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Extraction - Sigma Endone (Oxycontin 5mg)
« on: November 19, 2009, 06:47:15 AM »
Righto, I'm finding fuck all on this so I'll do it myself

Lactose
Stearic Acid
Microcrystalline Cellulose

Ok,

Stearic acid is soluble in
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Re: Extraction - Sigma Endone (Oxycontin 5mg)
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2009, 04:54:13 AM »
 i think i might be inclined to look at what the 5mg dissolve in but man thems mighty small bits all things considered--lots o filler :( but dont let me stop you no1 i wish you success 8)
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Re: Extraction - Sigma Endone (Oxycontin 5mg)
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2009, 11:59:30 AM »
when ur done react with prop anhydride and catalytic naacetate 20 hrs you get 14 ester and enol ester a diester probably a real ass kicker.
check your pm i just showed where the oc 80's are at more to come i feel your pain i'm gonna help ya burns are the worst!
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Re: Extraction - Sigma Endone (Oxycontin 5mg)
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2009, 09:44:05 AM »
Just want to wack 'em.... ;)

Quick wash with a dry NP will remove the wax (stearic acid), leaving the lactose/cellulose/oxy mix... If I had the time the patience or the amount of product required I could probably work out something nicer, but like I say, I just want a wack (bad flashbacks - I was on fire ffs)
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Re: Extraction - Sigma Endone (Oxycontin 5mg)
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2010, 03:34:35 AM »
I thought grabbing a 20ml barrel, and adding the pills w water, but before, placing a wad of cotton wool and poking it down, and then filling w the white soup and push the plunger, and out pops crystal clear endone(morphine) HCl. Ivew seen it done, but then you need a small gauge needle, that fits a 20 ml mother fucker, or just evaportate to just above saturation and use what you have to. This of course only applies to endone, and ozycontin in its variety of strengths. MS CONTIN, is a no go, as the tabs are colored and with the addition of water, the fillers turn it into goo. ENDONE< and oxycontin, post getting their color of, different color for different strengths of oxycontin only, NOT ENDONE< AS ENDONE IS A WHITE breakable tab, and easily disolves in water, and has no goo type properties. THIS IS IN AUS ANYWAY>   

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Re: Extraction - Sigma Endone (Oxycontin 5mg)
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2010, 04:55:14 AM »
yo no1 IIRC endone is oxycodone hcl (not morphine hcl ziggy--and MScontin are morphine sulphate)  I know here in oz you can get "wheel filters" that remove insoluables-they come in a variety of filtering 'sizes'-google "wheel filters' and you'll get the idea-,,,

check out  http://www.directionsact.com/node/1245"

-that said,,,i personally find oxycodone reasonably soluable in water--what 'sink'(someone i never knew ::)) would do with 5mg 'endone' is crush into a fine powder,,add about 0.3ml per pill (maybe put them in a small jar or test tube that you can shake) e.g 10 pill and 3ml of water,,then heat gently until fairly hot but < 80c--(you could use already hot water) leave it stand for 5 mins, then put the mix into a spoon (dont worry about the 'sludge' thats all it will be, about  85% of the OC should be in solution by this stage),,then wack a fair sized~1cc of cotton wool-wet it first- into the spoon,,and use the syringe WITHOUT a needle to suck up the solution into a 3-5ml syringe--then,,if you have a wheel filter,,you attatch it to the end of the syringe and PUSH the solution through it (dont do what MANY have and tried to SUCK it up thru d filter) and it will be clear as water--if no wheel filter,,rrepeat the cotton wool phase 2 or 3 times,,the last time with the needle on it,,,and enjoy :D
please take care of yourself/veins etc--pm me if you want more details
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Re: Extraction - Sigma Endone (Oxycontin 5mg)
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2010, 04:10:54 AM »
Hypnos, ive heard of those wheel filters, yet asked someone who I thought would know in my local area, and he gave me the blank, WTF glance, and that was that. You are obviously correct in the endone not being morphine, but I knew what I meant as it does have the basic morphine structure, which plays little to someone who perhaps is in chronic/acute pain, has got endone, and want'to relieve the suffering. I think we both agreed that endone is soluble in water. Ive seen someone try to crush up, what is called IIRC a grey nurse (MSContin 100mg), and the thing turning into a goo. but that wheel filter pdf, says it can be. Not a regular thing for he, and this is a change in times. Harm minimization is surely a good thing. God I remember some time back, the hassle to get the thing to do the thing. Vet supply, or IM an artist, who gets terrific effects, with the thingo.A syringe back then was like gold, no wonder hep C is out of control, Now, they've even got a service, that you can ring up. 24/7, and some dude will rock up and give you as many fits/swob water etc, as you want. and I dare say these wheel filters also.
I tell you, ever since I did some microbiology studies, and learnt abit about bacteria and viruses, and looked at how many people, he included way back, go about doing the deed. MY god, It shows you, just how good the immune system is and just how potentially life saving the wheel filters may be, Do you know if they filter bacteria, Ive heard that their is a pore size, or some surface structure that can, but maybe I am mistaken, but I didn't see it in the brochure. Anyway, great that you posted the link, as people who can obtain these items, should no about it, IMO
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Re: Extraction - Sigma Endone (Oxycontin 5mg)
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2010, 01:52:39 AM »
g'day ziggy thanx for the feeedback--ok,,in oz most NSP's(needle and syringe programs) would be able to point you towards suppliers of these filters--i suppose medical and/or scientific supplies would have them--they come in a variety of 'sizes' IIRC the red ones filter to about 12microns and the yellow ones even more,,and i believe they do filter out many,if not most/all bacteria,,but i'm nor sure about viruses--that said--DONT SHARE SHIT with anyone--hep c is very virulent and quite tough so it can(and does!) live 'outside' the body for some time-i'm not sure how long but definately a few hours,unlike HIV which dies quick smart when removed from its 'host'
 sharing water(a glass or ampoule of) and torniquets is a major source of transmission for hep c

btw ms contin have a rather different mix of 'binders' and need to be crushed as fine as possible then mixed with (at least) 1ml per 100mg pill then heated slowly until most/all of the 'stuff' has either dissolved or floated to the top leaving a clear solution below--DO NOT BOIL them coz this will cause the 'wax' to go into the solution--which WILL cause it to go 'gooey and gluggy'(and very bad/dangerous to inject) so avoid heating fast or too hot (try to stay below 90c morphine degrades at temps of this and more)
once again,, when you feel you have dissolved as much as possible(if done correctly,,a 'grey' should leave about a 2cm(max) circle of 'wax' floating on the top of the solution-which you can scrape most of it off with a spoon)--then use a big ( the size of a cigarette filter) wound chunk of cotton wool you have pre wet and put it into the mix and suck up the solution without a needle first--then repeat the steps as with the endone--wheel filters will give you a perfectly clear solution--however it should be possible to obtain a very clean solution just by NOT BOILING the mix and using cotton wool
pm me if you need any clarification re; the above
 ps.if you are going to use 'large' syringes i.e. < 1ml using a 'butterfly' needle(26g) will give you greater control with what you're doing and will probably be kinder to your veins 8)
 take care,,and enjoy ;D
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Re: Extraction - Sigma Endone (Oxycontin 5mg)
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2010, 06:06:17 AM »
19G / 5mL is perfect for 100mg 'greys', if you filter while hot, you will end up with pericarditis which is distinctive to the use of MS Contin type tablets (the 'usual' pill user heart problem is endocarditis which is an infection on the inside of the heart) whereas pericarditis in this instance comes from the gunk falling out of your bloodstream/solution as it cools to 36'C (body temp??) and coating the pericardium with a combination of gunk and nasty fucking infective crud.

It feels like someone has opened your rib-cage with a star-picket and is levering it apart, I know, I've been there. It is often misdiagnosed as a heart-attack and is essentially the same internally, the heart has expanded to the extent that it finds it increasingly difficult to beat, thus it tends to pause and/or stop, which is anything but painless.

Cottons should be treated with respect (said with 20/20 hindsight, ignore it if you please), the only morphine sulfate pills that are directly injectable are the anamorphine sulfate 30mg's (just load them in the barrel, pull up some water - fyi, 30mg of morphine sulfate is soluble in approx 1mL of water, 5 ana's = 5mL), then put your finger over the end of the barrel (without the tip on) and either press or pull back, either way they dissolve in seconds no shaking needed (I've only ever had one barrel explode, with my dose spread over the entirety of the KFC toilet :'(, roof, walls, floor & me).

I remember seeing SWINO1UNO doing up a simple solution to removing morphine sulfate in a semi-pure form from MS Contins (after picking off the coating) using hot&cold alcohol and then hot&cold water at one point. Have a look around, I remember posting it, probably @WD. Can't remember the username, try some clown called loose_e (found it):

Right, the official contents of MS CONTIN® are as detailed on the official website:
http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/ms.htm

MS CONTIN® Controlled-release Tablets 15 mg, 30 mg, 60 mg, 100 mg, and 200 mg contain the following inactive ingredients: cetostearyl alcohol, hydroxyethyl cellulose, hypromellose, magnesium stearate, polyethylene glycol, talc and titanium dioxide.

MS CONTIN® Controlled-release Tablets 15 mg also contains FD&C Blue No. 2,lactose and polysorbate 80.

MS CONTIN® Controlled-release Tablets 30 mg also contains D&C Red No. 7, FD&C Blue No. 1, lactose and polysorbate 80.

MS CONTIN® Controlled-release Tablets 60 mg also contains D&C Red No. 30, D&C Yellow No. 10, hydroxypropyl cellulose, and lactose.

MS CONTIN® Controlled-release Tablets 100 mg also contains black iron oxide.

MS CONTIN® Controlled-release Tablets 200 mg also contains D&C Yellow No. 10, FD&C Blue No. 1, and hydroxypropyl cellulose

The contents of the pills is therefore: (1) Cetostearyl Alcohol, (2) Hydroxyethyl cellulose, (3) Hypromellose, (4) Iron Oxide, (5) Lactose, (6) Magnesium Stearate, (7) Morphine Sulphate, (Cool Polyethylene Glycol, (9) Polysorbate 80, (10) Talcum Powder & (11) Titanium Dioxide

Hot Water
Soluble
(1) Cetostearyl Alcohol, (2) Hydroxyethyl cellulose, (5) Lactose, (7) Morphine Sulphate, (Cool Polyethylene Glycol & (9) Polysorbate 80.

Insoluble
(3) Hypromellose, (4) Iron Oxide, (6) Magnesium Stearate, (10) Talcum Powder & (11) Titanium Dioxide.

Cold Water
Soluble
(5) Lactose, (7) Morphine Sulphate, (Cool Polyethylene glycol & (9) Polysorbate 80.

Insoluble
(1) Cetostearyl Alcohol & (2) Hydroxyethyl cellulose.

Cold Alcohol
Soluble
(Cool Polyethylene glycol & (9) Polysorbate 80

Insoluble
(5) Lactose & (7) Morphine Sulphate

Hot Alcohol
Soluble
(7) Morphine (slightly)

Insoluble
(5) Lactose

The principles through which a compound is able to be separated from a number of other compounds are basically derived from the variable solubilities of most compounds. In this instance, we can separate either via removing the target compound from the insolubles in a certain solvent via dissolving it, or via the removal of soluble contaminants whilst leaving the insoluble target compound.

In this case, the most important point is the fact that fully half (3, 4, 6, 10 & 11) of the contaminants in MS CONTIN® are insoluble in hot water (near boiling point), whilst at least two others (1 & 2) are, despite being at least moderately soluble in hot water, utterly insoluble in cold (near freezing) water.

Now, having removed 6/10 contaminants (1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 10 & 11) we need a solvent in which we could separate Morphine Sulfate Pentahydrate from the remaining 4. In this instance I have chosen to use anhydrous ethanol, as it is cheap, widely available and easily prepared from OTC ingredients (Bake MgSO4 – Epsom Salts for 2 hours at 150C then absorb the water from Denatured Alcohol). Washing the dried filtrate of the second, cold-water wash with a minimal amount of cold, dry ethanol will remove both the polyethylene glycol and the Polysorbate 80 (8 & 9). Thus, we have removed everything (1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10 & 11) but the lactose (5) and the morphine sulfate (7) from the tablet mix. As morphine sulfate is slightly soluble in hot alcohol and lactose is utterly insoluble in hot ethanol, the separation of these two is rather simple.

For those who wish to be spoonfed (and face it, not many people would want to go through the hassle of cleaning these fuckers if they didn't like spoons[:-yes]), here we go

Carfully peel the required number of MS Contin (R) tablets.

Crush said tablets to a fine powder

Dissolve said tablets in hot, just boiled water.

Filter and suck into a large syringe whilst hot

While hot put into another spoon and allow to cool.

Filter when cool (around 4C - put it in the fridge)

Put into another container and allow to dry.

Add cold, dry denatured alcohol & allow to sit for 5-10 minutes, stir and draw liquid off through a filter

Add more clean, dry alcohol to the spoon, heat to around 60C, draw off liquid through a filter.

Pour liquid into another container and allow to dry.

When the alcohol has evaporated collect the crystals - this will be pure morphine sulfate.

Now, given the crap that is in these, don't discard the filtrates until they have been washed several times, include all washes in the subsequent processing. A better way to dry alcohol is via CaO.
« Last Edit: March 15, 2010, 06:14:53 AM by no1uno »
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Re: Extraction - Sigma Endone (Oxycontin 5mg)
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2010, 02:56:12 AM »
Well that spoon fed me well ;D. Great information.and btw, the time it turned to goo, he had the good sense to go FUCK IT< and put it down the hatch. Looks like a wise decision.
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