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Re: Illegal Drugs & How They Got That Way - The Videos
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2009, 12:51:31 AM »
Oh! I've seen this series. I'll try to watch them again sometime.

Seeing these also reminded me of this weird guy's series called bogosity with an episode on the war on drugs. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOUtWOmVcI4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugdjcmrxkNY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd2yvKgcmD8

Also Penn & Tellers Bullshit episode on The War on Drugs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMdFiw8bZHc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oZpVGUNLFU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Omh0XBE3rk

Sorry if my post derailed this thread, but these videos are pretty interesting!
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Re: Illegal Drugs & How They Got That Way - The Videos
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2009, 12:54:18 AM »
Oh its fine. The Penn and Teller video is pretty entertaining actually. I'll have to watch the other video when I have time.

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Re: Illegal Drugs & How They Got That Way - The Videos
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2010, 05:06:59 AM »
I'm going to bump this thread - I think a few people here would like to see it, and have not -- or might have more to add.
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Re: Illegal Drugs & How They Got That Way - The Videos
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2010, 06:49:01 AM »
Another good documentary/series was a on VH1 years ago called The Drug Years;

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3511301/VH1_-_The_Drug_Years-FULL_PROGRAM-dXm

The Drug Years is a four part documentary chronicling the rise of illicit drug use in America and its cultural impact in the second half of the twentieth century. This epic recounting of American drug culture is told through dozens of exclusive interviews with actors, musicians, journalists, policy advocates, former drug smugglers, and former drug enforcement agents. Notable interviews include Peter Coyote, Jackson Browne, Ray Manzarek from The Doors, Ice-T, Liz Phair, Juliette Lewis, Rob Thomas, Common, Tommy Chong, Richard Belzer, ?uestlove, Richard Lewis, Chuck D, Russell Simmons, B-Real, John Mellencamp, and Henry Rollins. These diverse voices help weave the complex tapestry of the American drug culture. The documentary features never-before-seen film of Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters’ legendary acid-fueled bus trip across America in 1964, and rare footage from Woodstock, which illuminates the role drugs played in creating “this beautiful utopian experience, this new Woodstock nation.” Later episodes feature exclusive home movies of former drug smugglers and heartbreaking footage of mothers hooked on crack

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Re: Illegal Drugs & How They Got That Way - The Videos
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2010, 10:43:35 AM »
Thanks for the links. I Watched a documentary on LSD the other day on National Geographic channel. It covered the entire basics of LSD and obviously how it revolutionized society in the sixties etc.. But it also ( thankfully ) had a great deal of info on the actual compound, and not only about Dr. Albert Hoffman, but also about the people who make LSD illegally. It has some great images of clandestine LSD labs, and it even had a university professor ( privlidged cunt ) who had a license from the DEA to make LSD. Seemed pretty easy to make, he just had a solution of clear, pure, lysergic acid, and he mixed it with 100% pure reagent grade Diethylamine. The LSD seemed to pop out pretty quickly, and was purified by distillation.
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Re: Illegal Drugs & How They Got That Way - The Videos
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2010, 08:02:30 PM »
Sounds to me like a bunch of DEA propaganda bullshit. Hey look everyone at how easy it is for people to mke these horrible drugs ect..ect.... You try to purify by distillation and im almost 100% sure you just destroyed everything you worked for.
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Re: Illegal Drugs & How They Got That Way - The Videos
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2010, 10:48:25 PM »
Epimerization to start with!
Epimerization studies of LSD using 1H nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR) spectroscopy
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=2837915

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Re: Illegal Drugs & How They Got That Way - The Videos
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2010, 05:17:30 AM »
Actually your right Sedit, i was thinking the same thing lol. If you try and purify LSD by distillation you will destroy it all, since it's so sensitive, but i am absolutely certain that he did apply some distillation. And it seemed to be in the purification step. Hmm, interesting. :-\
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Re: Illegal Drugs & How They Got That Way - The Videos
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2010, 02:43:17 AM »
Everyone in here may already know this, but in the mid sixties Owsley Stanley was the first person to produce LSD in quantity, and what he made reportedly set the standard for quality for some time to come. I don't know if his methods were ever documented.

Owsley is a really interesting character who now lives in Australia. He was a sound man for the Grateful Dead and his grandfather was governor and senator from Kentucky.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owsley_Stanley

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Re: Illegal Drugs & How They Got That Way - The Videos
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2010, 04:46:41 AM »
Hey Prepuce the documentary I recommended, has some content about him. Around the Woodstock times they were saying on the doco he had freshly prepared a batch of Monterrey Purple (?) and every one was hanging out to get their hands on it.

btw; I have no references of the top of my head, but I do remember he used the ergotamine , diethylamine, hydrazine classic Hofmann LSD synth (same as the famous operation Julie);


Process for lysergic acid hydrazides
Albert Hofmann et, al.
United States Patent 3239530
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3239530.html
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Re: Illegal Drugs & How They Got That Way - The Videos
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2010, 05:36:46 AM »
Sounds to me like a bunch of DEA propaganda bullshit. Hey look everyone at how easy it is for people to mke these horrible drugs ect..ect.... You try to purify by distillation and im almost 100% sure you just destroyed everything you worked for.

When LSD first started making the news it was widely reported that any kid with a chemistry set could make it. (My high school biology teacher must have known better, because he let some of us try.) Nothing's changed. (Except schools.)

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Re: Illegal Drugs & How They Got That Way - The Videos
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2010, 06:36:06 AM »
He let you try! ;D

What did he give you to work with? Surely he was playing a joke on you?

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Re: Illegal Drugs & How They Got That Way - The Videos
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2010, 06:06:07 AM »
No shit, Naf1. We ordered ergot and grew it, then tried to do an extraction and several other things. I no longer recall what else we bought, but we had what was needed. The teacher made us promise that if we were successful we would give it to a dog rather than bio-assaying it ourselves.

We also experimented with colchicine and giberellic acid. (Not on any kind of drug producing plant that I knew about, but we grew some very large tomatoes.)

It was a different world back then.

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Is Alcohol Worse than Ecstasy? - BBC Horizon
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2011, 03:43:24 AM »
20 drugs compared

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IizSd_USCn4&feature=player_embedded#!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLSxiXbTulg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHEBkh-l6tA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Raex6kCZ04E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbufTwr-hH8&feature=related

Professor David Nutt was last week forced to resign from his role as chairman of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs. Research by Nutt and his colleagues, published in the medical journal the Lancet in 2007, rates the following as the most dangerous drugs. (They are listed in descending order from the most harmful and all figures are for England and Wales in 2008 unless stated otherwise.)

1. Heroin

Class A drug. Originally used as a painkiller and derived from the opium poppy. There were 897 deaths recorded from heroin and morphine use in 2008 in England and Wales, according to the Office of National Statistics (ONS). There were around 13,000 seizures, amounting to 1.6m tonnes of heroin.

2. Cocaine

Class A. Stimulant produced from the South American coca leaf. Accounted for 235 deaths – a sharp rise on the previous year's fatalities. Nearly 25,000 seizures were made, amounting to 2.9 tonnes of the drug.

3. Barbituates

Class B. Synthetic sedatives used for anaesthetic purposes. Blamed for 13 deaths.

4. Street methadone

Class A. A synthetic opioid, commonly used as a substitute for treating heroin patients. Accounted for 378 deaths and there were more than 1,000 seizures of the drug.

5. Alcohol

Subject to increasing concern from the medical profession about its damage to health. According to the ONS, there were 8,724 alcohol deaths in the UK in 2007. Other sources claim the true figure is far higher.

6. Ketamine

Class C. A hallucinogenic dance drug for clubbers. There were 23 ketamine-related deaths in the UK between 1993 and 2006. Last year there were 1,266 seizures.

7. Benzodiazepines

Class C. A hypnotic relaxant used to treat anxiety and insomnia. Includes drugs such as diazepam, temazepam and nitrazepam. Caused 230 deaths and 1.8m doses were confiscated in more than 4,000 seizure operations.

8. Amphetamine

Class B. A psychostimulant that combats fatigue and suppresses hunger. Associated with 99 deaths, although this tally includes some ecstasy deaths. Nearly 8,000 seizures, adding up to almost three tonnes.

9. Tobacco

A stimulant that is highly addictive due to its nicotine content. More than 100,000 people a year die from smoking and tobacco-related diseases, including cancer, respiratory diseases and heart disease.

10. Buprenorphine

An opiate used for pain control, and sometimes as a substitute to wean addicts off heroin. Said to have caused 43 deaths in the UK between 1980 and 2002.

11. Cannabis

Class B. A psychoactive drug recently appearing in stronger forms such as "skunk". The subject of intense controversy over its long-term effects and capacity for inducing schizophrenia. Caused 19 deaths and there were 186,000 seizures, netting 65 tonnes of the drug and 640,000 cannabis plants.

12. Solvents

Fumes inhaled to produce a sense of intoxication. Usually abused by teenagers. Derived from commonly available products such as glue and aerosol sprays. Causes around 50 deaths a year.

13. 4-MTA

Class A. Originally designed for laboratory research. Releases serotonin in the body. Only four deaths reported in the UK between 1997 and 2004.

14. LSD

Class A. Hallucinogenic drug originally synthesised by a German chemist in 1938. Very few deaths recorded.

15. Methylphenidate

Class B drug. Brand name of Ritalin. A psychostimulant sometimes used in the treatment of attention deficit disorders.

16. Anabolic steroids

Class C. Used to develop muscles, notably in competitive sports. Also alleged to induce aggression. Have been blamed for causing deaths among bodybuilders. More than 800 seizures.

17. GHB

Class C drug. A clear liquid dance drug said to induce euphoria, also described as a date rape drug. Can trigger comas and suppress breathing. Caused 20 deaths and 47 seizures were recorded.

18. Ecstasy

Class A. Psychoactive dance drug. Caused 44 deaths, with around 5,000 seizures made.

19. Alykl nitrites

Known as "poppers". Inhaled for their role as a muscle relaxant and supposed sexual stimulant. Reduce blood pressure, which can cause fainting and in some cases death.

20. Khat

A psychoactive plant, the leaves of which are chewed in east Africa and Yemen. Also known as qat. Produces mild psychological dependence. Its derivatives, cathinone and cathine, are Class C drugs in the UK.
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Re: Is Alcohol Worse than Ecstasy? - BBC Horizon
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2011, 05:43:04 AM »
Why did you post this in the Monsanto thread Vesp?

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Re: Is Alcohol Worse than Ecstasy? - BBC Horizon
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2011, 05:49:22 AM »
Oops, I actually meant to post it in this thread: http://127.0.0.1/talk/index.php/topic,97.msg300.html#msg300 but I guess I had posted it on this one by accident (for some reason this thread reminded me of that documentary I saw earlier and I was obviously abusing tabbed browsing) :P
It will be moved accordingly.
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