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myCH3

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4-aco-det
« on: January 04, 2012, 06:16:46 PM »
Age: 28

Weight: 140lb

Chemical: 4-aco-det

Dosage of chemical: 23mg and 15mg but the scale could have been off as the second trial was far more intense. 
of the intensity

Duration: 4hr

Intensity: +3, +4

Source: Chemical Company

Experience: 2 trials one week apart. 

23mg  +3
I found this to be amazing, its a powerful psychedelic that leaves as quickly as it comes on.  In my opinion starts to
come on almost like a roll, noticeble feeling at 15 minutes in.  Soon after tho this feeling evolves into something far rich
richer almost like the feeling of pure energy flowing all around my body and lighting up my "chackra areas" at almost
an hour in ego loss, lyeing down with my eyes closed there were really entrancing closed eyed visuals, lots of tunnels. 
During this peek laying down I felt as if I was falling through warm water really slowly forever, this was all through
beutiful dark greens, purples, blues, and pinks.  At about two hours in some friends come over and i'm starting to come
down, the body feelings still great, theres still some balance issues but not to bad.  The visuals have steadily decreased
and at about 3 hours in are mostly nonexhistant other than a little heightening. Went out and had dinner at five none of
my friends who hadnt been there including my girlfriend could tell I had been tripping.  Slept great that night and had
a nice positive sense of well being for a day or two later. 

15mg +4 expeirence, I had also take 210mg of codiene about 3 hours earlier
Alright this one was ten time more intense than the prior one, so I may have weighed wrong or something I've checked my
scale and its accurate so I'm at a loss to explain the huge jump in potency at a lesser amount.
This is about a week later and my girlfriends over and asks me if I'd like to trip, and I'm blessed that I have a partner
to share in these expeirences with cause we blend quite well together even tho she is still a little new to the whole
tripping thing and this was her most intense experience.  Well we both had a light dinner and cheersed our prospective
pills, then proceeded to bed with some music playing, something on pandora but for the life of me I cant remember any of
what was played. We start makeing out and begin fooling around, and probably thirty minutes in we've both commented on
how high we feel, a few times and that the other felt great.  probably an hour in were still haveing sex and it feels as
tho our consciousness compleatly merged I could feel everything she could feel and she could feel everything I could. 
This led to this feedback of the most crazy eurphoria i've ever experienced, but as the collective we felt better and
better everything else was stripped away and eventually it just felt like I was everything maybe not still sure how to
put it into words.  Probably about 3and half hours in I kinda come around enough to figure out that I had lost the condom
this hits me like a ton of bricks and all of reality just slams into me.  I've smoked alot of dmt and am used to the
journey between ego and not sure of the right word "not ego" perhaps? but never anything that took me from so high I
didnt have a body to omg fuck the condom broke scary.  Well I think my jolt scared her a bit because she freezed up and
went rigid for probabaly five minutes but it felt like an eternity, but eventually she managed to say "please hold me I
dont know were I am".  I did that for about twenty minutes freaking out until she came down enough to tell me we "both
desperately needed showers" After the showers we had some leftover tai food and I smoke some weed and talked but were
both pretty much completely down.  probably the best sex i've ever had that I dont actually remember alot of, more
like a shit ton of blending and swirling colors and godly good feelings.

Thanks for giving me a place to post my ramblings guys, wasnt really sure who else I could tell this too. maybe this will inspire
some of you guys to try what is at the moment my favorite tryptamine,  I'm trying to figure out the perfect dose for a show as
I feel its duration is perfect cause you can get the dose and be sober and able to drive by the time its over.  which speaking of
anyone know any other good short psychedelics



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Re: 4-aco-det
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2012, 07:47:47 AM »
thanx for a cool bio matey, and welcome to THE vespiary...the one and only!

"Probably about 3and half hours in I kinda come around enough to figure out that I had lost the condom
this hits me like a ton of bricks and all of reality just slams into me.  I've smoked alot of dmt and am used to the
journey between ego and not sure of the right word "not ego" perhaps? but never anything that took me from so high I
didnt have a body to omg fuck the condom broke scary. "

lol, classic stuff...a "fuckt up freakout" Its good to hear that you both dealt with it ok, but those 5mins as you say, can seem like an eternity! (hey, btw there's always the "morning after pill" if its pregnancy thats your prime concern)

happy dreams mymethyl

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Re: 4-aco-det
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2012, 01:29:13 AM »
Yeah thank god for that little pill. lol thanks for the welcome I'm glad to be a part of this site maybe ill be able to contribute.

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Re: 4-aco-det
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2012, 02:55:21 AM »
i've heard wild ranges in intensity of trip reports for 4-aco-dmt.  one thing that's true with psychedelics in general is even at the same dose, the intensity can vary greatly depending on mindstate, surroundings, activities, etc.  but after reading so many trip reports from people who have taken 4-aco-dmt at different dosages and many times read where a lighter dose hit them like a ton of bricks in comparison, it goes to show just how some of these tryptamines can vary in potency depending upon mindstate and other typical psychedelic-related factors.  not to say your scale may not be off or some other anomaly happened, just adding some extra input.  great read, thanks!

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Re: 4-aco-det
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2012, 11:45:27 AM »
thanks for sharing.
I agree with NPH.
One of the main reasons we have all been blessed with the teachings in PIHKAL, is because Shulgin realized the absolute power of the mind over body.
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Re: 4-aco-det
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2012, 06:49:13 AM »
^This was about 4-aco-det, not 4-aco-dmt which in my opinion is pretty indistinguishable from mushrooms.  Shulgin put forth the notion that the 4-aco substitutions were metabolized in-vitro into the 4-ho form.  In my experience this seems highly likely, I've tried 4-aco-dmt and its identical to 4-ho-dmt(Psilocin).  I've also tried 4-aco-dipt which me and my friends call the roller coaster as it has 2 distinct 3 hour peaks during the trip with about an hour of a lull of almost sobriety in the middle, really interesting I find it really fun give it a shot if you ever get the chance.  But it was hypothesized in the  BandG on bluelight light this effect is because 4-aco-dipt has its own effects and it is metabolized slow enough to be felt noticeably before being metabolized into the 4-hydroxy analogue which is also active.  I've tried 4-ho-dipt and it is nearly identical to the second peak its 4-aco counter part.  My ramblings aside and getting around to the point but soon I plan on having my hands on some 4-ho-det and this could seal the deal for me on this.  Probably should try the mipt form also tho :)