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poppy tea
« on: February 28, 2010, 05:06:34 AM »
two medium pods with less alkaloid coloration than we would like....
were cut with scissors and then put into a coffee bean grinder..

then brought up to a low boil in a coffee cups worth of water an lemon juice and reduced to simmer for 30 minutes..

the intent of the lemon juice was to to salt the base alkaloids to citrate s

a Gatorade jug was then use to filter by pouring the still warm contents of the pan into it, then

cutting a circle from a clean bed sheet and wiring it tight over the opening then simply
flipping the thing over and squeezing the extract out into a waiting coffee cup..

it was sweetened with a teaspoon of mannitol
with the intention being two part:

to somewhat counter act the constipating efects of the opiates, as mannitol is a baby laxative

and second to aid in drug delivery; because, mannitol temporarily shrinks cells in the brains BBB (blood brain barrier) opening bigger holes for the drug to pass through..



On Bio-Assessment I would have to estimate 100 milligrams of mixed opiates were successfully harnessed for use..

at about $2.25 cost

I would like to find better pods with hopefully twice the opiates..

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Re: poppy tea
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2010, 04:58:01 AM »
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and second to aid in drug delivery; because, mannitol temporarily shrinks cells in the brains BBB (blood brain barrier) opening bigger holes for the drug to pass through..

Is that how it works? I'd love to see some data or a study on that stuff. I know it plays a roll in the BBB and all, but I've never have seen or known why.
Also, it is orally active? :O
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2010, 02:04:39 AM »
Mannitol does indeed open the BBB by shrinking endothelial cells in the BBB. I've attached a pdf that explains manntiols use to open the BBB. The target audience for the pdf is chemotherapy patients who are going to receive mannitol as part of treatment. I doubt that oral mannitol is capable of opening the BBB even if it was a large dose. Everything I've read about always talks about IV use.

IV mannitol with recreational drugs talk just seems a little too risky for me. Who knows what else could cross your BBB with the drugs? Also, mannitol doesn't just open the BBB, it opens the Blood Ocular Barrier as well as the barriers to many organs.

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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2010, 03:13:06 AM »
Thank you very much for the pdf! I'll be sure to check it out more. I'm sure it is very dangerous to inject and use with impure substances, but it is still very interesting and who knows, it might lead to great things. Considering all of the drugs that could exist if they did pass the BBB.
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2010, 02:08:10 AM »
poppy tea good.
the best poppy aside from the taz's are the arizona purples a taz strain.
the way to tell you got good poopy is to look at the photos the more dark splotches the more morphine.
the dark spots are opium ooozzing out.
this tip will save you $$$

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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2010, 01:39:14 AM »
Mannitol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Mannitol

mannitol is how beebo(moose whatever) discovered that loperimide was a GOODIE !

That Crazy bee took oral Mannitol:
like a teaspoon 45 minutes in advance to IV'ing a loperimide extraction..

BOOM the mannitol allowed the lope in !
and it was like good Heroin.

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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2010, 07:18:13 AM »
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That Crazy bee took oral Mannitol:
like a teaspoon 45 minutes in advance to IV'ing a loperimide extraction..

Well, if mannitol works orally -- any wouldn't loperamide + mannitol work orally as well? Clearly orally the loperamide gets into the blood stream right? But it just can't pass the blood brain barrier? -- or am I not understanding something correctly?
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2010, 12:43:57 AM »
everything i read pointed to IV as well.  i wish it did work orally so i could try the combo with loperamide since i don't IV

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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2010, 03:37:15 AM »
I was thinking a law suit without any warning about it interacting with artificial sweeteners :D
Sounds like some how some money might be in that eh?

Just kidding -- but it does make sense to me that if don't need to inject the Mannitol or Xylitol, etc why on earth would you then need to inject the other?
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2010, 09:46:02 PM »
why the IV worked

and why oral doesn't

the lope HCl isn't water soluble; so definitely no rushes,, like what moose observed

moose was doing dangerous stuff
he dissolved the lope in alcohol and shot it up; that's what worked to floor him..

It also collapsed all of his veins..
it's been a year and 3\4 of them are half way back

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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2010, 10:33:42 PM »
Was it you on WD that used methanol? I read that recently, but did not pay attention to the username, could easily be someone else.


Are you saying that it doesn't work orally because it is not water soluble?
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Re: poppy tea
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2010, 02:24:06 AM »
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and second to aid in drug delivery; because, mannitol temporarily shrinks cells in the brains BBB (blood brain barrier) opening bigger holes for the drug to pass through..

Is that how it works? I'd love to see some data or a study on that stuff. I know it plays a roll in the BBB and all, but I've never have seen or known why.
Also, it is orally active? :O

Mannitol causes reverse osmosis in the stomach an intestinse leading to a laxitive effect. Instead of the basic data as "opening bigger holes" could we perhaps start getting into what exactly is going on here in the aid of finding alternative means. Because opening holes is not what happens since the body rarely contain "holes". What I do picture is opening of some sort of protien structure ment to normaly discriminate but there is the chance that I am wrong and it is just a hypothesis.
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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2010, 03:17:18 PM »
loperamide is hepatically metabolized by n,n, demthylation at the dimethyl amide the first pass is 99%
that may explain why loperamide is'nt orally active in that fashion.
i know the ester can be insuflatted, rectally administered or i.v.ed.
rectal administration is best done by a close friend that you really trust not to tell anyone else.

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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2010, 10:34:26 PM »
you do know that poop comes out your rectum, right?

imo, sticking something up your butt is nastier than sticking a needle in your arm... and i stick needles in my arm!

i will admit in 1998, i plugged a roll on a dare... the rolls were called pyrimids and they were triangle shaped pills with an X on them. it did make me roll, but not in any new or extreme way. it was the same as eating it, but it took longer to kick in.

if you have such a small amount of a drug that your contemplating sticking it up your ass, just save it till you have some more and bang the shit like a man and stop sticking things up your butt.

and dont get a friend to do it... thats the kinda shit that ruins friendships. the shit on your fingers...

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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2010, 08:56:35 AM »
Plugging is infinitely safer than IV. Fuck needles especially with chemicals of unknown purity. I think most people can manage it by themselves and won't need a friend.

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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2010, 09:16:11 AM »
getting off topic here a bit, but that makes sense that the reason why loperamide doesn't work, all the blood travels through the liver first before the rest of the body as far as I know.

Interesting about HOW it is metabolized, I bet there are some easy ways to make it orally active, which might be preferred.
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2010, 03:39:41 PM »
Plugging is infinitely safer than IV. Fuck needles especially with chemicals of unknown purity. I think most people can manage it by themselves and won't need a friend.

Than why do they set up IV's at hospitals instead of shoving it up the kester. IV travels into the blood stream faster but if you are messing with chems of unknown purity and stick them in your ass its all getting in the bloodstream via mucus membranes just a tad bit slower.

I know there is a stigma behind the needle but with sterile gear it is safe and quite efficient.
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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2010, 05:50:13 PM »
haha! i was bullshitting about the whole friend/kiester thing.
i would slam it too.
but mainly if i have the propionoxy ester i prefer to snort it.
yes it's true with crude drugs like tar heroin i had abscesses all over my arms and sclerosed veins it's a bad idea to inject impure drugs.
the citrate salt of the ester is quite soluble and injection friendly if it is pure enough.
the thing about that stuff is that it sets off a mean histamine response so what i did was snort it then chase it with benadryl nasal spray.
if anyone has ever snorted heroin this is not unusual it turns your nose red sometimes your face from the histamine response which is why the benadryl nose spray.

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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2010, 09:38:43 PM »
With out further adieu: 7 medium Tasmanians were popped and put in a coffee grinder two or three at a time.  The were scalded with about 500ml of boiling H2O and a little lemon juice for about five minutes. Plant material was strained off and mixture was sweetened to taste with agave nectar and shared with a friend. Alkaloid presence was noticed with first drink that and the taste of something not quite as bad as I had imagined. After drinking the brew we decided to bring the rest of said contents to boil in pot of water and lemon juice. The color was dark beige instead of the light straw color of the first run. Contents were divided evenly and enjoyed over ice. The first bit was slammed, the second bit is being sipped as we speak with perhaps a 100mls to go.

There is a tad bit of nausea but nothing to unpleasant. Bio-activity is apparent with a smug look on my face. My opiate tolerance is moderate so caveat lector, but nothing I wouldn't recommend.     
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