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Perculating/Recirculating Apparatus for Larger Scale Cocaine Extraction
« on: September 11, 2012, 08:10:31 AM »
A long while back an old friend shared with me pictures and details of a project he underwent back then. He was extracting cocaine at the time. We can say he was one of the first ones to actually do it and get it right.

After many extractions he started getting sick of the tiring job of separating the kerosene from the leaf mulch and he developed a method involving percolation.

After a while again he was sick of having perform the acid base extraction from the cocaine enriched kerosene too, so he and another friend, with the collaboration of some other member from abroad, decided to design and build an apparatus that was performing the first steps for them.

Well it turn out they made it. The project has been unpublished for a long time but here it is:

Picture 1 below shows a diagram of the apparatus to automate the extraction process from the leaves and to also automate the extraction into the dilute H2SO4.

A percolator, in this case a beer fermenter, is filled with Coca leaves/tea mixed with water and sodium carbonate in the correct proportions as detailed elsewhere. Kerosene is poured on top and some weight is used to push the coca leaves down.

The kerosene flows from the percolator into a gas washing bottle that is used as water trap (in case any water comes down into the system from the percolator). The kerosene is pulled by a fuel pump though an inline fuel filter, then pushed into a dilute 5% H2SO4 phase inside a sep funnel using a gas dispersion tube with a filtrating disc at the bottom to atomize the the kerosene and aid a better extraction into the acid. The kerosene then collects floating at the top of the sep funnel and is pushed back into the percolator from the top opening. No emulsion forms in this apparatus.

Samples of the acid could be taken at any step by opening the sep funnel stop cock and weighting the amount of base generated by precipitating coca paste from a given measured sample. This was used to calculate roughly how long to let the circulation happen.

This process is basically scalable as much as one wants since there are no more shaking steps which could become complicated when working with bigger amounts of kerosene (like > 20L).

The other pictures (2 and 3) are pictures of the actual equipment used.



The fuel pump was turned on and the system was left circulating fro 12-24 hours. a few samples were taken in between. After this amount of time, the acidic water phase in the sep funnel was drained. It was clear brownish in color and it contained the alkaloids in higher yield then ever before. The process would then continue with the usual purification steps. The big difference was having to deal only with this small acidic solution while letting machines and gravity do the work on the big volumes of leaves and kerosene.

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Re: Perculating/Recirculating Apparatus for Larger Scale Cocaine Extraction
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2012, 09:33:02 AM »
This sure is a pretty major advancement for this process believe me.

Wonder if in a short while there will be these popping up out in the old peruvian and Colombian jungle labs :)


I like the idea of the atomiser for the kerosene before it hits the acid. This would seriously make the whole extraction process seriously efficient.

So would you think the running time will vary much with bigger runs e.g 20litres/30litres?


Thinking about Coca tea extractions makes swims dog need to go toilet. Hahaha
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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2012, 12:25:03 AM »
I will post shortly a run through of the percolation method from what I can remember of the process.


It is fairly straight forward and is the same principle as perculating coffee expect its Coca leafs and kerosene.

A five litre water bottle is used for the percolation device for a 1kg batch of Coca leaf.

It is Inverted and the bottom cut off. Making a small hole in the lid will allow a small tube or device to be Inserted to attach a form of stock cock to allow the flow of kerosene to be stopped at stated at will.

The Coca leaf that has been hydrated with H2O and sodium carbonate as described elsewhere is put into the bottle Inverted in a stand of some description. The 1kg is packed in such a way as not to compact it to much but enough of a space at the top to allow for a few inches of kerosene to puddle above the kerosene. A weight may be used to keep the lightly Compacted leaf down.

The stopcock is opened and kerosene is poured in a fashion to push all the air out of the system. Keep a pool above the leaf of kerosene as you flood the system. When kerosene comes out the tube after a few seconds shut the stopcock whilst still maintaining the kerosene pool at the top. This keeps air out the system. Keep filling. About a litre or so should be sufficient for the first run.

Leave to stand for a few hours. When draining, take note of the kero coming out whilst filling the system with another litre. Effectively pushing the other previous litre out. When a litre is received back close off the system making sure again no air is in the system by maintaining the pool above. Do this process once again and once more time. All alkaloids should be removed now.

So take the kero and make a 6% solution of sulfuric acid and mix a 30ml portion in a five litre of bottle intact filled with the kerosene extractions. Shake for around ten or fifteen mins on and off every min or so. Good hard shaking. Watch for emulsions.

Extract the acid and do another 30ml again and a 20ml finally.

Take the acid and oxidise with potassium permangamate in ice below 5 degree celcius then base with ammonia, clean with ether and filtering then crystalise to pearly heaven.


The best pearl you ever fucking seen. Swims dog thought this shit looked like molten liquid lead metal when filtering the final crystal storm.

If using ether to crystalise it is truly an amazing site. The snow storm is beautiful and the crystal growth is ridiculous.


Make sure one uses 37% hydrochloric acid if available otherwise yields will suffer

One kilo of peruvian Coca leaf yields 7g of unoxised unclean base. Around 4/4.5g un oxidised cocaine hydrochloride. 6gram to 5gram clean base. And around 3/3.7g of oxidised 99% pure cocaine hydrochloride.


An easy process with a beautiful outcome that costs so many lives and so much money without this process.

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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2012, 07:54:31 AM »
well done

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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2012, 11:37:46 AM »
very nice that pearly white is oh so pearly

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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2012, 03:01:17 AM »
Sounds  so beautifull that it´s impossible to don´t wanna try it! ::)great job!
  I was looking seriously on much articles about cocaine extraction from leaves  latelly,..and seems ,of course cocaine alkaloid it´s very special,and most important,chemical sensitive,..but .i don´t understand some things,as well:
1). Why it´s still Kerosene  the  reference non polar solvent to extract,?.:i can´t figure out why almost seems not exist any reference of people extracting with toluene,xylene,hexane,...I point  i don´t know at all those particularities about cocaine alkaloid,...but if the cocaine freebase it´s soluble on kerosene ,must be on most common NP solvents....i ask that because saw lot references of people using not very easy to get chemicals on next steps(like diethyl eter,chloroform,...)but seems people still extract the leaves with massive kerosene amounts,....¿it´s that a jungle reminiscence,.. ;)or really its one of the best solvents to extract).I can understand it´s use on ghetto situations, because not controled ,cheap and available solvent ,..but no so much when other cleaner solvents are available .....Important too....allways looking for maximum eficiency with minimal work.. :).....if from 1kg Leave flows around something like 5 gr. freebase or so,...¿¿why we need so massive solvent amount to extract??...If the freebase it´s ready on leaves surface,..my stupid common sense tolds me a minimum solvent amount,on 2 extractions.must be enough.....I never seen how bigger are 1 kg coca powder,..but 5 gr. freebase seems really easy solved on 500 ml Xylene on 2 extractions,.....PLEASE NOTICE I´M NEW TO THAT ALKALOID PROPERTIES....so possible i´m claiming no sense things,....
   That questions it´s mostly because seems a good lot work to do on beggining,

B: why it´s still the sodium carbonate the reference base to first basify the leaves to free cocaine freebase,?.:almost like kerosene questions,...¿it´s not easiier  to put the powder leaves on minimal  water and add drop wise not much concentrated Naoh solution until Ph reach something secure as Ph 10...I visualize easily a kitchen mixer pulverizing that mix,breaking all that cells from leaves,in contact with Naoh,..making freebase flow ,... eassier  that only macerate the mix with hands and carbonate,....I suposse more water involved are not good....a litttle more work to the solvent to extract,...i don´t know...and sure filtrate the powder first before extract with solvents ,and then make little wash of the powder....who knows?

C.Other steps sounds normal,...except that crystallization from coca base to hcl on ether and acetone+37 hcl,...If one was looking for yields,...sure add water to cristallization solvent will make suffer yields enough,....so i thnik´ possible that "ideal" crystallization way it´s to get that "classical pear flakes" that only best stuff can shown,....if not...it´s extrange anybody there talks about making some anydrous hcl gas and gas with it the ether,....or simplier disolve the freebase on alcohol,..neutralize with hcl or add equimolar quantities and let evaporate,....Like said,..i talk from   my ignorance here,...if all people seems to follow that ether-hcl 37%hcl system it´s because something,....Or simply the common recipe that works fine and nodoby tried to change much things on it?
  Preference kerosene use as solvent it´s the  one that makes me think that....

Pd:Saw yesterday  a documental about guetto extraction plants on Bolivia,...and ,along those "funny"  things well known ,like  workers rinsing their mouths with the kerosene to taste if the freebase it´s completly extracted,.. :o...an image of like one 16 years old boy doing the sulfuric acid solution,...taking with his fingers directly  from the bottle the last black pure sulfuric acid rests and stirring then with his hands the water,..was totally freaking! :o
   Saddest thing about it,.... those poor people ,working all day on nasty conditions,with more nasty drug police pression,killed often by black mafias to stole his  product,.....making kilos and kilos of the base stuff only to be able  to eat something with luck at the night,.. :-\ :-\

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Re: Perculating/Recirculating Apparatus for Larger Scale Cocaine Extraction
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2012, 08:22:10 AM »
A: Kerosene is cheap. I suppose toluene can be used but it's more costly where I live and makes much more smell. Making 2-3 extractions could be possible, but you would need more water also, since the leaves absorb a lot of water. The idea od this extraction is to have the leaves just moist and let the solvent flow through them. The solvent can be reused extraction after extraction.

B: Sodium Carbonate makes sure (like Potassium carbonate or Calcium carbonate) that you don't overshoot PH. I'd stay away from NaOH, since the Cocaine molecule is too sensitive.

C: Cocaine + Ether in Acetone + 37Hcl is indeed the "classic" recipe. In my friends multiple tests it was verified that better xtals showed up when HCl + Methanol was addeed to Acetone + Cocaine in the correct quantities. Gassing the solvent or working in anydrous conditions could be done and has been tried (adding HCl Gas in IPA to Cocaine base solution). The prpblem is that you end up with very fine xtals. You 'll need a rextallisation later on, which has never been attempted on the salt.

Here I show you some pictures taken by this old friend, showing the difference between Cocaine HCl from HCl Gas in IPA + ether and Cocaine HCl from Acetone + Methanol + HCl aq.

As you can see the anydrous one in more fluffy, the powder takes more volume while in the other the xtals are much better.

My old friend managed to rexstallise cocaine base in IPA before undergoing salting once and it worked well.

Dissolving said base in alcohol then neutralise and evaporate should work well. It needs to be evaporated very slowly though otherwise the compound tends to form an oil film instead of xtals.
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2012, 10:38:08 AM »
Fucking hell that brings back some memories.

Think I just nearly shit my pants when I saw them pics.


Ether is the superior solvent for xstallisation. The crystals are amazing. The process itself its great to you can see the reaction taking place and watch your crystals grow. And I'm talking big ass flakes. The best cocaine.


We also used the methanol method with success. The crystals were smaller though and more dusty.

1litre of ether will last for many extractions. Worth buying. :)

Make sure base is totally dry and cleaned to maximise chances of success. When you mix together and a red oil layer sinks to the bottom start crying and start again.

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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2012, 10:50:18 AM »
If an oil sinks to the bottom it means the cocaine is not pure enough to xtallise. The alkaloid mix needs to be oxidised better, to leave purer cocaine.

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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2012, 11:21:20 AM »
Ahhh, wondered for a while what it was. Never happened much but a few times it did and it was a pain in the arse to sort out. I guess whenever it oiled out then was the times we were sloppy and high on base most likely. And didn't oxidise. The cocaine is more like speed when done this way. No oxidising results in a weird amphetamine type high almost.


When you try the proper flake though you might not like it for what it really is. Real cocaine is nothing like it is on the streets. It's like gold compared to lead. I found it to be very very strong shit giving you a nice clean and clear high. But people often complained at the highly refined stuff that it didn't get them as fucked up as street coke. Making them understand it was all the other shit in their coke getting them fucked and not actually just the coke was hard work.

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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2012, 07:13:42 PM »
G`day ladys ......... I see bits about good crystals , small crystals , big crystals , better crystals , fine crystals and flakes . Are we claiming that the end form of cocaine hydrochloride makes a difference in the effect ? Or are we just fans of big pretty crystals ?



The lick your lips bit ------> I`ve seen crystals of coke that were not less than a centemeter in diameter .......

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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2012, 06:55:15 PM »
I'd love to read a bioassay of the final product (one pertaining to IV use).
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2012, 08:22:56 AM »
I did write some info back but the pc killed my message.

With the crystal the lines insuffulated you generally do get more wired as the flake is more fluffy so an equal sized line would in most cases do less. There isn't much difference between the two in effect if any at all. If there is I don't know what it is lol.

The flake is amazing to play with though and use. You feel like a real king when you open then empanada and chop up those pressed flat flakes. One has to do the crystallisation and final filtering and pressing in a particular fashion to achieve optimal product in crystal size purity and also appearance when dried and chopped. If pressed wrongly or too hard the flake may loose some of its beauty and flake structure. So as says David Lee in his fantastic book. Cocaine handbook.

The stuff is simply a charm to take. You feel absolutely NOTHING go up your nose. Literally fuck all. Just fresh air. Taste is sharp still on the tongue. The stuff melts between your fingers if one takes a small amount and rubs between finger and thumb. This is a good sign of purity with cocaine. When you know you've cooked your own batch anyhow.

Your entire face and neck go numb, roof of mouth and sometimes your fucking ears after a few minutes. Nose cheeks forehead. Haha its ridiculous sometimes. One only needs very small lines. Hospitalisation or death may occur ingesting large amounts in quick succession of this stuff. So bee careful.

The high of clean oxidised cocaine is great and second to none. True businessmans drug. No bad effects the next day what so ever. Often a feeling of revitalisation was felt after a heavy night. It feels like someone switched a light on in your head when this stuff hits your nasal passages. It's not to overly moreish either so a bag will and does last a while. Even between friends. You may even want to chop it up a little its that strong. But what the fuck is the point in that. Just take less.


A friend of ours had smoked a lot of weed and a few beers and didn't feel to good at all. On the verge of a whitey. We gave him a small bump on a key of the fresh flake an my guy was fucking bouncing off the walls. Pretty instantly all feelings of illness were gone and the whitey dissolved into the joy of the high of this amazing drug. I was pretty astounded!

So. Make some and see for yourself!
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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2012, 12:01:06 AM »
A felliw bee hooked me up with a good source for the tea.  My question is, what style of tea is better for extraction?  Powder or otherwise?  The source advertised 900g of powder and then a 0.29kg of tea.  Can anyone with experience answer this?  It's all kinda costly so SWIz doesn't wanna order the wrong thing.  Also, have any US bees ordered the tea?  I haven't read that it's illegal persay, but i'm not sure if coca alkaloids are illegal in the US or not.  I'll do some research, and if anyone wants to answer me then yay!
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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2012, 09:59:18 PM »
If your talking about coca tea made from active coca leaves its readily available in holland in tea bags . One bag in a cup and some hot water on top and one has a nice morning .

From my experience extracting plant material its better to powder it as small as possible as i think the bigger the surface area is the better the extraction is . Plus putting it in water and freezing it to -20°C and thawing it a few times does it good to because it breaks the cell walls . 

EDIT - The bigger the surface area between the basic water / plant material and the solvent on top the more eficient / faster / better the base coke is going to go over into the solvent .

Another thing is that if the water plant material is moveing the better the transfer of alkaloids to the solvent . <----- Again = bigger surface area .


Something else -----> when we extract plant material we dont shake it we swirl it as shaking it tends more to makeing emulsions than swirling . Water plus fats and slime plus air bubbles = shaken = emulsion .
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« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2012, 09:17:26 AM »
A 500g batch of powdered leaf was extracted once via the manual percolation technique. It was an almighty pain in the arse. It compacts and doesn't allow the kerosene to perculate through easily. The gains of powdering it and using a different method adds more effort to a simple high yielding system.

Use the leafs just crushes up and not a fine dust and you will have a much easier time.
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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2012, 04:33:39 PM »
I think this thread needs some information about oxidisation of the extracted alkaloid to yield only the cocaine alkaloid.

The use of potassium permangamate is required. A mag stirrer is help ful but not required. The process is quite delicate and requires some practice to get it perfect. Too little and the coke has that speedy edge whereas too much and you impact the yield. A well ran oxisiadation on a 900g batch of tea should produce around 3.5g of 99% pure cocaine alkaloid.

The process is simple and just requires patience. Slow small additions of the oxidising solution is added with vigorous stirring manually or mechanically. The process can generally take around an hour to complete with a standard 900g batch of tea extract.

Good filters are required afterwards and preferably fluted. The look on your face when you filter the thick red smelly sludge through the paper to see a redish pink sulfuric acid solution slowly within the space of 5mins turn perfectly clear like water.

This bee a good sign. One now should baseify the liquid with household ammonia to reveal a almost pearlescent base powder cocaine. This is weighed when fully dry. Then is is dissolved in an amount of ether. Around 20 to 30ml a gram. You will see any undisolvable shite pool into a blob in the bottom. Filter and dry shite. Weigh amount of shite to determine amount of pure cocaine suspended in liquid. Now crystalise.
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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2012, 08:32:10 PM »
I had to post about my experience doing that extraction! :D
 First,if one works with teab bags,call a friend,...or too...because opening the bags it´s absolutly a pain!
  Part about basifying with sodium carbonate it´s easy,...i make the extraction from 1 Kg with a mixture of 1 litre xylene and 1 litre Dcm ,because some accident about solvents,...so the mix was 2 nights with ,i think,not enough stirring because job,..that i think finally impacted yield.
  Since i use that mix of xylene and DCM,that read it´s the most near to cloroform,that´s seems one of the best solvents to extract alkaloids on reference,...i had to let evaporate the dcm first to avoid emulsions on the acid extraction.
   I extracted with hcl solution,because was lazy to handel pure sulfuric,...i think didnñt matters..who knows...Made 3 extractions with 5%hcl with final volume about 100 ml acid.
  Since a was little afraid about how was going,...i went acroos the paste,basifying with sodium carbonate to get incial yields,.and got like 4´5 grams paste,..so i thinked i screweed a little,..but was enough..The paste precipitates as a gummy solid hard to get,so little time on frige make consistency more hard and easy to get,.
  The oxidizing part it´s tricky sure.I started with 1 ml adittions each 5-10 minutes,...and acroos the time,the solution was getting so brown it´s hard to see when oxidation it´s complete.I made like 8-9 adittions,...and seems it´s imporat let solution decant to see if the liquid it´s clear,Mine was,...so on worst ,i oxidize not enough,i doubt,because finall liquid was clear.
  I finally get like 3 grams pure base,...since i didn´t have amonia that moment,had to basify with sodium carbonate solution,so posibly not the best,...but was that way.
  I cristallized one gram base usinng acetone+metanol:hcl(2:1)..following instructions on David Lee Handbook,that are really great.
  Basically 1 gram base disolved on 10 ml acetone,filtered and rinsed until 20 ml volumen,...and measured 0,75 ml of methanol:hcl solution,and added 10 ml acetone.
  2 beaks swirled at same time and movement...and added folowing the funny "critical" way of do the thing.
   Cristallization was slow,and until 3-4 minutes anything happened.Then very tinny crystals stared to fall...looks awsome,..and after some swirling and more,...about 2 hours seemed all fisnished.
  Rinsed with acetone,...made the empanada,...dried....0,75 grams absolutly beatifull iridiscent pearl!.
  I have diethyl ether waiting to use,but i so afraid about it´s risk using it,..that i will stick with acetone.
  Of course,if results are better,who knows.
  I too let evaporate final acetone solution to see if more was into,...because possibly hcl was not enough,because the so slow reaction.
  Buy job done!

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« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2012, 02:54:33 AM »
COMPLETELY (somewhat) OFF TOPIC POST:

I have asked this elsewhere, but noone could answer.  Has anyone attempted to IV the product made from this extraction?  If so, and to keep the thread on topic, pm me answers if they are available.  Gotta know before i order a bunch of tea.
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« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2012, 10:06:24 AM »
Ether is great. Very visual. Instant fizzing reaction then huge crystals forming. Leave for a while and they grow up side of beaker. Its fucking amazing.


Store ether with copper wire it stops peroxides. I found various ways and information for u sassa. I will find and post.

We were very uneducated when we had our ether. It was simply stored in a dark place in an amber bottle. 500ml of it. For good few months. On and off useage. Just always pour from bottle and dont have it open to long. Use a proper atroage bottle as it can creep out. We never had any issues with it just a lot of fun getting high when not using it for xrystalising and cleaning base.

Are you say you have gotten 3g pure clean oxidised base but have only crystalised 1g so far?

If so, you have done a good job!!
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