelors degree...

And for cost of university...
It  depends on the college you go to and your financial situation ... the government gives out grants, and if you go to a cheap college you can get it almost for free.
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Re: Wages of a chemist
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2011, 10:28:02 PM »
It is true, scientific positions in rich nations require many years of study, offer low wages relative to other positions requiring similar study, and don't even have good job security. There is a lot of unemployment among scientists. In a market with a real shortage, prices go up. This imaginary "shortage" of scientists and mathematicians has been going on as long as I've been alive.  When executives and political leaders bemoan the lack of scientists produced in the West they really mean the lack of scientists willing to work for the wages of a janitor.

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Re: Wages of a chemist
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2011, 10:50:41 PM »
really?

Over here there are even programs to get you into chemistry companies as operators or jobs alike because there is a shortage of scientists.


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Re: Wages of a chemist
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2011, 02:11:42 AM »
Is the US exporting Chemists, I wonder?
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Re: Wages of a chemist
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2011, 02:47:31 AM »
more like importing them, biochemists at least.
look toward the biotech or nanotech sectors for job growth.

if it's money you're interested in, whore yourself out to a cliche professional occupation, and sign your life away
because you'll spend most of it at work.

if you're in it for the love, get a science degree.
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Re: Wages of a chemist
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2011, 06:36:13 AM »
And if you're a felon, like me, forget even trying to find someone to hire you. Damn near impossible. I have 2 science degrees, national and federal pharm licenses and I can't get a job washing dishes.
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Re: Wages of a chemist
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2011, 07:29:00 AM »
ive been studying ochem for many years
and ive secured a position in a "kitchen"
i have no BS degree, and i wash dishes and sweep floors
when im not doing that i am emptying and evaping coldfinger extracts
then researching leads on the web
no cooking right now, although the dude knows i have skills
i guess it helps to know the owner...
starting wage was $400/week, plus a % of profits if improvements were made
in qc or overall $-saving solutions
built a still that saved us $5k/month in solvent management, for example
who ya know gets ya in the door...what ya know makes ya money

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Re: Wages of a chemist
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2011, 08:46:42 AM »
Pics, or it didn't happen!  :P

But seriously, any still improvements would be appreciated. Right now I'm working on a pyrex "bokabob" cold finger fractionating column.
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Re: Wages of a chemist
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2011, 09:54:13 AM »
Soxhlet extraction works great...but the are limited in size
to do large batches requires a custom made
coldfinger system, capable of extracting
a kg of material at a time, over night
recycling solvents inert to copper requires very little imagination
when it comes to building a still
cant say much more, confidential, proprietary stuff, thin line,etc