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citrates and tartrates of mdma reputedly twice as potent
« on: November 05, 2009, 11:03:31 PM »
anybody ever do this?
swij did very hard to crystallize, the high is more psychedelic lasts longer it's kind of like this it's less speedy but you get awed by music and colors i mean awed like "wow that's way cool", anybody fuck with mdma citrates?
one time swij probably ate around 1.3 grams of it all at once was rolling 24 hours straight, just getting stupid.

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Re: citrates and tartrates of mdma reputedly twice as potent
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2009, 11:26:07 PM »
Does anyone have information on the bioavalibilty of various amphetamine salts? This is truely an interesting topic and the reasoning of it should be brought to light so that one could get the most bang for there buck so to speak. I personaly hate to see good psychoactive substances wasted but here a way so that much more is achieve thru less use of a substance which means toxic metabolytes may not build in ones system as bad.
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Re: citrates and tartrates of mdma reputedly twice as potent
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2009, 11:58:35 PM »
i like the hydrochlorides and acetates because they hit fast and hard this is different though come on is slower but you find yourself rolling for a minute and i mean a while if you use a forklift to eat x that is.
a typical dose would last around 6 hours and it has less of that coke feeling you get when you just snorted pile of hydrochloride salt.
open up windows media player and trip on the fractals kind of xtc if you catch my drift.

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Re: citrates and tartrates of mdma reputedly twice as potent
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2009, 12:02:01 AM »
You have had experiance with the Citrate salt?

Would you mind posting a coherent Bioessay report compairing it to the normal HCl salt...

LOL Notice I said coherent Jon.. Please try with this one can ya ;D. The desired formate for Bioassays is posted in the forum as a sticky BTW.
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Re: citrates and tartrates of mdma reputedly twice as potent
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2009, 12:05:34 AM »
sure i'll get around to it, it's just like i said more trippy slow comeon after the trip is gone you find yourself speeding again like scrubing the place from wall to wall but that was maybe 13 doses so that will get your goat, it lasts longer too.
like the next day fucking stupid man still rolling i thought maybe that was too much.
and when i say stupid i mean brain fucked can't form words stuttering can't think. straight up etarded
« Last Edit: November 06, 2009, 01:24:21 AM by jon »

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Re: citrates and tartrates of mdma reputedly twice as potent
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2009, 06:10:49 PM »
how would one extract tartaric acid from cream of tartar?  google says cream of tartar contains tartaric acid + potassium hydroxide so i was thinking strip the tartaric with alcohol but then I found out potassium hydroxide is also soluble in alcohols so im stumped... (nvm found tartaric acid is soluble in ether ^_^;)
also would the md phenethylamine salts be able to be salted with fumaric acid?  fumerates give the prettiest crystals...
« Last Edit: December 14, 2009, 06:21:18 PM by ribbit »

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Re: citrates and tartrates of mdma reputedly twice as potent
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2009, 07:00:52 PM »
Quote from: ribbit on December 14, 2009, 06:10:49 PM
also would the md phenethylamine salts be able to be salted with fumaric acid?  fumerates give the prettiest crystals...

Should be possible...
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Re: citrates and tartrates of mdma reputedly twice as potent
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2010, 03:24:14 PM »
Dude, your usage places you out of the realm of providing any sort of anecdotal experience. :)

Quote from: jon on November 06, 2009, 12:05:34 AM
sure i'll get around to it, it's just like i said more trippy slow comeon after the trip is gone you find yourself speeding again like scrubing the place from wall to wall but that was maybe 13 doses so that will get your goat, it lasts longer too.
like the next day fucking stupid man still rolling i thought maybe that was too much.
and when i say stupid i mean brain fucked can't form words stuttering can't think. straight up etarded
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