Hello my name is CR and I'm a compulsive label/msds reader. (group replies "Hi Captain Rush"). So Im making a thread to compile all my interesting label finds. I will be editing and adding in things daily so as not to use to space in this beautiful place(if thats ok with yall)

Methyl Isobutyl Ketone: denaturant in 70% ethyl rubbing alcohol along with benzyl alcohol
Styrene: fiber glass resins. maybe dilute with high bp Np then distill. Reduce with Libronze (Li(nh3)2 i think) to allylbenzene (sci madness)
Dimethyl Ether: wart freezer stuff
Sodium Acetate: certain instant heat pads
Hexamine: Fuel tablets for camping stoves. Only sourced online so far
Calcium Hypochlorite: for chlorinating pool
Sodium Hypochlorite: same as above
Potassium Phosphite: commercial turf fungicide and fertilizer, start a lawn care biz. salt out the K with HCL and have fun with ya H3PO3
Sorry its all basic chems right now but this is just all from memory recall. Ill amaze you when I get my new glassware set and start sourceing again. Remember total synthesis is the only way to remain free and off the radar.

No captainrush is confusing a process over at sciencemadness because he didn't appear to read the entire thread. The Li[NH₃]₄ is reduced using styrene(patents provided over at science madness), heat, or Fe(II) salts, as well as other regents, to Lithium Amide,(LiNH₂) a powerful base with the ability to deprotonate DMSO forming the Dimsyl ion. The Dimsyl ion adds to the styrene which with further pyrolysis yeilds Allylbenzene in almost quantative yeilds.

Captain it may be best to get an idea of the mechanics to fully undestand a reaction before making bold statements. It is a process that has not been given the attention it deserves since I think there may be a possibility of using Ethoxides as well and still allow the equilibrium to proceed to the right albeit at a much slower pace and higher temperature.

Info on what?

The Dimsyl ion forms in an equilibrium according to PKa. Its just a matter of having an extremely strong one to perform complete deprotonation. However since the deprotonated DMSO produce reacts with Styrene this MIGHT allow the equilibrium to slowly be pushed to the right as the Dimsyl is used and new Dimsyl ions form. This is my theory you will find no literature on it other then the equilibrums formed from NaOEt and DMSO which are posted.... Somewhere here I think. If not the papers are at SM.

Like I said before its not about understanding a reaction its about understanding the Mechanics of the reaction and why it proceeds. IE: YES Ethoxides will work no matter what since it indeeds forms a very low concetration of deprotonated DMSO but your yeilds would be shitty if it does not proceed according to my theory. And I mean shitty....

Yes this is the reason the amides ,butyllithium's, an mainly in the original text hyrides are normaly used in a lab setting but there is documentation existing showing the equilibrium that forms in the presence of sodium methoxide. It obviously lies strongly to the left but I still wounder if using an excess while the reaction with Styrene is occuring would allow it to move further to the right.

here it is:

Solvation and ion pairing of alkali-metal alkoxides in dimethyl sulfoxide. Conductometric studies
J. Am. Chem. Soc., 1974, 96  (6), pp 1782–1787
DOI: 10.1021/ja00813a022

"Methanol and tert-butanol have pKa's of 16 and 19, respectively, in alcohol solution. In pure DMSO however, their respective acidity constants are 27.0 and 29.2, increases of over 10 pK units"

Na go on with it. This is one of those types of threads that has the potential to turn into a great resource so just add what you find and keep the ball rolling because side discussions are bound to break out here or there in this type of thread but I find light moderation to be best when it comes to OTC list since its good to know what can be done with the chemicals as well a knowing where they are, ya dig?

Think that's the first time I've ever actually gotten to browse hyperdeath, iirc it's been down when I last attempted to visit it. I'll edit the CAS #'s into my original post after some shut eye.   
 

Don't think there's any need to prepare lithium amide first... the metal can be chucked into DMSO and it will bubble away merrily, forming dimsyl lithium. Not as clean as you'll get CH3SOLi and methane instead of hydrogen but it works.

A link isn't necessary ime, what you have provided is enough to find it.  Sorry, can't help  that much for past experience.

I used to belong to roguesci.org,a very long time ago.They were more into things that went BOOM or AHHHHHHHHHHHHH! But they were kings of clandestine chemistry.(IMHO) Two things I just got off their archive:

first very cool working link(brought to you by the same people that brought us the DEA):
http://hpd.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/list?tbl=TblChemicals&alpha=A
have fun
next let me try this:

megalomania
September 26th, 2002, 07:09 AM
A couple of years ago I hit several local stores to find out what chemical they had. I called this the Great OTC Survey. I got yelled at in four stores and Wal Mart even threw me out for daring to write down prices! Although my prices may be a bit out of date I find this to be an invaluable resource to me when I want something. Keep in mind that chemical availability is somewhat regional. I hit only major chain stores although some will be limited to the northeastern United States in some cases. Use this as a guide to see what is out there. Now it has taken me too damn long to get around to publishing this, so bear with me as I do this as a quick and dirty thing right now. I will edit this document as I get to it and eventually I shall make it on my webpage in a nicer form. I hope all who read this will continue in my footsteps and post their own stores chemical contents.

My criterion is simple. For a chemical to qualify it must be either in pure form, a simple mixture, or a rare chemical. That means I don’t bother with bottles of shampoo with 20 different chemicals, but I will list the two or three chemicals in a solvent.

The listing is thus: Chemical substance first, amount or concentration, price, product name.

Sears
Methyl acetylene-propadine 44% $7.99 MAPP gas cylinder
Oxygen gas $9.99 oxygen cylinder
Sulfamic acid 340g $4.99 distiller cleaner
Sodium hexametaphosphate 48oz $24.99 phosphate crystals
Hydrochloric acid 31.45%/1 gal 2.99 muriatic acid
Ethyl alcohol
Acetone
Methyl ethyl ketone
VM&P naptha
Copper sulfate

A certain semi local department/grocery store
Yeast
d-glucose
hydrogen peroxide
isopropanol
boric acid
magnesium sulfate
p-dichlorobenzene, scented
naphthalene powder
p-dichlorobenzene
calcium chloride
1-bromo-3-chloro-5,5-dimethylhydantion
sani-flush (sodium bisulfate)
acetic acid

A certain pool and spa store
Cyanuric acid
Sodium tetraborate pentahydrate
Sodium bisulfate
Potassium carbonate
1-bromo-3-chloro-5,5-dimethylhydantion
1,3-dichloro-5,5-dimethylhydantion
1,3-dichloro –5-ethyl-5-methylhydantion
1,3-dibromo-5,5-dimethylhydantion
potassium monopersulfate
lithium hypochlorite
sodium bromide

Sherman Williams
Ethyl alcohol
Hydrochloric acid

Pet Smart
Sodium thiosulfate

A semi local drugstore chain
Magnesium sulfate
Mineral oil
Diphenhydramine hydrochloride
Acetylsalicylic acid
Water
Zinc oxide
Iodine;sodium iodide
Glycerin
Isopropyl alcohol 70%
Ethyl alcohol
Isopropyl alcohol 91%
Hydrogen peroxide
Boric acid
Naphthalene
p-dichlorobenzene
1-bromo-3-chloro-5,5-dimethylhydantion
copper sponge
d-glucose

Another local drugstore
Acetone
Hydrogen peroxide
Boric acid
Sulfur
Glycerin
1-bromo-3-chloro-5,5-dimethylhydantion
naphthalene
p-dichlorobenzene
methyl salicylate

A semi big grocery store
Water
Acetic acid
Yeast
Sodium chloride
Sodium chloride 50lbs/40lbs/80lbs
Potassium chloride
Ammonium hydroxide
Sodium hydrosulfite, sodium bisulfite
Sani-flush
1-bromo-3-chloro-5,5-dimethylhydantion
isopropyl alcohol
calcium chloride
isopropyl alcohol
magnesium sulfate
hydrogen peroxide

A local paint store
Toluene
Xylene
Steel wool
Dichloromethane; isopropanol;methanol; et al
Methylene chloride; et al
Acetone
Methyl ethyl ketone
Ethyl alcohol
VM&P naptha

A local hardware store now out of business
Methylene chloride, et al
Mineral spirits
Ethylene glycol monobuytl ether; petroleum distillates
Boiled linseed oil
Turpentine
Ethyl alcohol
Acetone
Toluene
Methylene chloride; et al
Hydrochloric acid
Acetone; methyl alcohol
Sulfuric acid
Aluminum sulfate
Copper sulfate
Phosphoric acid
Propane
Oxygen
Methyl acetylene propadiene
Calcium chloride
Trisodium phosphate; copper sulfate
Trisodium phosphate hydrated
Oxalic acid
Phosphoric acid; hydrofluoric acid
Monosodium acid methanearsonate
Boric acid
Methyl alcohol
Ether; petro dist
Sodium chloride

Home Depot
Triple superphosphate
Charcoal
Zinc phosphide
Sodium hypochlorite
Xylene
Naptha
Methyl ethyl ketone
Ethyl alcohol
Acetone
Kerosene
Trisodium phosphate
Steel wool
Hydrochloric acid
Phosphoric acid; glycolic acid
Phosphoric acid
Hydrochloric acid
Calcium chloride
Hydrofluoric acid
Sulfamic acid
Zinc chloride
Copper sulfate
Sodium hydroxide
Sodium hydrosulfite; sodium bisulfite
Sulfuric acid
Benzoic acid; adipic acid
Propane
Oxygen
Nickel silver; copper phosphorus
Electrode rods
Polystyrene

A local ag co op
Dimethylsulfoxide

Wal-Mart
Wax
Broken glass
1,1,1,2-tetrafluoroethane
crystalline silica
acid detecting/neutralizing spray
calcium chloride
NaCl, CaCl, MgCl, KCl mix
Ether; et al
Methyl alcohol 100%
Isopropyl alcohol 100%
Xylene; ethylbenzene
Bromo-nitropane-diol; sodium chloride
Formaldehyde; methyl alcohol
Paraformaldehyde
Magnesium metal
Molasses
Lead balls
PH test kit
Activated carbon
bubblers
mineral oil
isopropyl alcohol 70%
hydrogen peroxide
magnesium sulfate

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randomquestion
September 26th, 2002, 07:59 AM
Wow! Again good work mega. Ive been wanting something like this for a while. Before I had to search online for the certain brands, and even then it is hard to find what store carries them. Also, in my case, I have limited transportation, and this will save me tons of time. I hope you have time to add to the list soon.

And can Wal Mart through you out for writing down pirces? I thought that was illegal. :rolleyes: Why should they be mad? They are the ones who carry the products and price them.

<small>[ September 26, 2002, 08:01 AM: Message edited by: randomquestion ]</small>
Al Nobel
September 26th, 2002, 10:40 AM
This is a usefull link for german members:omikron-online.de . They sell a lot of usefull chemicals for example: acetylsalicylic acid ,naphtalen ,hydrochloric acid 15% ,hydrogen peroxyd 15%,sulfur ,red phosphorus ,aceton , aluminium dust(200 mesh),magnesium dust(200 mesh).
Alchemist
September 26th, 2002, 10:44 AM
Hello all, ***** RE-READ THIS OFTEN AS I KEEP EDITING IT *****

this is good, but like Mega said VERY regional! I also have several Wal-Mart, pet smart, Home Depot, etc. and they do NOT carry many of the chemicals that Mega's do. Yet you may drive to the next town and the same stores do!

If you do not know already Vodka, Jin, whisky, etc., with one distilling will give you 95% Ethanol. This can be made anhydrous with Calcium Oxide (quick
lime) From your grocery/liquor store (the spirits that is).

My pool store (Leslie's) also carries Ascorbic Acid, Sodium Bromide,Alum (Aluminium Potassium Sulfate), Calcium Chloride, Tri-Sodium Phosphate (TSP), Hydrochloric acid (HCL),etc.. Also Aqua Chem products (30% H2O2)!

Radio Shack sells Ferric Chloide (copper etch), and I have seen on and off at another local electronics store Ammonium PerSulfate (copper etch).

The Do it Center has Acetone, denatured alcohol, Conc. Sulfuric acid (drain opener), Sodium Hydroxide (Lye), Methyl Ethyl Ketone (MEK), Copper Sulfate, Sulfur, Urea, Potassium Nitrate (stump remover), rock Phosphate (Calcium Phosphate), Oxalic acid (Bar Cleaner, this is also available at many grocery stores), Cyanuric acid, Sodium Carbonate, Sodium Bisulfate, Sodium Bromide, Calcium Hypochlorite, and more I just can't remember at this moment.

A Green Thumb Nursery in my area, Sulfur , Urea, Potassium Nitrate (stump remover), Ferric Sulfate,Potassium Sulfate, Calcium Oxide (hydrated lime), Potassium Chloride, Calcium Nitrate, Zinc Sulfate, and more.

A Army/Navy surplus store, Hexamine(fuel tablets) and Magnesium (fire starters).

My Wal-Mart also has Ammonium Nitrate (cold packs), but I bet Mega's does also. Also they sell road Flares too. It's hard to remember it all!

My local hobby shop still sells model racing fuel with up to 30% Nitromethane (the rest being Methanol & Castor oil). I have heard many hobby shops have stopped selling Nitro racing fuel!

*NOTE* In my area I have seen Toluene and Xylene ONLY at Sherman Williams Paint stores.

Industrial cleaning supplies (Janitorial). These sell to anyone, but are more for schools and business's. I have found Citric acid, 30% Phosphoric acid (great for cleaning glassware), and 99% Acetic acid.

A local ag co op has Potassium Nitrate, Potassium Chloride, Ammonium Nitrate, Calcium Nitrate, etc., by the 50 and 100 lb sacks!

Though NOT in my town it's a 1.5 hour drive I can get at a Ceramic's/clay supplier, Antimony Oxide, Barium Carbonate, Chrome Oxide (green), Cobalt Carbonate, Cobalt Oxide, Copper Carbonate, Copper Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Feldspar (Calcium Floride), Iron Oxide (red, black, or yellow), Lithium Carbonate, Magnesium Carbonate, Magnesium Sulfate, Manganese Carbonate, Manganese Dioxide, Nickel Carbonate, Nickel Oxide, Potassium Carbonate, Potassium Dichromate, Silica, Sodium Carbonate, Sodium Silicate, Strontium Carbonate, Tin Oxide, Titanium Dioxide, and Zinc Oxide! There are even some on the web that will mail order and even have more chemicals!
P.S., the name of this shop is Aardvarks (the 1.5 hour drive one), the internet one is <a href="http://www.clayartcenter.com/chem_raw_a.htm" target="_blank">http://www.clayartcenter.com/chem_raw_a.htm[/url] .

More later as I look and remember where I got whatever. This is a REALLY good idea. Everyone please keep it going and if possible give name of store and if ya know, what you use the chemical for. Thanks!!!

P.S., Mega's does that semi local drugstore chain sell Naphthalene as Moth balls? I have not seen them for years now! Also what does your Home Depot sell Benzoic acid for and in what department?

<small>[ September 26, 2002, 08:32 PM: Message edited by: Alchemist ]</small>
Machiavelli
September 26th, 2002, 02:18 PM
I remembers some time ago on the Hive some people warned about Omikron, he seems to be more cozy with the cops than your average chemical supply store, probably because he sells to the public.
While that's no reason to discard this source, use it with an extra dose of caution.
NERV
September 26th, 2002, 03:44 PM
I have been looking for something like this for a long time. This will
help me get the prouducts I need faster. I have limited transportation (my mom), and she dosnt like it when I go from place to place looking for things. I would list where I get my stuff but I cant remember most of the names beside Walmart, and Home Depot.
megalomania
September 26th, 2002, 11:14 PM
I have a listing of other stores, but those seem to have dissapeared. I can pull a few from memory. I should also note that my survey of some stores is incomplete. As I mentioned I tend to be unwelcome when doing this. The reason being they assumed I was some competitor snagging their prices. No they don't have the right to throw me out, but it dosn't mean they can't The manager bitch actually followed me around before getting "assistance" from co workers to have me removed. Apparently you have to register with them if you are a competitor come to get prices. They didn't believe me when I said I wasn't (nor did any of the others, but they didn't flip). A word of advice, all this pricing is hard on the knees. All that writing without a surface you see.

I amended my above list to include Sherman Williams. As you can see the selection there was minimal. The other paint store, besides the small container at Sears, is the only place to sell toluene (pure).

If I had to do this over again (which I may anyway) I think I would do it a bit slower, maybe not get the entire store, do a section at a time. I would use a tape recorder to make it less suspicious and a bit quicker. Easier on the knees Some of those larger hardware stores took me quite a few hours, and I don't think I finished them. Another tactic would be just to buy everything and then return it. If I was a competitor that is what I would do, then they give you a nice printout of everything. Of course #1 you run the risk of not being able to return some things #2 the new tactic is to charge restocking fees and #3 how many bells and whistles would go off buying a bunch of chemicals? Places like wal-mart have close ties with the DEA when it comes to suspicious chemical orders. All chemicals are suspicious by the way.

My mental addendium, not to be taken at face value:
An industrial plumber supply company
nitric acid ~30% 55 gallon drums, ~$75 for the acid and ~$200 for a refundable drum deposit

A local greenhouse
Calcium nitrate

Lowes Hardware
sulfur
triple superphosphate
aluminum sulfate
sodium bicarbonate
sodium bromide
calcium hypochlorite
sodium bisulfate
Flake2m
September 27th, 2002, 09:19 AM
Has anyone done an OTC survey in Australia?
I am prepared to be a willing particpant to it as there are some shop with some really useful chemicals that are relitively cheap.
Though there really needs to be more people doing this so there is a more acurate idea of what to get where.
blindreeper
February 20th, 2003, 03:37 AM
Sorry for bringing up a old post but if anyone is still interested in the Australian items here is my list:

Prices are approx.

KMnO4 - Got it at some argricultural place in hervey bay -$17/500g

KNO3 - Got it at growforce australia - $60/50kg

Ammonium Nitrate - <a href="http://www.duralite.com.au" target="_blank">www.duralite.com.au[/url] - $33/kg

HCl - Bunnings - $8/2.5L

Acetone - Bunnings - $11/L

Methyl ethyl ketone - Bunnings - $5/250ml

Sulfer - Big W - $2.50/2.5kg

Sodium carbonate - Bunnings - $10/2.5kg

Formaldahyde 23% - Camperland - $11/L

Magnesium - Camperland - $16/ a block of it

Hexamine - Camperland - $5/ box of eight ( I think it was around 150g)

Pine charcoal - Camperland - $9/2.5kg

H2O2 50% (oxyplus) - J&K hydroponics - $12/500ml

Phosphoric acid - J&K Hydroponics - $13/250ml

Ethanol 97%&gt; - J&K Hydroponics - $27/L

Citric acid - Action supermarkets - $1.23/75g

Aluminium powder 325 mesh - <a href="http://www.metalpowders.com.au" target="_blank">www.metalpowders.com.au[/url] - $15/kg

Zinc powder 4.5 micron - <a href="http://www.metalpowders.com.au" target="_blank">www.metalpowders.com.au[/url] - $10/kg

Laboratory supplies (apparatus) <a href="http://www.livingstone.com.au" target="_blank">www.livingstone.com.au[/url] - um to many prices ask for a laboratory catalogue. They often have lots of specials

Chemical suppliers:

<a href="http://www.bacto.com.au" target="_blank">www.bacto.com.au[/url] - They have lists of chemicals on their site, very friendly no questions asked.

<a href="http://www.ssapl.com.au" target="_blank">www.ssapl.com.au[/url] - Site is still under construction but just email them for a catalogue.

If you have any more to add please do so.

<small>[ February 20, 2003, 04:19 AM: Message edited by: blindreeper ]</small>
jarrod
February 22nd, 2003, 07:47 AM
<a href="http://www.selbybiolab.com.au/" target="_blank">Selby Biolab[/url] is an excellent lab supplier for in Australia, mainly with apparatus, they ask to many questions with chemicals. The only bad thing is that each time you buy something you have to spend $200 minimum. :mad:

PS. they stock everything you can think of

<small>[ February 24, 2003, 02:21 AM: Message edited by: jarrod ]</small>
Tuatara
February 23rd, 2003, 10:20 PM
Tungsten rods can be had from a welding / engineering shop
static_firefly
February 25th, 2003, 05:28 AM
<a href="http://www.sigma-chem.com.au" target="_blank">http://www.sigma-chem.com.au[/url] sell heaps of stuff. Kmno4=1kg for $12-20 and they ship overseas. I havent yet ordered from them since i live on the farthers possable (they are in perth and im am on the SE coast) and that sounds like a lot of shipping.

50% h202, oxyplus 500ml $11 hydroponics store
25kg kno3, $29 fertlizer werehouse
I have plenty of other things but most likely everyone knows where to get them.
...i also have found this gold cleaner at a supermarket i suspect to be hno3 based. $10 for 100mls i dun wanner waste to find its not.
green beret
February 28th, 2003, 06:54 AM
93% Mono Ethylene Glycol can be obtained at Big-W. $29 for 5 litres. Or you can buy 30g/l ethylene glycol, $3.60 for 5 litres.
They are both sold as antifreeze.

Also, at your local supermarket, you can get pure AN, yes, thats right, at the supermarket. Those hippo moisture absorbers contain pure AN prills. Not cheap, but if you can get them on "discount" its worthwhile, or if youre making small APAN charges you could buy it, since you wouldnt need heaps.
I actually went down to coles today, to have a look and see if I could borrow some, but they were all sold out! Maybe there are other pyros in my area...

<small>[ February 28, 2003, 07:00 AM: Message edited by: green beret ]</small>
xyz
March 1st, 2003, 02:15 AM
A good chem supplier in West Australia is Agent Sales ( <a href="http://www.agentsales.com.au" target="_blank">www.agentsales.com.au[/url] ).

They ask some questions but don't seem to care what answers you give. They have H202 and H2SO4 both very cheap.

What exactly are these hippo things?, I can get pure AN for $1AUD/Kilo but I am interested to know what these are in case my AN source disappears or something.

<small>[ March 01, 2003, 02:18 AM: Message edited by: xyz ]</small>
shooter3
March 1st, 2003, 01:00 PM
Today I was shopping at the marine store(National chain, you know who it is)and went to the epoxy section (national brand, same name as the store though not related)and saw a dusty old can of "Hard coat".oka 400 mesh Al. powder.

I told him I wasn't sure that it would be any good seeing that it was over 2 years old(HaHa), but I'd give him thirty bucks for the can. He said OK, so I scored a 4 lb can for $30.00! Oh, the underutalized marine stores.
jarrod
March 1st, 2003, 10:24 PM
Does anyone know where pentaerythritol can be obtained in Australia without to many questions. I have looked and found absolutely nothing.
10fingers
March 2nd, 2003, 01:31 AM
Finding sources of chems is one of the joys of this hobby, here are some of the things I've found;
Menards, similar to Home Depot or Lowes
Toluol
Xylene
Ethanol
Naptha
Acetone
Methylene Chloride/Paint Stripper
Ethyl Ether/Starting Fluid
Calcium Hypochlorite/Swimming Pool Chlorinator
Sodium Chloride/Water Softener Salt
Potassium Chloride/Water Softener Salt Substitute
Calcium Chloride/Ice Melt
Sodium Hydrogen Sulfate/Drain Opener
Sulfuric Acid 90%/Drain Opener
Potassium Permanganate/Iron Filter Cleaner
Silicone Grease/Plumbing
Hydrochloric Acid

Wal-Mart;
Hydrogen Peroxide 3%
Glycerin
Ethylene Glycol/Antifreeze
Ammonium Hydroxide/Household Ammonia Solution
Paraformaldehyde/Portable Toilet Disinfectant
Acetone
Ethanol
Isopropyl Alcohol
Boric Acid
Magnesium Sulfate/Epsom Salts
Methanol/Gas Line Antifreeze, Windshield Washer Fluid
Sodium Hypochlorite 5%/Bleach
Calcium Hypochlorite/Swimming Pool Chlorinator
Potassium Chloride/Water Softener Salt Substitute
Sodium Chloride/Water Softener Salt
Calcium Chloride/Ice Melter
Hydrofluoric Acid/Whink Rust Remover
Calcium Phosphate/Fertilizer
Hydrochloric Acid

Green House/Hydroponics Suppliers;
Calcium Oxide/Lime
Calcium Hydroxide/Hydrated Lime
Ammonium Nitrate
Potassium Nitrate
Calcium Nitrate
Ammonium Phosphate
Calcium Phosphate
Ammonium Sulfate
Urea

Napa Auto Parts;
Sulfuric Acid/Battery Electrolyte
Methanol/Gas Line Antifreeze
Isopropyl Alcohol/Gas Line Antifreeze

Ceramics Suppliers;
Iron Oxide, Red
Iron Oxide, Black
Chrome Oxide
Titanium Dioxide
Manganese Dioxide
Zinc Oxide
Tin Oxide
Aluminum Oxide
Copper Oxide
Cobalt Oxide
Iron Chromate
Potassium Dichromate
Iron Chromate
Barium Carbonate
Strontium Carbonate
Nickel Carbonate
Potassium Carbonate
Copper Carbonate
Lithium Carbonate
Borax
Sodium Silicate
green beret
March 2nd, 2003, 07:05 PM
xyz, the hippo moisture absorbers are plastic containers, usualy in the section with other household cleaning products etc. There is an add on TV for them too. I can get AN for $1 per kilo too, these are just my backup source, its always good to have more than one supplier <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Jarrod, there is a place (I think) that sells PE, but its in 25kg bags and they wont sell to individuals, there was a person offering to sell it on the forum a while back, I was in email contact with him but he hasnt replied back recently. I am still working on getting a "sample" from one of these big companies, but no luck yet. I have made it my quest to search out PE in Australia, but no luck yet. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />
Tuatara
March 13th, 2003, 02:29 AM
I've found a seriously odd source of magnesium - the local vet! These things are 200g of magnesium metal, shaped like a giant gel cap cut in half lengthwise, with a rubber backing. They are for preventing Mg deficiency in cows (I pity the poor cow that has to swallow that fucker! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> )
I live in a rural town, with lots of dairy farmers, so you probably wont find this thing in a city vet clinic <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
Jumala
March 13th, 2003, 05:47 PM
I have also a source for a good assortment of pyrochems but I cannot post the adress because it isn´t a company.

Edit:
It is a german source. I can send the mailadress to everyone who likes it.
I think it will be no problem to send chems to other EU countrys but like I cannot buy from Skylighter people from US or Australia cannot get chems from here.

I bought Dark Al powder, Potassiumperchlorate, sodiumazide, magnesiumpowder and leadnitrate there and it was good quality.

Kaliumperchlorat
Kaliumchlorat
Natriumchlorat
Bariumchlorat
Dark Alu German Black 5413 H (2-5µm)
Aluflakes(2µm)
Magnesiumpulver(50µm-60µm)
Magnaliumpulver
Titanpulver (150µm)
Titanpulver (400µm)
Titanpulver und Granulate bis 2000µm möglich = anfragen
Ferrotitan
Strontiumnitrat ( 20µm)
Bariumnitrat ( 30µm)
Bariumcarbonat
Strontiumcarbonat
Lithiumcarbonat
Antimontrisulfid dark
Mangandioxyd
Eisenfeilspäne
Kupferoxyd
Red Gum Pulver
Holzkohlepulver
Kaliumbenzoat
Parlon
Schwefel
Zinkpulver
PVC-Pulver
Lamp black
Kaliumdichromat
Ammoniumperchlorat
Natriumazid

Some of it is a little dated
Thank You Mega,
I have 17 more pages of this if you want it