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shroomedalice

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Re: I've lost all hope...
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2009, 03:02:00 AM »
I think the key is to do it in small amounts and aquire your reagents slowly.

this way if you do get caught its only on one batch of 50 or so pills and looks more
credable that you are not useing it for synthesis.

if go the whole wack in one go then I think your asking for it.

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Re: I've lost all hope...
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2009, 04:07:09 PM »
Well... If the clavines could be used, then there a number of syntheses available for them which don't use Li (IIRC)
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Re: I've lost all hope...
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2009, 06:27:30 PM »
you'd be suprized what gets through customs especially this time of year.
i've personally orderd several hundred pills in one order i never had a package snagged by customs i think you are a litlle too paranoid.

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Re: I've lost all hope...
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2009, 03:07:39 AM »
This comming from the guy that thinks any new dog or cat in the neighborhood has been fitted with tracking devices and hidden cameras just to spy on him.
There once were some bees and you took all there stuff!
You pissed off the wasp now enough is enough!!!

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Re: I've lost all hope...
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2009, 03:30:07 AM »
I killed my dog for being a dog :)
ye my cat was working for the DEA too smart little fucker.
and it still wanted to be fed when I found out.

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Re: I've lost all hope...
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2009, 07:20:34 PM »
never had a problem with custom greese the palms of an import broker and things happen!!!

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Re: I've lost all hope...
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2009, 07:22:13 PM »
this thread is starting to border on hillarity!

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Re: I've lost all hope...
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2009, 02:43:35 AM »
well ask the question were can I get acid ingredients and ......

yo get the trippas on board.

oh a short update my cat has left me for the pig next door.

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Re: I've lost all hope...
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2010, 02:04:39 PM »

Heisenberg: don't push this thread backward with doubt and complaining about the difficulty of getting lysergic amides.

As German said, You can isolate LSA From HBWR cheaply. Also ergotamine tartrate can be bought online as Jon said.

JohnSanders: I am very sorry to hear of you loosing money on bad vendors. Please don't loose hope in making LSD. I beleive that
we need people out there to generate this kind of energy. LSD is a high frequency, high precision biogenetic tool - and we can
really help people with it.

Here's some pointers which I beleive will make it easier for you to get to end result:

1) Hydrazine can be made from urea and sodium hypochlorite (bleach)
2) LSA Can be isolated with chromatography, but you'll need a column.
4) Diethylamine from DEET insect spray by distillation.
5) LSA can be modified into LSD by reaction of the hydro salt with diethylamine.
6) The reaction takes place at 0*C in low-light environment
(in a freezer) and is anhydrous. (you might need some MgSO4)

don't give up hope!

Curse the bastard who ripped you off for paspaltic acid,
and praise you sir, for having the balls to order some of that stuff! (ITS HOT)

If a few of us put our brains together we can figure it out, OR we allready know
how to do this!

PM me and we can discuss this further!

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Re: I've lost all hope...
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2010, 04:59:21 AM »
yeah let you nuts hang that's the only way to do this shit and don't be scared! paranoia is no good jon has ordered many a hot potatoes and is still jibbing here.
the boggie men only know what they know and that's it

shroomedalice

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Re: I've lost all hope...
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2010, 01:47:49 AM »
if I were to think of making LSx I would think about HBWR and start looking into getting realy realy nice gear for growing
and doing rotavap and chormatography.

truly too damb easy realy buy the stuff is just a bandaid wiating to be torn off.

I worked it out that you get the same amount of acid per gram of HBWR as you would perpurea as ergotamine has
a lot of waisted weight when you cut the excess molecule off the LSA :)

only prob then is how ya goen to get your LSA pure enough to get the reactions to work.

also dont make hydrazine with hypochlorite use TCCA.

look into alkoxides for making this anhydrous and you wont get the chirality all screwed up.

check the diff betweed reaction times in alc over pure curtius reactions :)

dont make your ethyl amine from DEET do it the origonal way with bromoethane just
make sure you fraction your stuff with a nice long collumn.

nitrite can be made many ways just remeber that dry is the rule of thumb.

and the reaction that say dont use inert gass  use it anyway.

red light red light red light damb it when can I fucking go.

bang fucking tree what yo doen in the middle of the road oh I must
be in the uk singing with the merry men now were is that litte fat man
I want a drink for me cat now.

damb it why give it away any one who does fucking 3 years uni will work it out
 in time for fucks sakes earn it for once.

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Re: I've lost all hope...
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2010, 02:09:25 AM »
only prob then is how ya goen to get your LSA pure enough to get the reactions to work.

answer you don't look into elymoclavines and ye shall soon see why.
just buy the damn ergotamine the chinnese could give two shits what your doing with it.
same with india.

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Re: I've lost all hope...
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2010, 03:37:51 AM »
The only viable way of getting a LSD precursor would be to purchase it. You best chance would be a shady foreign pharmaceutical supplier.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2010, 06:02:39 AM by crazyboy »

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Re: I've lost all hope...
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2010, 09:26:02 AM »
that or fosters beer ;D

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Re: I've lost all hope...
« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2010, 11:35:53 PM »
This might help? Download Psychedelic Shamanism.pdf from ebooks here http://wizardx.4shared.com Read chapter 8.
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shroomedalice

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Re: I've lost all hope...
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2010, 05:14:09 AM »
elymoclavine wont crystalize as the hydrazide as LSA will.

so you sep the two after chromatography by forming the hydrazide then crystallizing.
which to my knowllage gives a very pure substance.

still I would want to chromatograph the extract before starting in on the synthesis.

I belive that hydrazine hydrate will work as well but you get l-lsd and l-iso-lsd as well
as the d counterparts. so I would make sure that I have a very dry extract that has been
chromatographed.

the other problem is getting your wood rose to flower if your in cold climates.

not many that have reported there findings on the web have had success with this.

the wood rose needs a very deep root to start to flower and also sub tropical conditions.

green house is a must.

« Last Edit: January 08, 2010, 01:01:19 PM by shroomedalice »

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Re: I've lost all hope...
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2010, 12:53:45 AM »
my grandfather drank fosters jon :)

I hate the stuff prefure carlton or dutch beer.

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Re: I've lost all hope...
« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2010, 06:00:17 AM »
i'm too high to reply intellegently
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Re: I've lost all hope...
« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2010, 09:43:42 PM »
Here is a relatively recent lysergic acid total synthesis which I found. I couldn't find it mentioned on the forum so I'll post it. Hope it helps someone!

Total Synthesis of (±)-Lysergic Acid, Lysergol, and Isolysergol by Palladium-Catalyzed Domino Cyclization of Amino Allenes Bearing a Bromoindolyl Group

Shinsuke Inuki, Shinya Oishi, Nobutaka Fujii* and Hiroaki Ohno*
Graduate School of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Kyoto University, Sakyo-ku, Kyoto 606-8501, Japan
Org. Lett., 2008, 10 (22), pp 5239–5242
DOI: 10.1021/ol8022648

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Re: I've lost all hope...
« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2010, 07:25:18 PM »
does anyone know how much alkaloid in mg's there is in 1 sclerotia, approximately? 

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Samples originated from across southern Australia. Ergotamine was the dominant alkaloid in all samples, followed by ?-ergocryptine, ergocornine, ergosine and their respective -imine epimers. Ergotamine concentrations in sclerotia ranged up to 2257 mg/kg (as received basis). Ergocristine was a very minor component (<50 mg/kg) in all samples. Total alkaloids in freshly collected sclerotia ranged from 1003 to 3321 mg/kg (0.10 to 0.33%), and up to 3766 mg/kg with epimers included, although lower concentrations were found in samples stored for some time. Alkaloid profiles in sclerotia were all very similar, and concentrations did not appear to be related to size of sclerotia, source region, nor to the rye grass or grain from which they were taken.

WOW!!! Thats over 2 GRAMS per kilo!!! :o considering separation shouldn't be that difficult, thats gotta have potential!!! :-\
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