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Occurrence of jail time within the community
« on: January 08, 2012, 07:50:13 AM »
Community members going to jail? how often does it happen?
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Re: Occurrence of jail time within the community
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2012, 08:07:00 AM »
Usually like 3-5 times a year. A lot of times it's not drug related though.

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Re: Occurrence of jail time within the community
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2012, 11:47:06 PM »
Done some time myself, got remanded, (falsely) accused of being a bomb maker.

Pigs here are dumber than a politician with his vocal cords ripped out...seized a paper printout of a neurobiology journal article clearly titled at the very top of the first page with (partial title, don't remember the full name of the article) '....compounds affecting learning and memory'

Morons wrote 'printout of bomb making instructions' on the warrant. Lying pack of sisterfucking  rapemagnets. I could cheerfully boil the crowbegotten ratbastard responsible for initiating that particular 8 months of my life in marburg virus-saturated conc. HF
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Re: Occurrence of jail time within the community
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2012, 12:28:41 AM »
I am not entirely sure about repealing cases in your parts, but couldn't you bring any sense into them?
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Re: Occurrence of jail time within the community
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2012, 12:51:27 AM »
When I was 16 I was tried as an adult on 3 counts of manufacture of explosives. I was facing 45 years. I won the landmark case as the bomb squad destroyed all the evidence and I maintained I was only a pyrotechnician making pyrotechnics. :)

Recently of course the feds hit me on importation & I'm going down for 4 years in the local bighouse. Gotta pay the dues now & then I guess.

I've really been quite lucky throughout my life to even be alive let alone (mostly) free.
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Re: Occurrence of jail time within the community
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2012, 01:06:04 AM »
Got fuck all chance dream0n, no money for a lawyer, and the 'evidence' was a pretty much cut and dried, as far as the filth, and courts would see it 'guilty as charged'

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Re: Occurrence of jail time within the community
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2012, 02:33:59 AM »
I need to get out of the US fast... same time next year I will be a Canadian.
Hoping that everything doesn't fall apart before then...
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Re: Occurrence of jail time within the community
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2012, 07:23:43 AM »
Pigs here are dumber than a politician with his vocal cords ripped out...seized a paper printout of a neurobiology journal article clearly titled at the very top of the first page with (partial title, don't remember the full name of the article) '....compounds affecting learning and memory'

Morons wrote 'printout of bomb making instructions' on the warrant. Lying pack of sisterfucking  rapemagnets.

damn!
thought that happened only in my neck of the woods.
i was once caught with some JWH018 (while still legal), they try to make me 'admit' that it was speed, and in the end, it says in my record i've been arrested for marijuana possession.
they confiscated my laptop under the pretext that it might have been stolen, i gave them the papers, took them 3 months to give it back, and i still have "theft" in my record as well.

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Re: Occurrence of jail time within the community
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2012, 08:17:43 AM »
Two things:

First of all, that ISN'T toady.

Second-if it was, he would be seriously fucking PISSED that you just connected his nym here to his real name. Sharpen the flying fuck up, thats the sort of shit-for-brains action that gives the pork a free ride to locking someone up, depending on what they have said online, potentially for a very long time. Or for that matter, get HIS door kicked in at 7am by a pack of jackbooted brain donor rejects. You just don't do that. Your luck the vespiary isn't my baby, if it was, you would be out on your arse quicker than you could look in a mirror and say 'gee, what a dumb bloody dickhead that guy in the picture is'

bureau of alcohol, tobacco, firearms and explosives? state filt...erm..police, ahem...sorry, not just wrong country, wrong continent. Wrong bit of the spectrum too...autie, not aspie.
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Re: Occurrence of jail time within the community
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2012, 09:00:36 AM »
don't you hate that shit tryl?
they charge you release you or, you are aquitted and it still shows up on the permanent record.
it smacks of modern day slavery; a way to destroy your life before it even begins.
the criminal justice system is atrocious here and, reminiscent of communist russia.
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Re: Occurrence of jail time within the community
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2012, 09:28:45 AM »
i subsequently cleared it all with just 300$ of a bribe. :D
about the time when we had our home raided and a ton of shrooms confiscated, among other things, but almost nothing that would really stick. still, they put into action the bullshit scare tactics, trying to make us admit that this was, in fact, not mushrooms, but marijuana, LMAO. we managed to get a lawyer then, and i had this nudge nudge wink wink ("you do work for good money, right?".. 3 times, with an anticipating 10 sec. stare) that all can be fixed if i coughed some dough, and while i was at it decided to try and clear it all. and it worked nicely. the pig was even acting like we were buddies by the time i handed him the cash.

one good thing about this country is the widespread corruption, on all levels.
it's how you get anything done around here...

point is, these charges shouldn't have been there in the 1st place.
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Re: Occurrence of jail time within the community
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2012, 12:08:05 PM »




Second-if it was, he would be seriously fucking PISSED that you just connected his nym here to his real name. 

Heh, yeah Im just picturing young Jack and Kirstens faces in about 12 hours time when the cavalry roll in... Lack of eye contact is a sure sign of guilt you know?

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Re: Occurrence of jail time within the community
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2012, 02:56:44 PM »
you guys are funny LMAO...yeah over here until just recently, if you picked up hard rubbish which had been thrown out, you could be charged with

"theft by finding" which is a "guilty until proven innocent" . . . somehow this seems as wrong as TWOD

Tryl at least at your place the "corruption" is overt!

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Re: Occurrence of jail time within the community
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2012, 03:59:13 PM »
yea, we got sanctions and whatnot from the EU because of us being corrupt as fuck (i know i am), but that's what you get for allowing an ex-commie country in your block. :P
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Re: Occurrence of jail time within the community
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2012, 05:07:56 PM »
Hm..., I was under the impression cavalry were somewhat outdated by the time the SS had their heyday. Gallows humor aside, Toady has been banged up once, and nicked a considerable number of times, all of the latter occurrences were during his youth, save for the trumped up raids that followed the getting banged up.

All but one of those being fishing expeditions on the same grounds and the other being because 'we wanted to find out if you were growing any weed on the premises', another fishing expedition, although none of the search warrants actually used, to Toady's recollection, the phrase 'fishing expedition' (although one of them DID have the temerity to list a crime which does not actually exist in any UK statute book as grounds for arrest and holding all cunting day in the nick and deny him his rx meds. Actually he is lucky that he has the sense not to take either chlormethiazole, nitrazepam, loprazolam or pregabalin that often, being on those four, plus strong opioids and an alpha2 adrenoreceptor agonist,

Chances are he would have at best had a seizure, or at worst stroked and potentially existed the remainder of his remaining lifespan physically crippled, brain damaged and dependent on others, negating completely, the possibility of finishing the job they started in a manner that stood a damn good chance of delivering in-flight meals consisting of a main course of still-smoking smoky bacon with a starter of vegetable/amphibian deity to the nearest passing jumbo jet, delicately seasoned with a thermobaric charge of a size sufficient to level a medium-size third world pesthole, a whole bunch of dog-shit-smeared rusty screws, a wee garnish of broken glass and a couple of gallons of lewisite/DMSO/phosgene oxime/a further portion of canine ordure for dessert.

This guy? got nicked once, and from the article its quite clear that he is (possibly now more accurate to use the past tense) substantially naiive in terms of competency when it comes to anticipating the reactions of other people and the filth.  I really do hate to think what the experience was like for him, and what marks may have been left behind

As for lacking eye contact, I was under the impression that it was the case that people telling pork pies actually made more eye contact and/or held it for longer because of exactly that widely held belief. I am, however, unsure of the veracity of that reference. I would expect that your average pig (and lets face it, is there any other variety? an extraordinary one would potentially qualify as an albeit stupid, uncivilized, power hungry, jackbooted, oxygen-embezzling homokaryon mother of a syphilitic ten-penny gutter minge*)

*I wouldn't deign to piss the second-hand urine of a HIV-infected tramp over the term 'human being' in such a manner as to make the comparison 'twixt the two.

From the experiences of other auties, and of aspies who live in the states, it sometimes comes across almost as if being on the spectrum were in and of itself a criminal 'act'


Always struck me and toady as somewhat odd and at times amusing the way people describe us as 'lacking' eye contact, as it implies a loss of something of value we should have,yet do not as opposed to something neurotypicals seem to need as either an interpersonal reinforcer or took for aiding in the enforcement of a greater degree of physical or social power over one of lesser such standing.

If I want someone to know I am talking to them, I see no need to make eye contact, I simply address them by name to begin with, or when the topic of a group conversation in mid-flow changes/a reply could be to an ambiguous recipient but is intended for only one. On the off chance I ever come to know somebody deaf who couldn't see me, then its not much different, I would simply tap them on their shoulder to gain attention then continue a conversation on in sign.

I say amusing...I guess I should really say, find it amusing said of me personally because I find the idea completely rediculous, when said of others, then not so, as there are plenty of cases where not making eye contact is one of the things used to justify heaping shit onto people on the spectrum, either by general attitudes of some people, or worse (usually) as one more criterion on some checklist of signs to bee ticked off before some more antipsychotic scripts can be sold and more money made.

 Personally I find it shocking that D2 antagonists are even licensed for autism 'treatment', if a kid/adult that isn't able to communicate well is kicking up a stink, it isn't for the fuck of it, and administering a chemical straitjacket is only going to result in one thing-the problem causing the spesh person to loose havoc stays there being just as much of a problem, only the person experiencing the discomfort/frustration/anger is forced to shut up complaining about it for the convenience of others.         

(I am not accusing you of being prejudiced or any slight at all goldmember btw, merely going on a slight tangent)

As for the latter use...I don't beat the shite out of people without having a decent reason but that doesn't particularly require the use of eye contact (outside the context of a couple of fingers contacting sharply in the eyes :P )

\/ Been doing several other things while typing this post, so didn't see everlastingreign's last post, to which I will respond.

Not much to say to it, other than don't fucking talk down to me as though I was an uppity spacker (term used for sarcasm/irony, its certainly not one I condone the use of), and it is completely irrelevant weather or not there is a single person posting here who thinks that is tsathoggua. What IS relevant, is that a full name of a publicly known person just got connected to a poster who, if all his posts on this forum were handed over to the filth, especially with the 'war on drugs' being waged against the american people, someone with a record, you think the pork are going to give a tinkers toss weather or not he is, or is not tsathoggua?

Are they fuck. To be honest, I'm actually more fucked off that you linked him with tsathoggua's online activities, rather than posted something that were it correct, could track straight to tsathoggua. Nothing the yank filth can do to a brit citizen on the basis of a hearsay statement, but I bet its considered more than enough for US narco squad  to make up whatever heap of bollocks they feel most likely to induce the required degree of compliance to the judge when they apply for a warrant to smash down doors.

Or is a warrant even required these days over there....

If you have any decency, take that link down. I've already reported the post once, if you don't edit it or remove it, I will report it again to ask that someone does it for you.

Oh, and I am perfectly normal, not that it matters a fuck to me weather or not I am considered normal. Normality very often boils down to nothing more than a question of numbers. And I could say the exact same to you 'I know its tough being NT', I wouldn't be the only one to think so, you NTs often miss so much fine detail, you can't stim, usually lack hyperfocus, I could go on, but hopefully it would be, ideally having made my point, superfluous.

Some of us have more difficulties than others, I am one who faces less than some, I speak perfectly fluently and can speak in ASL sign in addition to that, and I have relatively few insurmountable sensory issues. I do have some, but not, in general, ones that cannot be overcome or bypassed For instance, photosensitivity, so I wear dark shades much of the time and have a dimmer switch fitted to control the light in my bedroom, the only room in the house that doesn't have one of those vile energy-saver bulbs as they don't work with dimmer switches. And I can't eat vegetables. Solution being I don't eat any and pick them out of food that already has any in it.

The main thing that does cause me the worst difficulty is physical overstimulation, that actually is quite a bastard to have to deal with, especially when it comes to sleeping. That is dealt with successfully though by daily use of meds that block noradrenaline release, and by use of either chlormethiazole, loprazolam or nitrazepam as/if needed as appropriate.

You might just learn something though, from the fact that a great many of us who are judged lower functioning  that have a means to communicate would have nothing to do with a 'cure' (disregarding entirely that necessarily meaning the stripping of a person from their identity and personality, and being achievable only by abortion/euthanasia), they wouldn't change who they are or how they are despite the difficulties some of us face.

Also, a lot of disability is caused by other people making something that doesn't bother the person themselves at all. In the case of autistic/aspergian people, for instance, there are kids that get forced to do 'therapy' aimed often at 'helping' them stop stimming, something perfectly natural to us, which can only result in harm if forcibly stopped.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
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Re: Occurrence of jail time within the community
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2012, 07:12:29 PM »
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Jack, it turned out, was on his way to court. A chemistry whiz, he had spent much of his adolescence teaching himself to make explosives and setting them off in the woods in experiments that he hoped would earn him a patent but that instead led the state police and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to charge him with several counts of malicious explosion.   ;D

HA! The book referenced in that story is by John Robison, brother of one of my favorite authors, Augusten Burroughs. That Jack kid is Augusten's nephew! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusten_Burroughs

John Robison used to design the guitars & pyro for Pink Floyd, among others and owns the largest Rolls Royce & Bentley repair services in the country!
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Re: Occurrence of jail time within the community
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2012, 10:52:44 PM »
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/26/us/navigating-love-and-autism.html?pagewanted=all.

Did anyone else notice that he's drawing some kind of amphetamine on the whiteboard during the video? Right around 2:10, then it comes up again later.
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Re: Occurrence of jail time within the community
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2012, 02:46:58 PM »
Point 1

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There the links gone now, am I done or do I have any other petty ass things to worry about? Lighten the fuck up he posted a story about a fellow that resembles everything you have told us over the past few years, if you don't get the joke its really not our problem

Not so funny a joke mate, let me explain...

Just reading this in connection with the report - glad the link is gone, linking "actual" events to pseudonyms is wrong on several levels, especially given the sanctions that can be invoked upon some poor bastards .in some fucked up places) for merely accessing widely available information or discussing organic chemistry (or chemistry involving nitrates/peroxides). Providing information and/or suggestions (whether or not they work) is also potentially illegal in such places. Having a semi-anonymous discussion forum where such things can be discussed at some level of safety (due to the anonymity itself) is obviously endangered by linking actual events with pseudonyms. There are several major examples, at least one of which I strongly suspect is from this site already, then there is of course the "strike" fiasco and several others that didn't end up going that bad (but which it would be inappropriate to describe).

A similar problem would be encountered (but with a great deal more aggro - I ain't as nice a person as Tsathoggua and nowhere near as forgiving) if any of "my" details were linked to this pseudonym. I personally know of at least one individual (maybe several pseudonyms, who knows?) who was facing decades for merely "possessing" glassware and instructions. That involved a great deal of collected material from the ISP and several sites where the pseudonym(s) were used to collect several years worth of contributions, pictures and discussions from that person as evidence of their ongoing wrongdoing. It is perhaps worth noting that that person lost several thousand dollars worth of glass and chemicals, several computers (2 PC's and 2 laptops) and incurred more in legal costs, none of which was ever recovered.

Let's just say it is a touchy subject, one you'd be wise to take on the chin and learn from...

Point 2

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Re: Occurrence of jail time within the community
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2012, 12:58:31 PM »
N01uno made the point I would have, sedit. Its not because I am offended, or give a dying rat's bleeding anal fissure nanogram of fuck about it tracking back to tsathoggua or the person who does his typing for him. But connecting another person, who could be tracked, erroneously to toady's nym, and all the things he has posted here-there is a real, existant practical possibility of the long arm of the law coming around to beat the shite out of him.

ANY connecting of a nym on a board like this, to ANY real person not only compromises the security of a board serving the clandestine (for a large part) sciences. Would it be so much of a joke if jack and his girl got dragged down the nick, dumped in with a bunch of accused robbers, street thugs, loco gang members and rapists? then had to pay out the arse for a lawyer, not to mention the absolute certainty of having to fight tooth and nail ever to see any of his lab equipment or electronics again?

That happens, Toady has no idea of if sedit has ever been busted, guilty plea or not, for anything, but thats what happens. Last time it happened to toady, it was a fishing expedition with no legitimate reason for suspicion that he had ever committed any offense-pigs were checking to see weather they could find anything in his possession to then try and build a case off.

No charges were ever filed against him, yet lab equipment, computers et al were only returned after nearly a full year, some of it came home broken, and they never did return the high-voltage, high capacitance capacitors that he had earmarked for building himself a railgun rifle.

He got those free, by chance, seeing as they were lying around the workshop of someone who had never used them in many years, and would never have a use for them again. A one-time chance. Ever seen the price on really high-end caps of the sort that would be good for putting together the kind of heavy duty pulse-rated power supply needed to power weapons of that nature? put it this way, for someone on a shite disability income its fleabay or nothing, and pot luck searching for a year or two if one wants a whole bunch off a whole bunch of  1000KV+ 1 farad+ caps and a month of saving per cap.

And the 5ml microscale pear-shaped distillation flask with built in condenser and separate inbuilt vac adapter, claisen head and separate still head with second integrated condenser? toady got that for about a fiver from somebody who didn't do glassware specifically, a general odds'n'ends seller who had little idea of what it actually was, short of 'glass science stuff'. Came back with the top of the reflux condenser smashed and the still head side-arm with its condenser and vac line neatly snapped off along a scored line. His impression, going from the manner of breakage there was that it was done quite deliberately.

And the only reason they didn't take his guns, and oriental martial arts weapons that time, was they still had the big red tags tied to the trigger-guards from the firearms lab with the time/date/case no./seizing pig on them from the previous time toady was targeted.

The previous fishing expedition, again no charges laid, resulted in the front door smashed in at about 7am in a no-knock raid, broken glass everywhere along the front drive, a risk to his (sadly killed recently by a hit and run driver), and any other cats around the area, one pig actually opened a jar of unlabeled chemical fluid while toady was sat cuffed in the house, surrounded by filth, sniffed at it, and some of which escaped onto the floor in the same room where Tsathoggua was stuck, cuffed.

HE knew what was in there, nothing but naphtha saturated with MHRB extract, but like he said, there was no label on there, didn't need one. Toady's lab, Toady knows whats in there and nobody else ever uses his equipment or reagents, there isn't anyone who even could, that he knows, so the odd unlabeled container is no problem.

But the porker had, obviously, no idea whatsoever was in that jar. So as far as he was concerned it could have been a couple of liters of anything at all, theoretically exposing toady, his cat and the rest of his family to chemicals with extremely high toxicity. Couldn't care less about some bacon-slice  horfing down a nice lungful or three of fluoroethyl fluoroacetate ester, or covering himself in KCN-saturated DMSO, but certainly fucking well not while several feet away from the toad god. That unprofessional sack of feculent plague bubo-exudate could have gotten himself killed, or permanently maimed in a hideous manner, which would absolutely delight toady beyond measure, but just so long as the dumb cunt did it when the unknown lab project was 'safely' in a separate meatwagon to the one transporting Tsathoggua to the abattoir.

After being held from 7am to almost midnight, with a mere fraction of his many rx meds, in opioid withdrawal and suffering a rebound reaction to a relative of clonidine, making the former a whole lot worse and doing christ only knows what to his cardiovascular health and BP, he was eventually released. Got back home, having been denied any food all day, the first thing he did was to go straight to check on his pets. Cat was ok, lucky for him, as he legged it out of where the front door used to be, thankfully not injuring himself on any of the broken glass shards covering the hallway and drive, but his carefully raised brood of false widow (Steatoda spp.) spiders? every single one of a couple of hundred of them, dead.

And it was not an accident either. Tsathoggua informed the porkers, when they asked that ubiquitous pig-raid question 'is there anything we should know about in the house, or anything that can hurt us while we search?' he told them about his spiders, told them exactly where they were, and asked politely, to make sure that they weren't accidentally knocked over off the shelf their containers were in, and make sure they didn't get hurt.

Their containers were still in their exact same place as they were when Tsathoggua was dragged from his bed and out of his home, only full of killed spiders.

As far as I know, there is no act of british legislation that mandates or allows the killing of pets during a search.

And those are just the last two incidences of toady being targeted in that manner. And its thanks to that that he was left with PTSD. Its taken a lot of work with AMT, to deprogram himself of that, combining it with methoxetamine to combine the psych work with the fear-extinction properties of NMDA antagonists and eliminate the thought processes and emotional connections that composed his PTSD, and made him go into full on fight-or-flight mode, heart rate going through the roof every time a car went down his road that he couldn't see was not a cop car, likewise every time a meat van went past him while out in public, sleep being one constant nightmare, punctuated by...oh...yes...other nightmares, waking up in panic mode...and more in that vein.

THAT is the sort of thing that could, potentially happen to a completely innocent (in the eyes of the filth...of course, even those working with illegal substances are doing nothing actually wrong) person, who is entirely unconnected to this board by being named as a specific member. Is that such a funny joke?

Not being an american, toady doesn't know how that sort of thing typically goes down, the house-trashing  aside (and unlike here in the UK, far greater potential possibility of summary execution by trigger happy donut-scarfing ambulant dog waste)...one would imagine, as a bloody foreigner like toady, that given the meth mania and obsession with the war on the populace on the pretext of drug related 'crime' that thanks to having specific drug lab training for those svinya that specialise in taking labs down that they are a little more professional about the actual procedures involved in doing so, greater awareness of risks etc than what toady has witnessed/been through?

Vesp-I think that we need to make it a rule here that we never compromise the security of the board and its members by linking a nym to a real name of a living person, regardless of the truth or falsehood of the association. IMO a first offense deserves a temp ban, and a second offense should warrant a permanent ban, given the serious nature of an allegation like that.

The consequences are just a suggestion, but we definitely need a written rule against revealing the identity of members without their prior publicly announced written consent by any second party.


n01uno-Oh, Believe you me, I am neither nice, nor forgiving, to those that cross me in a manner like shit-for-brains up there did, nor those who endanger others of my kind, but the simple fact is, I have no power to do anything other than report the post, and reply with a counterblast against such stupidity. What else can one member do against another anonymous pseudonym?

Had it been someone I personally knew and could reach out and touch...lets just say, that they would be unlikely to post again, at least until/if they got out of their wheelchair and regained the use of their arms and legs.

As for you, and your last post, everlastingreign, you obviously think I am just touchy because I am some bullying/discrimination victim thanks to being an autism sufferer, and are trying to get a rise out of me by trolling and insulting.

Sorry, but you could not be further off the mark. I don't tolerate discrimination against me personally, or other auties, or for that matter aspies. And I certainly do not suffer from autism. I am glad to have been born spesh, and I am proud of who, and what I am.

So I am not even going to dignify your idiocy with getting fucked off with you and making an angry, aggravated post in response. Such crap as 'hell is other spergs', its just too pathetic for me to be insulted by it. Simply put, just don't bother, there isn't any point, so just be quiet and concentrate on clandestine chemistry. If you have no interest in science and/or clan.chem then there really isn't much of a reason for you to be here.
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Tsathoggua

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Re: Occurrence of jail time within the community
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2012, 10:46:27 PM »
Lol. by any chance, did it occur to you that I may have been talking to somebody other than yourself? If not, then you may want to consult a doctor experienced in performing ego-ectomies and have it trimmed down a size or ten.

In actual fact, I was talking primarily to both sedit and no1uno. The former disagreeing with his perception of the seriousness of linking a pseudonym with a rylnym, regardless of the owner of the latter, irrespective of membership, or lack thereof of the forum. And the latter, agreeing, and elaborating on why I think it in such bad form, and suggesting to the mods that such behaviour needs clamping down on, should it occur in future. Don't think I have seen anyone do it before, but nobody needs to be doing it again.

'sperg rage' ? exactly what do you mean?

You do not seem to grasp what I got hacked off about. It was nothing whatsoever to do with the joke. I was not offended. I don't feel any emotion whatsoever about it, in and of itself.

Its the fact that the vespiary is a community, and members of a community do not need to be weakening it. Think of it this way: bees (the hymenopterans, not the clandestine chemist variety) are highly successful, because they act as a unified superorganism. The whole is greater than the sum of its members. If a single worker bee started chewing holes in the hive, and had, theoretically, the ability to attract the Varroa mite to the colony, the hive would suffer as a result. A single bee doing that might make but a small impact, but the more bees start rolling out the Varroa mite red carpet the greater the decline in the colony's (or forum) state of health. Enough bees do it, the hive dies.

To address your points:

'10000 word rant'...

Tsathoggua was not personally insulted, and his intended tone, where he was concerned, was not a rant, but dialog with other forum members.

Where he IS pissed off, is where a third party is threatened. No1uno will back that up, Tsathoggua is sure, given his last post. Tsathoggua isn't just a member of the community here, he is a member of the autistic community. And a community should act to protect its own.

Tsathoggua doesn't believe the joke to have been malicious in intent, but it WAS thoughtless and a stupid thing to do.

'Return to making on topic posts'

Point no.1: this is the den of iniquity, Tsathoggua sticks to discussing chemistry/pharmacology in the relevant forum sections.

Point no.2: Tsathoggua WAS on topic. He was talking about his own experience of jail time, and subsequent repeated involvement with the filth., up to and until said thoughtless attempt at humor. And to a point, in pointing out the possible consequences to jack and his other half by connecting him, hearsay or otherwise with the post content of this pseudonym he still was.

If that is not on topic, I don't know what is.

'sperg rage'...I call it as I see it. I don't sugar-coat what I say, if it is what I think. Weather to complete strangers or to loved ones, it is the same. That doesn't equate to rudeness, one does not have to put things in a way which one knows will be unkind and hurtful to another, but to be otherwise than direct, and straight to the point is equal to dishonesty.

I know damn well that is not the usual way of seeing things for NTs, but I am not one, (nor do I wish to be), and I am not going to change the way I am to suit NTs as a whole. Some auties/aspies attempt to act 'normal'* The psychological effect on those among ourselves who do try and force ourselves to be something we are simply not, and not meant to be is damaging. I know of a great many who at some point were less confident in their own identity than I am, who felt pressured into appearing like, as you so charmingly put it, a 'norm'. It had a healthy effect on none of them.

As for the 10000 word rant again...if I see bigotry against people on the spectrum, you bloody bet I'm going to stir up a shitstorm against the one(s) responsible. And if I see, more commonly, people who just don't know that of which they speak, having formed their image of autism, asperger's, and neurodiverse people from negative sources like, say, Autism Speaks, then I take a different tone, and try to educate people.

My last post might well have been wordy...I am whatever the verbal equivalent of hyperlexic is (not to mention, hyperlexic). I type the way I talk. Get over it.

*What exactly is normal? Simply a function of the numerical majority. If there were, numerically speaking, few NTs in society, you would no longer be viewed as neurotypical at all, and viewed as not normal. Notice I don't say ABnormal...the connotations are significantly different.

Nomen mihi Legio est, quia multi sumus

I'm hyperbolic, hypergolic, viral, chiral. So motherfucking twisted my laevo is on the right side.