I am tempted to ask for this thread to be put in the trash and taken out.
Unless we are talking about people that have gone to jail, rumors about such, or info on avoiding jail - I would greatly prefer we not continue to have these shit-fights.

I dont know what the cost of an average one is, but from what I see it is definitely not cheap.

 FWIW, I think this thread has value....If only to help folks become more 'aware' of their behaviour,  both positive/helpful or negative/unhelpful, and modify the same to the most benign level as possible.

 Personally I dont mind tsogguatha's 1000 word raves...imo to be able to "type as you talk" is quite a skill! And toady's eloquence when describing his sentiments towards LE is unparalleled, and pretty funny imo 

quit the sperg rage hissy fit, and return to making on-topic posts.

I'm not taking sides here, but if anyone went "off topic" here, it wasnt tsog... although I know how easy is to go "off topic" particularly in the Den the title of this thread is not,
  "The occurence of jail time in the autie/aspy community",   in fact I am puzzled as to why ER chose to post that story...as its clearly not related to the topic,

i was once caught with some JWH018 (while still legal), they try to make me 'admit' that it was speed, and in the end, it says in my record i've been arrested for marijuana possession.
they confiscated my laptop under the pretext that it might have been stolen, i gave them the papers, took them 3 months to give it back, and i still have "theft" in my record as well.

IME this level of ignorance,stupidity and arrogance is par for the course re; LE, in most if not all countries, the masses having been thoroughly brainwashed, by the propaganda of The Powers that Be, and as long as "it" doesnt affect them, then why should they care?
  (lots of reasons, actually, BUT they don't, and when they do, it will be well and truly too late to complain, let alone do anything about!)

  These lawmongers from the dark ages, who little original though when 'enforcing' the law...its seems that "filling the book" (charging people) is more important than whether the person is actually guilty!
  And the "public" bang on about
  And if by chance, they are caught "out of line", the "I was just/only following orders, its SOP" etc seems to justify most of these actions.
  Last year, down here, the police charged more people with pathetic 'misdemeanor' type offences ( Jay walking, littering etc  not including drink driving) as opposed to genuinely 'criminal' behavior such as theft, assault, murder, rape and the like!
 
Why? Because it is "easier" and "fills the charge book" just as well, and for the majority of peeps, this is acceptable!

   Look at the changes occurring in the US, i.e. the extraordinarily named Patriot Act for one... for the moment the general public seem to believe that this law (and others, e.g SOPA and PIPA to name two recent amendments to the CONSTITUTION) as being in their best interests!!!
  It appears that the apathy displayed by so many folks in the "West", stemming from a few decades of "comfortable living" to the pointt they have become inured to the skulldugery of their own government, is, imo, truly fuckin scary!

Why was it stupid? Nobody is going to have their door kicked in because of a random NYT article. Get real.

  Actually, it was established back in 2009 when the founders of Pirate Bay were taken to court, that a person in the UK can be deported to the US for trial IF their 'activities' have broken US laws

  Although this precedent appears to be "case specific" in that the US DPP has to apply to the UK courts for permission to do so, in each instance;
   with the conspiracy laws the way they are, someone could potentially find themselves e.g. facing charges for an "alleged" offence of "conspiring to pervert the cause of justice"....
   and again its is a "guilty until proven innocent" type of charge, where the DPP has only to provide "circumstantial evidence" against the accused, who then must spend much time and energy refuting the same!

   Ok, maybe at the end of the day/year/decade one MIGHT BE lucky enough to "beat" the charges
(while more than likely, having spent some time on remand, while maintaining the "right to remain silent"), but if you have been unlucky enough to have trodden this path,  it is understandable that the trauma caused by being wrongly accused ends up suffering PTSD from the mindfuck of being treated/controlled by LE goons!

Anyway, at the end of the day, it IS important that we think about the ramifications of posting ANY material which has the slightest possibilty of negatively impacting either other members, or the forum itself...and refrain from doing so.

after all
we is all friends here, yo?

f1

ps...here's a few perfect examples of what goes down in the US...

cop-arrested-for-killing-unarmed-man-and-family-dog

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k3rEbx9-A4

cops bash man who has just found his son dead

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ_pJFPyt04&feature=related

what about this? farkin hell "ipso custodes custodiet?" aka "who guards the guards?" does anyone know what happened?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah0WoUDLiEg&feature=related

Much appreciated no1uno.

And would you bloody believe it. Pigs have gone and done it again. Came armed with a warrant, which is dodgy as hell to say the least, to look for, apparently, the glassware which they knew already from the oh...7-8 malicious raids that never once amounted to jack shit, was here. Not illegal to have glassware here.

And the wierdest thing...although it was quite certainly seen, along with most of his chemicals..they were all ignored. With the exception of a bare handful of chemicals. Computers, phones, etc., none were touched,

Whatever they were really raiding the place for...it was not lab equipment. Very few chemicals have been seized, and most of those that were, were ridiculous, a bottle of glycerine for instance, kept for remediation of opioid-related GI tract troubles. Can't check the identity of everything that was taken though, as my lawyer told me that the cops admitted taking items not named on the seizure report form that accompanies the warrant if anything gets taken.

Fucking morons...they TRASHED the place, to the extent that toady has taken photos for evidence, only his room in the house, but ripped insulation off the walls, emptied the contents of his bin out all over his dressing robe and coats which where all taken off the hooks on the back of his bedroom door, and piled up next to the bin for the purpose.

Had to take used needles, which were uncapped (which toady never does, he always caps them immediately after use) from out of that lot.

And as for the chemicals examined, but not touched...sheesh. Toady could smack those cops upside the arse with a rusty circular saw, twist, and rip out, for leaving his LAH out of the argon filled container the container of LAH gets stored in, right next to the 98% H2SO4 and THF, along with a host of other flammable solvents. Of all the places to put LAH too...under the sink is not one of them.

Toady was held overnight, without anywhere near the proper dose of his meds. He was ok the day he got nicked, thanks to having the foresight to take quite a few oxcontins and oxynorm capsules (oxy IR), benzos and chlormethiazole, but they denied him access to a doctor the second day (had seen one on intake to the pig shop), after he started going into withdrawal. Excuse was that toady 'might be made drowsy and unfit for interview' if he was allowed his meds. Kicked up a fuss about it for quite some time, eventually got something, only to find out it was a third of his daily dose of pregabalin, and bugger all else.

One doesn't have to be all that awake, to repeat 'no comment' for an hour or so, and tell the good officer to 'go and fuck himself, catch syphilis from a gutter whore and die miserable in a shallow grave'

They are already trotting out the tired, and useless allegation that traces of some sort of explosive-related substance were found somewhere or other. Probably a nitro group on one of his works, the pigs don't seem to have very able chemists, or analytical people. Apparently some analytical data was sent to the US, for interpretation. Says it all, does it not? looks like the pigs here either don't have a GC/MS, don't know how to read one, or can't tell fragmentation in the GC oven of a molecule containing an R-NO2 group leading to pyrolysis derived artifacts from HEs/primers etc.

He is pretty certain the raid was actually triggered by asking for something in a DIY store. Since they didn't have any, and since Tsathoggua bought nothing, on his card or otherwise, makes him wonder how the pigs IDed him when the DIY store whoever grassed him up. At least, how they could formally link the two.

Nothing illegal was taken. Although several legal psychotropics and nootropics have been. Sure the filth will be just thrilled about having to hand those back.

You may be right. But what if you're wrong?

This brings additional heat on an innocent person, there is no doubt about it.

If you know how cops tick you will know they will likely investigate something like this. To them it looks like everyone's "covering for Toady" to try to undo the damage of the unveiling of his identity. It certainly looks like this kid could actually be him, there's enough details in common to warrant investigation.

There is no reason or excuse to be posting names of anyone on a board like this. Cops kick down the wrong door and shoot toddlers in the face every day in the godforsaken country known as the land of the free. They enjoy killing. Not worth risking even incrementally higher chances of these fucks storming some innocent person's home over a "joke." Ever heard of anyone being visited by the police for "joking" about bombs in an AOL chatroom or the like? It happens, and a lot more frequently than you would like to believe. "Humor" is lost on the police, unless you're talking about the "hilarity" of a drug dealer who broke every bone in his body when he "fell out of bed."

As an additional note to staff: simply removing the link was insufficient... copying and pasting a full sentence in quotes into google turned up the NYT article. This is how professors nail students for plagiarism these days, very easy.

'obvious to everybody not personality disordered'....And this includes how many svinya, precisely?

And you obviously have sod all clue about how pigs and magistrate think. Think they need real evidence to put before a judge or magistrate to get a warrant signed? do they fuck. What is written on the warrant the filth arrived with to harrass Tsathoggua with is potentially identifying, and will not be posted publicly, but not that he needed it, it was proof enough that magistrates and the like don't give a stuff weather the standard of evidence is proper, or even if there is real evidence at all. What is on that warrant in question, as a purpose justifying search consists of two separate things. One of them is completely without any meaning, legal, common sense, or even context, the other is not a criminal offense, nor criminal to possess, (and nor is it a case of suspected otherwise legal property stolen from its rightful owner)

The pigs and magistrates are perfectly happy to blow each other until judgement day, or until they have had their appetite sated for the semen of poncy deceased-badger-wig-wearing/donut-scarfing wankers, whichever of those two is the latter.

And to boot, the pork could give less of a flying fuck weather you are guilty or not. If they can boost their arrest figures by getting a complete innocent bystander arrested, convicted and sent down, good, as far as they are concerned.