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MargaretThatcher

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Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:50 am
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http://www.knife-party.net/movs/barry.mov

24.8 MB quicktime
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Lief

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Sun Jun 05, 2005 7:42 pm
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http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2003/02/20030225ll_karbala.ram


http://massgraves.info/
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Lief

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Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:05 pm
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http://projects.sipri.se/armstrade/Trnd_Ind_IRQ_Imps_73-02.pdf

Top three suppliers of arms to Saddam Hussein, 1973 - 2002

USSR: 57%
* France: 13%
* China: 12%

Then, in order of importance:

* Czechoslovakia: 7%
* Poland: 4%
* Brazil: 2%
* Egypt: 1%
* Romania: 1%
* Denmark: 1%
* Libya: 1%

USA's sales -- 1 percent. None provided before or after the Iraq-Iran war.


Syria hiding Iraq WMDs
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36463
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MargaretThatcher

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Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:47 pm
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Saddam's most treasured gift was a set of gold riding spurs given to him by George Bush senior. Besides, the US installed Saddam.

The countries who sold Saddam the technology and advice to build his chemical, bacterial and nuclear weapons plants were mainly the US and the UK. That's how we knew he was trying before the first Gulf War - we had the receipts.
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zub

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Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:34 am
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saddam wil bee put to death, and george w. bush will continue to profit, on a personal level.

thank god there's not too many nasty looking kurds in the u.s. have you ever seen kurdish babes?

if they ever tried to step foot in the u.s.a., we would HIRE saddam to erliminate them.

fortunately, brittinay spears, the american republican, has taken care of this for us.

such a deal.

the whole world hates a fucking kurd.

don't try to blame amerika for their pathetic woes.
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The_Dude

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Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:56 am
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Been bored lately, Sam?
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slacker

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Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:40 am
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the us didnt exactly install saddam, he had been trying for sometime to take over in iraq and was even jailed at one point in his youth for trying to start a revolt i believe. it wasnt specifically saddam we wanted. the us would have been just as happy to use any other asshole to settle our scores with iran. in hindsight it was foolish to give saddam chem weapons but its one of those "enemy of my enemy" things. it goes on everyday in every country but nobody really cares until the us is involved.

and i still dont see how bush personally profits from the war. he surely isnt sitting on thousands of trillions of barrels of oil because you only make money when you sell it. if the market was flooded with all this oil bush is supposedly hiding then a barrel of crude would cost half as much as it does today. i dont know how much gas costs in other countries but i can tell you that here in the us it hasnt got any cheaper in the last 2 years.

as far as the human rights outcry goes about guantanamo bay, i didnt see many people complaining when saddam was busy attempting genocide, killing all political opposition in iraq, and executing his own citizens for personal amusement. but we all know what these "human rights" groups really want. they want a total release of all the prisoners at guantanamo because they want them to destroy more skyscrapers and murder more people. they need this to happen that way they have a reason to say "i told you so". america doesnt cause terrorism, terrorists do. and even if israel was defeated and american troops left the arabian peninsula tomorrow they still wouldnt stop because there will always be the small but influential faction of islam that wishes to destroy everybody that doesnt believe in their god.
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zub

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Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:01 pm
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dude,

i'm not sam. i was beeing facetious. i love kurds.

so, who's ahead in the killing of iraqui's? bush, or saddam?

jesus, evidently, is the most ass-kicking god ever invented.

the u.s. is in the fear business now. and its booming.
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slacker

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Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:43 pm
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so, who's ahead in the killing of iraqui's? bush, or saddam?


neither, the iraqis have killed more iraqis than either of them. just read a news paper. dozens of bystanders are always killed when they hit the convoys because theyre too sloppy to carry out a proper military operation.

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jesus, evidently, is the most ass-kicking god ever invented.


i tend to disagree. as an athiest i believe all religions are nothing more then tools used by the respective clergy to further their political objectives.

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the u.s. is in the fear business now. and its booming.


thats because americans arent intelligent enough to identify growing threats. theyre too busy watching "american idol" or the "24 hour football channel". with such short attention spans if you dont scare them often they lose interest like an add kiddie.

and besides, i really think this thread is kinda irrelevant. as a soldier who is going to be sent to iraq soon im tired of talking about this crap all the time. cant we keep politics and chemistry separate? if you read pihkal/tihkal (and im sure most of you have autographed copies) even the good doctor keeps the two separate. i think we should follow his lead.
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zub

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Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:25 pm
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well, shucks.

i thought we were keeping politics and chemistry seperate. that's why we're b.s.ing in the friday night forum.

slacker, good luck in iraq, if you have to go there. some iraqui's are still angry with the u.s. because we dropped alot of bombs on their country and accidently hurt a few people.
you may have heard about this.
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MargaretThatcher

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Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:46 pm
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While you're over there, can you check out Baghdad Open Market for sassafras oil? I think miltary stationed overseas are tax exempt. Maybe we can do a deal.
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slacker

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Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:28 pm
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i thought we were keeping politics and chemistry seperate. that's why we're b.s.ing in the friday night forum


lol, good point zub. i didnt even realize that. i stand corrected.

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some iraqui's are still angry with the u.s. because we dropped alot of bombs on their country and accidently hurt a few people.


i understand that this happened and i truly feel bad. despite common misconceptions, we dont go around indiscriminately killing iraqis. a lot of guys out there have children and wives of their own and nobody likes to see bystanders killed. ive seen people go to great lengths to avoid shooting innocent people. this isnt to say that some individuals havent commited crimes but they will be dealt with in some form, either by the military justice system or a car bomb. polluting your karma is foolish in any case and exponentially more so in times of war. even in the beginning after iraqi armored divisions were bombed we stopped and tried to give them extra chances to surrender. this backfired in a major way though, as the more highly motivated soldiers just shed their uniforms and retreated into the cities to wage the urban guerilla campaign that continues today.

i understand why some iraqis still are angry with us, nobody wants to be occupied. hell, if i was an iraqi i would probably be fighting the americans as well. the mood over there is slowly changing though because they see were trying to help them. outside of the major hotspots (read: baathist strongholds) many locals are actually quite hospitable as they see public works projects starting and schools being constructed. in some cases more hospitable than americans.

i think the main reason so many americans have turned against the war is the media coverage. i dont think its because theyre inherently biased, i think it has more to do with the news being a tv show. nobody is going to watch a tv show unless it entertains them. and lets face it, bad news is more entertaining than good news so they drive right past that new water treatment facility to film the horiffic car bombing in the local market that has killed 50 bystanders.

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While you're over there, can you check out Baghdad Open Market for sassafras oil?


haha, you read my mind like a book. uncle sam is more likely to look the other way when we bring it back as well since we do his dirty work. i like synthetikal (less bullshitters and egomaniacs than the hive and adc in my opinion) so i intend to contribute if i return. i cant make any promises, but if i return ill pm you. might be a good time to stock up on a few kilos of methylamine and rp as well.....
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MargaretThatcher

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Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:30 am
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I'm sure you'll be back. Keep you head down, and I don't mean on the Sergeant Major.
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joe_aldehyde
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Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:36 am
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the US installed saddam, period. this is common knowledge. anybody that is willing to dig a bit deeper than FOX or the likes allow you to think will discover that fact.
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slacker

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Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:14 am
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I'm sure you'll be back. Keep you head down, and I don't mean on the Sergeant Major.


haha, thanks for the advice. the only problem about the sassy oil i forgot to mention is that if youre in the uk like your name implies ill have to bring it in personally since us customs will interdict the shipment. the dea intercepts my sass root bark (yea, the bark. not even the oil) and glassware quite frequently (funny how much stuff gets "lost" in the mail, huh?)

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the US installed saddam, period. this is common knowledge. anybody that is willing to dig a bit deeper than FOX or the likes allow you to think will discover that fact


the us aided him, ill admit that. but we werent directly involved with installing him. if we installed him then why choose saddam specifically and not some other dumbass? what makes him so special? if we were picking and choosing our dictators we would have picked a more effective and obedient one than saddam i can assure you that. anybody willing to dig a bit deeper than their professors' conspiracy theories or leftist propaganda websites will allow you to discover that fact.
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