Any reports/info on DOC?

radio879dmt · Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:41 pm

Does anyone know of anything outside of pihkal, any reports on experiences with DOC? Anything from the old hive they'd happen to have (I tried searching couldnt find anything)

SWIM has tasted DOB and DOI, and is about to get an amount of DOC, but the amount to get might depend on how nice it is - looking in pihkal and comparing DOB, DOI, and DOC, DOC looks to be the one with the shortest duration (good) and least effects on the body (DOI is very easy on the body).

Harmonia · Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:27 pm

I'm sorry, but I can't help you out with that.
But I'm very curious about your experience with DOB and DOI, and soon hopefully DOC. I would love to hear some elaboration on these compounds, how they compare with eachother and other drugs (LSD, psilocybin etc). And I think I'm not the only one. Unfortunately there is not much information on the psychedelic amphetamines avaible, so please if you have some time write something down (everybody else who has experienced them too of course). Smile

the alchemist · Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:17 am

SWIM tried DOB at 3.2 mg. DOB is a very interesting compound. Nothing is felt for the first 2 hours (do not take more!!). This comes on very slowly (Didn't Shulgin say this compound has to be metabolized in the lungs prior to activity?). There is an unfortunate body load which is a slight amphetamine "push" at the beginning of the experience (not pleasurable) which can lead to nervousness and restlessness. The psychedelic aspect seemed to overwhelm the amphetamine effects about 3 hours after injesting. The visuals are very LSD-like and even more spectacular than LSD IMO. SWIM only truly experienced synthesesia (spl?) on this compound.

SWIM really liked the clarity of thought with this compound. Thoughts flow as easily as on MDMA (without extreme empathy edge). The visuals can be so overpowering that it becomes difficult to see or make out objects. Getting to the kitchen for a glass of water was quite an accomplishment although SWIM's mind was almost completely sane. This is not what you would get with LSD, of course.

Unfortunately this compound lasts well into the next day and residuals can be felt even into the day after that. While trying to sleep on the first night, muscle spasms could be felt all over the body. These felt like localized electric shocks. The whole body felt like it seized up sometimes. SWIM felt very panicked and scared because the compound took forever to leave the receptor. It is not a good feeling to be altered on the same substance for that length of time. Although the peak of the experience was positive, the overstimulation has kept this bee away from trying it again.

loki · guinea pig

ugh i hate DOB

in my country DOB is often sold on fat blotters and costs a lot more than equivalent doses of LSD. doubling the dose of DOB, unlike acid, leads to a more unpleasant experience.

4 bromo 2,5 dimethoxy amphetamine (bromo-dma) right? this drug has been named by my government drug nuts in documents which date back to at least 1995, where i first saw it named.

my first experience with this drug was intravenous administration. i had it this way 3 times before i decided it wasn't worth it cos it still took an hour to come on.

radio879dmt · Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:20 pm

Yeah DOB I don't really care for, too much body stimulation/vasoconstriction, and it lasts a lot longer than DOI/DOC.

DOI is really really easy on the body, i've heard of people taking as much as 20mg of it, and although having one hell of a trip, still no nasty body effects. Also DOI lasts a lot shorter than DOB in my experience (and others too).

DOC is even easier on the body, you can fall asleep during it if your tired. I found it a lot like 2C-C although different/better. Lasts even shorter than DOI. Seems like pihkal's listed doses for DOC are a little on the low side..

I've found snorting any of these, just a couple mg's or whatever, it seems to come on really quickly, within 5 minutes. For some reason DOC seemed to burn the most snorted though, I didn't think DOI or DOB was bad at all snorted, not that DOC is... but, comparatively.

Harmonia · Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:00 pm

Do you also prefer 2C-I over 2C-B?
I like it the other way (2C-I felt pretty bad physically, with headaches and I really like 2C-B), but I also found DOB at 2.5mg to be quite heavy on the body which could easily turn too much on higher dosages. So, DOC seems to be the way to go. Have you guys also tried DON? Read a post by Bandil on Bluelight. He seemed to be very fond of it.

loki · guinea pig

so you found that DOB lacked the typical 40 minute delay when snorted? (i've taken it IV and teh delay was present)

spicybrown · Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:37 pm

I have no experience with snorted DOB, but with snorted DOI the onset began within 5 minutes.

I recently read something interesting, though about PCP, it could be relavant here.. Which salt of DOB did you IV? Apparently PCP HBr snorted takes ~30 minutes to kick in, but PCP HCl kicks in within 5 or fewer. The duration is apparently the same however, regardless of the salt used.

-SpicyBrown

the alchemist · Sun Jul 10, 2005 7:25 pm

DOI and DOC seem interesting. I am not very fond of the 2C series either. 2C-B was hailed as some fantastic psychedelic by Shulgin but I found it to be different. Pharmacologically it is extremely interesting but I think it is a rather boring compound with little insight gained from the experience.