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Hey there SWIM, let me introduce myself.
« on: May 18, 2012, 10:30:03 PM »
Just wanted to say hello to all the gays, oops sorry, swim:s was what i really ment.

Swi4s is glad to be here and will bee even glader when Swi4s leaves one hopes.
Also glad to see many famous swim:s here , which leads Swi4s to think there´s much to learn here.

Swi4s is from lets say northern europe, in the Eu non the less, so many american swim:s info is hard to convert to this Swi4s neck of the woods.

Cant yet contribute really since many Swim:s here are godlike to Swim, but am Swim is on the move, have just gotten a hold of mcmurry´s organic chemistry and up untill that Swim:s updated so hold on to your hats LE.

Swi4s longterm plans to dream of Mda/Mdma. Shortterm Swi4s will dream rP/I on wich he read much on alike sites. When Swi4s dream this he will caertainly document and post, the least Swi4s can do.


Swi4s has questions he said, they were about and in the form - I have this mixed with this and plan to......hava i now gotten?
LIke am Swi4s on the right track?  No real how do i?
So if any Swim feels like shooting the breeze with me and just give me a nudge or fudge give me a Pm.

Peace out Swi4s
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Re: Hey there SWIM, let me introduce myself.
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2012, 11:08:58 PM »
I would love to be the first to welcome you and to encourage you to follow all of the rules.
Good day sir!
off to bigger and better things - don't worry I will visit from time to time

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Re: Hey there SWIM, let me introduce myself.
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2012, 02:56:15 AM »
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I would love to be the first to welcome you and to encourage you to follow all of the rules

lol yep I second that  8)   And as fresh very much appreciates members introducing themselves he will add a few more hints for happy hiving :D

4studieonly please read AND take note of, and then follow the rules, at least until you are more familiar with this forum and the way peeps post ;)
 Showing respect for this place by doing this WILL make a BIG difference on how 'successful' your participation in this nest will be ;) 

 Next...dude quit with the bullshit spelling crap -- correct spelling and punctuation are "Required" -- All this (and More!!!) is made crystal clear in 'the rules'  on of which is that you dont use "SWIM" or any variations of it, again the 'reasons' for this ARE to be found in posts in "Site Matters"

Check em out!

  Vesp and many of her ( :o he's 'my queen' right? :o) fellow wasps have worked tirelessly (as all good wasps do :))) to make and keep this nest free of "useless wasps with useless information"

 I'm not suggesting you are these things, but jumping in with an intro post which breaks a bunch of rules,  is is . . . well it's a bit silly really  :o  ;)

 But hey we all have strange days when we might make posts which we later we may wish we had worded a little differently ???

 Don't take this as a 'putdown'  matey, it isn't....and if you do follow the rules and post appropriately, you WILL find many folks here willing to help you achieve your 'dreams'

  Are you familiar with the Rhodium Archives?  http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/  click on the chemistry archive and scroll down ;)

You are right about there being "so much to learn" here...so welcome matey and lets hope you end up having some great dreams  ;D 8)

Don't worry about not being able to 'contribute' yet.  It's much better you say nothing than to just post shit for the sake of it!

 You can always ask questions in the "Short Questions" thread in Other Chemistry  and you can bring up things you're interested in and shoot the shit in the Den of Iniquity  8)

 Where you come from doesn't matter aside from a few things like the difference in availability of precursors from place to place means not every OTC procedure is OTC to everyone :-\ but that's usually a smallish issue.

 The biggest problem would be not speaking much english, but your english seems ok.... but duude! get your grammar and spelling together and please drop that weird 'k3wl' type shit  :P

 IDK which forums you've been visiting but our "vacuous posts" thread where all the shit goes has more 'useful' information about drugs synthesis that a place like zoklet (uurgh shiver just writing the name :o) has on its whole forum.

 Unfortunately there is a LOT of shit out there and only a few sites out there have even tried to maintain the kind of basic 'standards' applied here which makes for a site with lots of quality data and very little 'noise' or bullshit. 8)

 So 4studiesonly (and any other new wasps reading this)  if you are sincerely interested in dreaming and prepared to play by the rules I again wish you Welcome and may you learn much  :)

f1 ;)
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Re: Hey there SWIM, let me introduce myself.
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2012, 12:19:03 PM »
I quote "but duude! get your grammar and spelling together and please drop that weird 'k3wl' type shit" "bunch".

So i do not have english as my first language. But without that swim-charachter that seemingly pop up everywere and me apparently spelling and doing grammar like a 3-year-old were there anything else flawed since i evidently broke a bunch of rules? I mean so i can concentrate on the things that lead me her.
And dont think i am ungrateful for you pointing out my faults, I aim to please. And i hope you would be so kind to point me right when i need direction.

Hey.
First off i really apologize about the the usage of swim. I actually did not read the rules, which was really stupid. Must say though that i was dumbfounded to see the term swim not being used, especially since that term has nearly being synonymous with this kind of sites. But out he/she goes now.
So i read now that we should write in a timeless manner and free of personally identifying information. Fine, like a labrapport i immediately thought.
No problem there, when your describing synths. But how do i go about when asking on how to do a speficic in a synth or describing a problem?
Is it then possible to use such identifying marks as the word I?   Can I....., Should I........., well you get the picture, i hope.

Yes i am familiar with rhodium as well as many other sites like this, read a shitload on those (whose names  reminds you of pissing yourself at night) and also on scimad. There are a few more i´ve been reading on, many are truly great but the problem is. What is true? I mean a lot and i do mean a lot of threads start out fine then a couple of dickheads come in and just makes a mess of it, some even come with disinformation. A newbee like me has enormous problems sorting out the shit from the goddies, actually its impossible for a newbee and that may be the point they want to make and one cant help but feel discouraged sometimes.
Well i digress a bit but my point which was lost in all my ranting is this: You want references (which i think is a necessity) when someone comes with an idea(old or new). Is then Rhodium acceptable? Is all that is on rhodium all test-synthed? can i trust it to be true and so follow those suggestions/synths and be happy with endproduct?
I ask because Ive seen Rhodium being used as reference sometimes. I know there are far better ones patents, universitylitterature, pubmed etc but it would be great for a newbee if at lest Rhodium which has none forum would be free from faults and disinformation.


Ain't a bit worried about contributing for a long while, Since i am newbee. But when I'm ready to dream for the first time i promise to document it with pics and show the work. Yes i will do it for pride but also for the chance to get insights from others that has come a longer and deeper, whom might be able to both correct and  point me on a next project. These documentaries of my progress is also a way to pay back and to guide the next newbee.

Peace out from 4studiesonly

By the way what in the name of belsebub does k3wl mean? and just how managed i to offend with whatever it is?
« Last Edit: May 19, 2012, 02:16:52 PM by 4studiesonly »
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Re: Hey there SWIM, let me introduce myself.
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2012, 02:11:59 PM »
hello again my new wasp mate and wasp after my heart  ;D   thank you for posting this reply which shows amongst other things, you read the rules ;D

I'm making a joke, fresh often does but never when being serious about chemistry :o

the 'third person' writing styles protects identities amongst other things
  there's a cool thread on "the use of the word swim" in the den of iniquity, worth checkin out.  You will work it out matey dont sweat it and if you do fuck up, the moderators will kindly assist you in rectifying the problem

ask questions as you would ask a question...the use of the third person is more for when you want/need to make statements of things that really did happen, in a way that disconnects the writer from the events. i.e. "the gun was fired at him, he fell down dead"  and  " I, 4studies only, a polar bear, the cat fired the gun at him and he fell down dead" can you see the difference ?  ;D
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What is true? I mean a lot and i do mean a lot of threads start out fine then a couple of dickheads come in and just makes a mess of it, some even come with disinformation. A newbee like me has enormous problems sorting out the shit from the goddies, actually its impossible for a newbee and that may be the point they want to make and one cant help but feel discouraged sometimes.

matey I HEAR YA!

  I can totally feel I 'understand' where 'you are coming from' with regards to TRYING TO LEARN this type of chemistry :P  It's not easy "sorting the wheat from the chaff"  Although the 'signal to noise ratio' here is high, the 'gems'  always to be hidden to the newbie :P (in fact half the time they're just plain old hidden amongst the noise and chatter you speak of on other sites.

This is one of the main reasons for keeping the standards as high as reasonably possible by asking the members to follow certain rules.  This assists the qualiy from the start, with the OPs following the guidelines and then if the members also follow the rules and post 'sensibly' ( a good guideline is make it something you yourself would like to read ;)) then the topic should be free of all the idiots and crap bullshit and mis/disinformation et al :P

 That way when a new wasp like yourself comes along you can have faith in what you are reading and as you can see the more intelligent comments and pov included the better the overall learning experience for the reader.

And  THAT'S what we want, folks like yourself coming along joining in learning asking question sharing what you do know, can find out and participating and basically just 'sharin the love'

 Man I Know how you feel about trying to learn from all the crap online, sifting through megabytes of bullshit for a few kilobytes of bliss >:( :P ;D 8)

 I felt pretty much the same way nearly 4 years ago when i came here and TBH it's only been the last 18months or so when thing started to fall into place and only quite recently when I realized I actually understand a little of what is actually happening in the pot, and also on paper :o  It's weird kinda like learning a new language describing a whole new world of 'behaviours'

keep up the reading and if you want to know anything specific like what to read, things you CAN believe feel free to pm me and we'll take it from there :D

cheers matey I think you will fit in here just fine

your fellow wasp f1 ;)
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Re: Hey there SWIM, let me introduce myself.
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2012, 03:00:10 PM »
Thanks a bunch of a lot for those clarifications and i will do my utmost not to stumble again in that department.
I will hold you to that offer on reading material that is belivable a little later, best offer i gotten yet on these types of sites. But i have to ask again, is the stuff at rhodium tested in a lab or has it slipped in dickheads there to?

On my count i have read enough chemistry so i would get accepted to study chemistry in a university, but you know how it is time goes and shit happen and you loose a lot but it is easy to gain it back with a bit of will.

Quick one: 1 Is mcmurrys organic chemistry a good book to spend time with?
               
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Re: Hey there SWIM, let me introduce myself.
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2012, 03:43:29 PM »
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But i have to ask again, is the stuff at rhodium tested in a lab or has it slipped in dickheads there to?

lolyeah with time you will be able to figure that one out for yourself ;D

a couple of good synths done by 'real' people on rhodium are the Brightstar and Methylman  mdma/mda write ups. They are where most folks start. They are known to be fairly accurate and work.

 If you look at antibody2's writeup (its in drug synthesis and extraction' section here)  of her "Acidic Al/Hg MDOH" is a good example of very genuine results from very real wasps ;)'

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Quick one: 1 Is mcmurrys organic chemistry a good book to spend time with?

can say never read it.  I think it's important to find something you dont mid reading and makes sense to you.  The same things can be explained in a few different ways andiy depends on how much time you put into looking :o

I'm sorry I cant recommend more han going to the reference book section at SM  they have some really cool books

 I forget the names of the  ones I would recommend but next time I'm over there I will check it out and ge back to you ;)

good luck with your progress keep up the reading, go read those synths I recommended again and most of all Enjoy ;D
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Re: Hey there SWIM, let me introduce myself.
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2012, 05:21:43 PM »
Mcmurrys looks like a very good read.If I might make suggestion.http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/vogel3.html
Vogel's A Textbook of Practical Organic Chemistry 3rd edition.Because theres no school like old school.Written in 1956 you compounded precursors yourself without alot of fancy equipment.At any rate it was once suggested to me that this should be a cornerstone of one's library.I hope this helped,good luck

2nd post and I contributed already 8)

this is djvu format btw,if you want .pdf it is available with a little searching or I have it
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Re: Hey there SWIM, let me introduce myself.
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2012, 03:43:28 AM »
hey 4NS this is one of the ebooks I mentioned. I find it easier to read than many

http://www2.chemistry.msu.edu/faculty/reusch/VirtTxtJml/intro1.htm

There are quite a few good books for the beginner about practical labcraft  Salat mentioned a few somewhere!

I forget the name of the dude who wrote a book named Home Lab Survival Guide or something...but if its the one I recall it was pretty informative.

A number of titles are mentioned on several sites that are probably worth a look

Enjoy the reading amico
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2012, 10:25:07 PM »
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I forget the name of the dude who wrote a book named Home Lab Survival Guide or something.

how bout the organic chemistry laboratory survival guide by zubrick,sound right?
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Re: Hey there SWIM, let me introduce myself.
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2012, 01:14:38 PM »
I just really want to thank you all for reading tips and the kindness bearing up with me in the top of this thread.
Had taken closely to 30 zopiclone right before and then stupidly thought posting her were a brilliant idea, wont be doing that shit again before posting.

Also wanna thank for the absolutely amazing site of which i am now trying to discover and find my way around, although it is gonna be timeconsuming. Probably results with me remembering nada but that's what the search function are for.

Also did not present myself especially much, am closer to 40 then 30. Addict since almost 20y the first seven of which were exclusively devoted to heroin and benzo´s, Took a couple(like 8) years break then, worked,studied etc, before i fucked up again. But since i promised myself no more heroin ever i so now put the needle in my arm with amphetamine/meths. Which actually help me out since i was more or less in a psychosis because of the brillint idea to smoke weed my last year working......
Well that's a bit of my story, maybe a bit match....

Now i do not have the time to sit an gag with you all, i got reading to do, labgear to purchase.

Peace and out from 4studiesonly
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