jon keep it under control
It has a loving edge that other stimulants just don't have.

PH YEAH WHAT ABOUT 3,4 DICHLORO ANALOGS?
ON THE BENZENE RING TO TICKLE AND SUCK THOSE DOPEAMINE RECEPTORS JUST RIGHT.

That is an amazing amount to be doing. Wow. Do you now what ROA ? , and the same question to JON are you only administering the ethyl phenidate nasally.

   fresh hears its not such a pleasant drug at all    doesn't really sound worth abusing 

   what would you say about the reported 'lack of euphoria' of this compound?  Does it just make you REALLY speedy with not much stone?

  In fresh's opinion it sounds like this stuff is one of those "not quite enough" drugs  , They're the drugs that just dont ever quite get you stoned 'enough' and so you want more
 
   The 'problem' with this type of drug is, they just dont get you 'noticably' more stoned after the first dose (unlike good coke, speed, alcohol and even smoking dope) and the 'recreational user' not getting enough 'recreation' with their 'use' is going to take other substances with the view to a 'better stone'
   so imo, it's at times like these that a person's more likely to take something that they never had or probably wouldn't have taken before this moment of frustration!

    there's nothing worse than going out with a plan to getting fucked up, and the first stuff you first get your hands on just doesn't do the trick  -  lol anyone who's gone clubbing and bought pills will probably know the feeling of 'needing more' ..... just a thought

   and becoz more of this stuff just makes you 'speedier'   like most strong stimulants, it ends up making almost any other drug you take, less effective.
And the alcohol you drink will still have all its unpleasant after effects waiting for you when the speed/coke/ethylphenidate wears off     

 how is/was the comedown jonmon?  I hear it's a bitch 

 the paranoia and total scattered headspace sounds a bit like the crazy paranoia and empty head one can get from doing too much coke 

that combined with the apparent lack of euphoria sounds like this is one compound with some nasty trade offs for not much more benefit than lots of energy to clean the house     Not really so much fun yeah? 

 

   thanx dmon but I kinda got all that, I was more curious about a drug with a noted 'lack' of euphoria, which imo is a pretty weird thing to note about a drug, almost like it is 'dysphoric'! 
 
 Aside from the physical 'up' one gets from this drug I guess what I'm asking is "what makes this drug desirable enough to want to abuse, to the point of becoming physically addicted to it?"

 there's gotta be something to it 
 
what about it's unpleasant effects dmon, any personal experiences?

comedown aint so bad, the problem is Psychosis i just got out of the psych ward (again)
the euphoria is'nt as good as coke but it's in the neighborhood of cocaine euphoria with euphoria comes that strong compulsion to do it and do it and do it again.
i would'nt snort it though it's rough on the nose and there's no real rush to speak of.
but so far i like it i'll just have to make sure i sleep the reason i went psychotic was i stayed up 2 days on a gram.
not much tahchycardia which i like very much a very functional stimulant.
if it were as euphoric as coke it would be draining bank accounts but it's not.
but sometimes that's a good thing for the aformenetioned reasons.

thanx jonmon that's pretty much what I wanted to know 

 You say it does have a euphoric element which I kinda guessed it would, esp considering the receptors it works on, this suggests it would have a fair 'abuse/addiction potential'

Did you have a 'psychotic episode' matey?  Was it similar to what occurs with too much coke/speed for too long? Just staying awake for a few days won't usually send someone around the twist

What I don't understand is why its apparent "lack of euphoria" is noted in the refs     why would they note this?  For the prescribers maybe? idk     Ideas 

also elevated dopamine can trigger psychosis in any situation.
that's why antipsychotic drugs typically block dopamine.

My hazy opinion. It is an ester. It's not a 'maybe' analog, it is an analog by the court. You will be charged as if it was methylphenidate powdered. There is no ambiguity in the law. No possible in the books legitimate way to acuire other than if a pharm. company wants in on the money. But, under the Act, human consumption can be the loop hole if properly done.  Stimulants are over rated and somewhat unappealing if not used functionally.

careful is right i thought i had it under control just like coke.
but the compulsion is very similar and dari's have a way of sneaking up on you because dopeamine is a neurotransmitter you will satisfy at the expense of all other priorities.
that's why the columbiams ship coke up here its a game they play call beat the gringo.