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4-HO-DMT [Final]
« on: January 23, 2012, 02:55:47 AM »
Here is a Trip Report that may (or may not) be posted to erowid when I feel it is complete; my memory of the event comes back slowly as I try to recall what happened and when.

Age: Young and physically healthy
Weight:  ~60 kg
Dosage of 4-HO-DMT (freebase) : 35-40mg   
Source: Vendor... (White  pure  flakey powder)
Desired effects: To see just how far down the rabbit hole goes. 
Intensity:  (Very Intense)
ROA: Oral in sugar solution to avoid taste - has no after taste - but still strong chemical taste/smell.
Background: I have some experience with cannabis, MDA, LSD, MDMA, 2C-I, psilocybin mushrooms, mood was anxious but good.

Experience Time Line:
The main effects lasted a total of 9 hours, while they peaked around hour 3-4  the Come up before visuals started was just less than an hour.
Mental state was clear until 1.5 hours into the experience when the visuals developed further only to spring to life the un-natural world inside my home.
It might be described as riding a single very large wave and turning out the backside moments before it crashes on the shoreline -if you are familiar with surfing. If you are familiar with psychedelic mushrooms then you know that the mushroom experience comes in waves -building and receding in strength, only to swell to a new heights during the next wave.

Details:
Music kick-started the experience, but was quickly removed because of extreme peace followed by rushes of paranoia.
The music is called "Are you shpongled" by Shpongle. It is a perfect complement to the mushroom state.
Come-up was extremely quick, an ever intensifying wave of emotion and psychedelia persisted until my mental state was broken down to that of a child -innocent and incapable of truly anything- yet the fundamental instincts of survival remained embedded in the imagery that would present itself later in the evening.
The visuals could be described as fun and mushroom-like until the peak of the experience when they began to take a new form. The visuals now held meaning and represented some memory long forgotten of a world forged in respect for earth and her plants.
An out-of-body experience occurred during the peak of effects, it had lasted, (perhaps, but no way to really tell) 5 minutes, during which time my body started to shut down. It did not believe it had reason to remain functioning as it did not detect a spirit within. in effect, I witnessed myself --dying right before my eyes. An experience I don't particularly want to repeat, but will not be forgotten. During the time I spent outside of my body I (tried to) speak to entities that revealed themselves to me. The entities I spoke with did not speak english or any language that I recognized as modern. I remember saying "I don't know what you are, but can we be friends?". It was so amazingly strange for myself, I usually can keep grounded even in the most intense of situations.

Summary:
It was absolutely amazing, but on the next adventure I will stick to the Shulgin recommended doses. Nearly doubling the highest recommended dose made for an extremely intense experience. Although more intense than those experiences included in Tihkal, it fits the description of effects down to the word.
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Insights into side effects related to higher does:
During the beginning part of the experience no bruxism was noted where it usually occurs, but my body was clearly shaking (almost seizing level)   from the new found energy that is common for me during high doses of any psychedelic substance. Heart rate was elevated more than I would have liked, but that is effectively normal in any dose.

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It turns out my spirit form is a rabbit ... this would explain the higher sensitivity to spiritual experiences.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2012, 11:47:44 PM by dream0n »
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Re: 4-HO-DMT (yet to be written)
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2012, 11:24:46 PM »
i was just thinking about this today, and trying to find this writeup on the cebil seed extraction at mycotopia.

has been ticked with a special priority tick in the must-do list for quite some time now.

anticipating further details from you. :)
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Re: 4-HO-DMT
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2012, 09:26:03 PM »
Thanks for the excellent 4-ho-dmt (psilocin) report dreamOn!

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Re: 4-HO-DMT [Final]
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2012, 05:45:23 AM »
""It turns out my spirit form is a rabbit ... this would explain the higher sensitivity to spiritual experiences.""

What do you mean spirit form? How do you determine?
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Re: 4-HO-DMT [Final]
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2012, 11:13:54 PM »
A recurring visual hallucination and something I remembering seeing when out of body... Also rabbits are very sensitive to psychedelics when compared to rats and humans. I was noting that I am much more sensitive to mind altering effects than most people.
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Re: 4-HO-DMT [Final]
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2012, 05:53:17 AM »
Oh ok. :)
I like that analogy. It all worked out really well... since a rabbit always kind of comes up in psychedelic related things like Breathe by Pink Floyd, Alice in Wonderland, etc... "rabbit hole" in general...

Was just curious what it all meant.
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Re: 4-HO-DMT [Final]
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2012, 10:12:15 AM »
yeah great bio Dreamonmon, I liked the bit about seeing how far down the rabbit hole goes!

do you think the rabbit was related, or coincidence?

Imust say again, you write great bioassays, TBH I am too scared to admit shit('cept well passed events, or smoko and shrooms)

so thankyou

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Re: 4-HO-DMT [Final]
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2012, 12:53:17 AM »
Fresh, something that you said on my first bioassay, words loose their meaning... I did experience that during this experience, not necessarily as hearing something distorted -but hearing "gibberish" word sounds- when in reality it was a movie playing speaking just fine.  That, I suppose, is somewhat scary for me -that only occurred while peaking though, I guess I have a strong connection to reality?
It was, the rabbit, I think very related to my mind set previous to the experience. I rarely remember to close my eyes while I trip, which means that all my reports described were oev's  (possibly otherwise, but not likely) It is a very stimulating experience until the peak is over when the body begins to relax as soon as the mind lets it.
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Re: 4-HO-DMT [Final]
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2012, 03:30:53 AM »
yeah I sometimes get that mixed up word effect when I'm straight! I think its picking up the conversation at the 'wrong' syllable and then getting the cadence all out of wack...sounds very fuckin strange thats for sure :o

it seems to 'repair itself' as soon as you get "d rthym" back dreamon mon ;D
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