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Re: Martial Law, Scalar devices, and their potential uses!
« on: December 21, 2011, 04:02:48 PM »
 I think these devices, although WELL developed, are being "saved" for whats on the horizon, lets just pray it STAYS THERE!

A fascinating read, for all levels of comprehension    http://atrueott.wordpress.com/2011/03/28/scalar-weapons-all-you-need-to-know/

In fact, imo, Essential reading....here's a taste, the first 3 paragraphs, of the story of, an amazing phenomena/discovery.....Tesla was THE Man 8)

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1. THE DISCOVERY OF SCALAR WAVES

It all started in the 18th century with a Scotsman named James Clerk Maxwell.(1831-1879). He was a mathematical genius and his work led to the development of quantum physics which later led to Einstein’s Relativity. Maxwell’s equations linked electricity and magnetism and he discovered other waves that were higher than the normal hertzian electromagnetic waves. They are positioned at right angles coming off the electromagnetic wave and are omni-directional, whereas normal hertzian electromagnetic waves are only measureable with normal equipment and travel in a straight line. They are also called gravitic waves because they belong to the gravitational field. (Please see glossary for other names for scalar waves) Maxwell’s electromagnetic spectrum went higher than our 3D physical reality and into hyperspace where the fine indiscernable scalar waves exist. (Maxwell said they flowed in the ether/hyperspace). Scalar waves are so fine that they are only one-hundred-millionth of a square centimeter in width hence finer than X-rays and gamma rays. They can also be manipulated into various types of modes and frequencies. When Maxwell died his work was interpreted by three experts (including Hertz) who set the foundation for physics, and they decided any wave that went beyond what could be measured with an instrument of that time was “mystical” therefore worthless. According to Tom Bearden, standard physics (from then on) as a discipline, contained twenty two errors. Nicola Telsa, (1856 or 1857-1943) a Yugoslavian genius, who became a US citizen in 1891 carried on with Maxwell’s work. Tesla worked for Thomas Edison, who invented direct current, while Telsa himself invented alternating current, but the two men didn’t get along well and parted ways. Tesla started up laboratories on Long Island and in Colorado Springs and learned how to harness scalar waves from one transmitter to another without using any wires. He received partial financial backing from JP Morgan, who owned the new electricity projects, but Morgan wasn’t interested in losing all his electricty business by allowing people to tap into the vacccum of pure energy (hyperspace) to get their own (what is now termed) ‘free-energy’ for no cost. At that time Edison needed a plant ten stories high, taking up an entire city block to supply electricty to one square mile of customers. Tesla indentified what he called ‘Radiant Energy’ or ‘Teleforce’ in 1889. It was discovered during experiments that Tesla did to duplicate what the German Heinrich Hertz had done in 1887, proving the existence of electromagnetic waves. While copying Hertz’s experiments, Tesla experimented with violently abrupt direct current electrical discharges and discovered scalar energy, a new force, in the process. In 1904 Tesla announced he’d completed his work using scalar waves to transmit energy without wires but unfortunately when he tried to get support for it, a setback occurred. He was sued for his Colorado Springs laboratory electrical bill, and his lab was torn down. He was also sued for non payment of a loan from his lawyer and his financial troubles never abated. Tesla continued his work even though he had no money and he died penniless in a NY hotel room in 1943, although Preston Nichols in his book ‘Encounter in the Pleiades’ claims a lookalike street vagrant was cremated in his place and there may be evidence that he was spirited away to the UK.

2. BEAM WEAPONS OF A CENTURY AGO

Even though Tesla couldn’t interest the US govt. in his wire-free scalar energy, the Russians and Germans asked him to work for them, but he turned them down. All was not lost, just two weeks before he ‘died’ he gave all his research to a young American physicist. Tesla’s inventions were dangerous and not only did he discover scalar waves and how to use it to manufacture earthquakes but also he created a ‘Death Ray’, which has been likened to a particle beam weapon. (Particle beam weapons can shoot a laser one thousand miles into space.) After his death in 1943 the FBI was actively involved in suppressing many of Tesla’s documents, including plans for his ‘Death-Ray’ weapon capable of destroying aircraft and his earthquake-inducing machine, deeming it ‘top-secret’ lest it fall into the enemy’s hands. But the Germans had also invented beam weapons and used them during WW2. Captured from them (according to William Cooper) was a weapon that was capable of shattering 4? thick armor at a range of two miles using low aimed, low frequency sound waves. There is also evidence that the Germans had scalar wave technology and they certainly had anti-gravity technology due to a UFO crashing in Germany in 1939. They back-engineered it and by 1940 had built themselves a fleet of UFO’s in eight facilities all over Germany. The Russians, who took many Nazi scientists captive in Soviet occupied Germany in 1946, forced the German scientists to build them their own fleet of UFOs, which they called ‘COSMOSPHERES’ and eventually they had built hundreds. The Nazi scientists also built the Russians scalar transmitters and particle beam weapons. Tesla also told people that he talked frequently to people ‘off planet’, so perhaps this was the source of inspiration for his inventions. Tesla used his scalar waves to create earthquakes and vibrate target buildings to pieces, even those nearby the target. He created the same effect with his massive Tesla coil transmitter and claimed that he was bouncing scalar waves through the earth’s core to the antipodes and back to his transmitter site. A quite small 10kw generator energy supply of just a few horsepower rapidly allowed the build-up by resonance of millions of horsepower in the coil circuits of his ‘magnifying energy transmitter’ device. Sheets of manmade lightning would arc out of the circuit to earth grounding points or from the spherical aerial system. He electrified everything for miles, even people, and would produce fire and flames using scalar ‘potentials’ (scattered, but harnessed particles from hyperpsace), especially to the antipodes (opposing side) of the planet. Tesla claimed his ‘Death Rays’ had a range of hundreds of miles, which were useful against aircraft and he stated that entire cities could be devastated by explosive EM transmissions across intercontinental distances to anywhere on the planet.

According to the book ‘HAARP: The Ultimate Weapon of the Conspiracy’ by Jerry E. Smith, Tesla claimed his transmitter could produce 100 million volts of pressure, with currents up to 1000 amperes which is a power level of 100 billion watts. It could project the energy of a nuclear warhead by radio waves and any location in the world could be vaporised at the speed of light. Some say the Tunguska massive explosion in Siberia (still unexplained, because a meteorite would have left a crater) on June 30 1908 was due to a test of this transmitter striking its antipodes through the earth. There is evidence that Tesla’s weapon was tested once according to Smith. The force of the explosion at Tunguska was estimated to have been 10-15 megatons of TNT, which Oliver Nichelson calculated Tesla’s device could deliver. The blast flattened half a million acres of pine forest and killed two people, along with whole herds of reindeer and other animals. In 1907 and 1908 Tesla wrote about the destructive effects of this machine and he wrote about it again nine years later saying “…When unavoidable, the [transmitter] may be used to destroy property and life”. It’s thought that Tesla may have been trying to break ice at the pole, and may have overshot the target, as Tunguska is on the same great circle line as Shoreham, Long Island where Tesla had his transmitter. If the Tunguska explosion was on the same day as his experiment, Tesla never admitted it publicly. Harry Mason said that a 1938 press report statedTesla’s Death Ray would employ 50 million volts in a new form of ray wave only one-hundred-millionths of a centermetre in diameter and was based on an entirely new principle of physics that could produce a great repelling force. According to Harry Mason, an Australian, who invented another “Death Ray” was found shot through the heart in England in 1937. Tesla claimed that the device could melt any engine, and that if aimed at the moon, would turn a spot on the surface to incandescence. Scalar waves can produce a great repelling force on the atomic nucleus, bypassing the outer electron shells, directly engineering or interferring with the components of the nucleus. Private research in USA shows scalar waves operate in a non-linear time dimension which is hyperspace, at any speed from zero to infinity, as they are not limited to the speed of light.
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Re: Martial Law, Scalar devices, and their potential uses!
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2011, 05:35:46 PM »
Just because Tesla was a genius of his day, doesn't mean he wasn't also totally batshit insane and without a mental regulator on his ideas.

If he was the forerunner in his field and the govm'nt saw plans for death rays and earthquake devices, of course they'd classify it! Has big bro EVER had any measure of common sense?
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« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2011, 02:54:09 PM »
after testla died the fbi came and seized all his work

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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2011, 07:54:38 AM »
Yeah, there are also several volumes dedicated to his "missing" patents and projects.

Still, doesn't mean most of it wasn't completely batshit crazy. One can only imagine what imbecile government agents would think of half of it.

His intellect and intuition was eclipsed only by his enthusiasm and imagination. Which isn't bad, but it's the kind of thing that resulted in him and many other people believing in stuff like "the ether", where energy and spirits resided....
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2011, 04:58:24 AM »
The "aether" he proposed has never been fully disproved and Einstein himself stated one of his biggest mistakes was throwing it out of his equations. If the machine one is using to measure a change is changing with the field you are attempting to measure there is no chance of detection. Its like Einsteins thought experiment with the trains on two tracks moving at the same speed in the same direction. Teslas Grand unification theory really needs further study into what it really is. His Beehive concept of the atom is seeming more and more like the better explanation as we dig deeper and deeper into the atom.

If one is ever discovered it would with ease result in a grand unified theory... our complete lack of a GUT is one of the things that leads me to believe the aether really does exist but is out of our ability to detect it.

Tesla I don't believe was half as crazy as people make him out to be. The whole "I'm talking to aliens" thing was the result of him being the first to utilize radio receivers and detecting radio transmissions from mars. It was not uncommon in that day in age for people to feel there may be advanced life on mars and what exactly would you think if you noticed radio transmission coming from mars? Or turned to the heavens and listened in on Pulsars?
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2011, 11:04:52 PM »
Look at the arguments and temper tantrums thrown here:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/lounge/195674-speed-light-not-constant.html

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« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2011, 12:20:17 PM »
talking about testla look at the haarp project
high frequency active aural researcch program.
it is hypothesized they can trigger earthquakes with this, change weather patterns, mind control etc.

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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2011, 01:11:44 PM »
HAARP is a scalar device...and seriously fuckt up,

      just like this....known as "Morgellans disease" or just "morgellans"...check these out and tell me I'm nuts, even if you do, I dont care, coz I've seen enough of this in the past 10 years, as have other "medicos", alas, whether they choose to accept it/them is another thing altogether!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYMjBenoE7Q&feature=related

                                and after you watch that, disbelieving....

     check out this site...http://www.morgellons-research.org/morgellons/morgellons-microscop1.htm  and look at all the various micrographs :o

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Teslas Grand unification theory really needs further study into what it really is. His Beehive concept of the atom is seeming more and more like the better explanation as we dig deeper and deeper into the atom.

I couldnt agree more 8)
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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2011, 10:33:06 PM »
Holy shit. You brothers are seriously out of touch with reality in some sense.

Fuck me. I thought Tesla was deranged but at least he had the excuse of being on the cutting edge of who knows what at the time.... We have no such excuse....

Does anyone else here actually have degrees in electronics engineering and pharmacology, like I do?

I'd like some pro to pro shop talk, not some endlessly net-regurgitated conspiracy theorist bullshit.
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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2011, 07:56:28 AM »
"Does anyone else here actually have degrees in electronics engineering and pharmacology, like I do?"

Either way that comment makes me want to hurl. ::) 
So you wear these degrees as a badge of honor. Im proud of you also, for you completed your chosen coursework, but are you so proud and/or arrogant to assume this qualifies you as expert in all and everything?
Take a look around bro. Lots of dumb fuckers out there with degrees. ::)


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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2011, 11:55:00 AM »
hey DT you KNOW we are on the "same side" and its half obvious you are "qualified" in several ways,

 BUT,, just as 50 years ago IT "specialists" were quite rare, these days, every wog and his dog has a "degree" in IT

I actually signed on now to post a thread about "why I am interested in clanchem" which I will still try to do....however, the way you have sent this topic with your comments, has opened the way for half that topic to go in here..

I have been participating on this forum for nearly 3 years, and although my knowledge/understanding of chemistry is no where near the level of many of the members here, including your fine self, I know what I CAN achieve/do/make/synthesise that which I WANT, and which in many ways is no more "complex" than diagnosing the problems of, and then repairing, an engine.

Can you "figure out and fix" Your car/lawnmower? I CAN!....do I have a "degree" in mechanics? NO.
 Am I a competent mechanic? YES, VERY, with a lot of experience....
 WHY?
 becoz it "interested" me since I was a kid, and engines became like an "adult jigsaw puzzle" BUT, "understanding WHY the engine worked, or didnt, was a learning curve tempered by time.

Just as running a reaction can often be tweaked using ones "feel"...DOING what we discuss here, is usually a CHOICE, not necessarily made at school, certainly the topics in this forum arent taught at any school I know of ;D

Why do I "bother" to synth things I can buy?

For several reasons, including "becoz I Can" as well as the "pleasure/satisfaction" of creating ones own RC's and knowing "what" you're taking

 DT, I can also say I have been "interested" in chemistry since as far back as I remember!

 Consequently, (depending on a variety of factors) my education/learning/progress has progressed in MANY areas, in fits and starts...

BTW, I guess I have a good decade or so more life experience than your good self....this IS NOT TO SAY I either think or imagine I am a "better" chemist than you, BUT I dont feel I am a LESSER one. I can DO most of the things I wish to...

TBH, I often "wonder" about the reactions I am doing and whether I "truly understand" what is going on...this is not because I disagree with the current science, I just seriously wonder about its "understanding" of whats really going on..

the PHYSICS of chemistry has a few holes in it, theories such as electronegativity, while most likely accurate, are IMO, incomplete...and still somewhat "theoretical" including understanding well enough to "know" what IS happening in an electron cloud, rather than an elegant and sophisticated "guess".

A bit like the speed of light, and our "current" understanding that NOthing can go "faster" than it....We DO NOT "know" this, hence why so much fuckin time and effort has gone into CERN.
  IMO, not necessarily a "bad" thing, but I think too much thought is being focused on a direction where the answers do not lie.

I'm surprised  you, DT,  of all people dis Tesla Technology, firstly, the guy DID discover many things including RADIO and AC power....and next, the Russkys have been working on, and developing his "other" ideas for some time now!

He was THE "scalar wave man" ....why arent the people of america aware of their scalar research projects

To even "go  there" and have a pro on pro talk, I would first have to ask you if you have, say read Bruce Cathies works, on the earths harmonic structure, which is related to Schumann resonance, which is a very measurable "energy field" which hasnt been "tapped" and research into which is/has not been encouraged...

think outside the box enough, and you might become another Steve or Woz, otherwise your probably just another person like me, with strange ideas ;)

  Why do you call the "possibility" Tesla had/has other good or even great, ideas, as "deranged" ?    I am puzzled ???

It has been said, that, "great thinkers often receive violent opposition, from mediocre minds" or words to this effect.

Surely there is knowledge we as a race have yet to embrace, and not because it doesnt work,  but becoz it DOES!
   
people like J.P. Morgan. back in the 1930's freaked to hear this guy, Tesla, was wanting to GIVE the world his IDEAS...and becoz JP couldnt "meter and charge" for it, he wanted no part  of it, and this was what he chose to bankrupt Tesla over...and no-one else would listen to this eccentric yet brilliant man from Eastern Europe. :o

  the Wright brothers most certainly built aeroplanes, just NOT LIKE the "type" of aeroplanes we are familiar with today...progress via lateral thinking has constantly changed air travel/transport and these days composite materials, electronics and rotor design are "more important" than understanding aerodynamics. Yet they they are constantly influencing air transport to this day, and no doubt for many to come.

Laasers came in 1959 but it was some time before they were even considered for the uses they now have, shit the guy who invented them had NO idea what the could/ould be "used for" he'd just been dickin around with light! :o

Man, you probably guessed, you've hit a nerve :P
 
   I'm happy to discuss it, but its a "different way of thinking" and hard enough in conversation, to get someone who doesnt have either knowledge or interest in this area, to "understand" much, let alone trying to do so in letters that dont include sophisticated hypothetical mathematical thinking! And thats not to say I think this these concepts are purely hypothetical, far from it! :

Laters bro stay relaxed 8)

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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2011, 08:47:16 PM »
http://www.infowars.com/presidential-frontrunner-warns-martial-law-being-established-in-america/
Having connections to people in the defense industry might not be enough this time, as it was in the past.

This is bigger than any of us can imagine  ::)
Be prepared for Total War!

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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2011, 09:51:30 PM »
oh no there were 379,000 boots on u.s. soil as of 2009 20,000 is incorrect.
not only that they got chinesse russian and german troops too.

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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2011, 12:06:12 AM »
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"In December 2008, the Washington Post reported on plans to station 20,000 more U.S. troops inside America for purposes of “domestic security” from September 2011 onwards, an expansion of Northcom’s militarization of the country in preparation for potential civil unrest following a total economic collapse or a mass terror attack."
In addition to all troops "Coming home" from foreign affairs.
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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2011, 12:33:18 AM »
and your comin over here in droves too!  Hey jonmon I know how you can get here....join the army :o

I hope that the average soldier will be swayed by the homeground public opinion, as they have been in the past....its quite different shooting at people you know rather than those you dont
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« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2011, 12:43:22 AM »
I have been speaking with a few friends about their service in the army / military... They collectively have explained that the directive was corrupt and that they were getting out in the next year even if it ment being dishonorably removed from service.
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« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2011, 12:52:07 AM »
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I hope that the average soldier will be swayed by the homeground public opinion, as they have been in the past....its quite different shooting at people you know rather than those you dont





and dream on yeah that's exacctly why they will use u.n. troops.
get your guns ready i know i am.

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« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2011, 01:34:51 AM »
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They collectively have explained that the directive was corrupt and that they were getting out in the next year even if it ment being dishonorably removed from service.

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« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2011, 01:50:33 AM »
"Does anyone else here actually have degrees in electronics engineering and pharmacology, like I do?"

Either way that comment makes me want to hurl. ::) 
So you wear these degrees as a badge of honor. Im proud of you also, for you completed your chosen coursework, but are you so proud and/or arrogant to assume this qualifies you as expert in all and everything?
Take a look around bro. Lots of dumb fuckers out there with degrees. ::)

I'm not being arrogant. I'm just saying that while he was a visionary and a genius, he was also a little bit insane. But isn't that pretty common with genius?

I'm not dissing Tesla. He changed human history forever. I have no problem with his contributions, I'm just saying that due to his credibility, even his stupid shit was taken seriously and still is, especially from conspiracy theorists.

I could say the same about the mix of genius/whacko among some members of boards like this also. It just comes with the territory.

Do I wear my degrees as badges of honor? No, it just means I'm more qualified than some people (and less so than others) to weigh in on a certain topic, given that I've demonstrated a minimum level of comprehension & skill in a formal, standardized way.

But of course every armchair genius seems to think that the educated are actually more ignorant than they, so maybe that's where Goldmember fits in?

And yes, Bruce Cathie is largely demented IMO. If he and his acolytes are so confident in his theories, I'd vote to give them a nuke to sit on and push the fire button on the wager that it won't detonate simply because the time & place are wrong. lol I got $1.00 on it!

Fucking lunatic.
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« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2011, 03:31:58 AM »
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I could say the same about the mix of genius/whacko among some members of boards like this also. It just comes with the territory

LMAO! Starting with Uncle Fester ;) and dont you LOVE IT ;D  btw I'm not calling you arrogant, just "calling" your opinions ;)

  Yeah man, I hear you its just I do have "room", for 'wacko' ideas, as I've seen/experienced ideas right out of left field, change our world....as I said, lasers come immediately to mind..

I dont "disagree" with much conventional thinking, its just that its "conventional" and consequently usually not even prepared to "consider" the 'other' possibilities..... a few recent examples, like, "room temp super conductivity" and advances in understanding our own (human) neurophysiology and I think "cold fusion" may have already been developed...

sadly if its "free" there's a fair chance we wont be getting it in a hurry!

When I was a TEENAGER, enkephalins had yet to be discovered, opiate addiction was NOT understood, there were NO "cellular services" and not too much earlier, "pollution" did not include the electromagnetic spectra. 

 and before MRI's PROVED differently, when I was paralyzed, AND in great pain, the "so called" trained professional neurologists TOLD me "your nerves dont work, you CAN'T BE feeling ANYTHING"...

well weren't they in for a surprise when my brain was lit up like a fuckin christmas tree, and my nerves STILL were not working!!! (all good now ;D)

I've been called "whacko" and "cracked" MANY times, but you know the old saying, "he who laughs last, laughs best" ;D

But the saying "if it works dont fix it" has never been my favorite!

Shit, nothing would have been "developed" were it not for those who either didnt hear it, or didnt LISTEN!

and a Happy new year all, It could be pretty interesting, to say the least :o....I'd like to think otherwise, but I dont.

And Tesla was "largely demented" as far as Edison was concerned ::)

Cheers f1 ???

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