Needles and Poor Novice Chemists: A Cautionary Tale

loki · guinea pig

A story that should be told, from a foaf, for those who are interested in both:

sbrothy · Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:34 pm

loki · guinea pig

i'd rather trust neither... just my opinion. i'm moving on from this thing to something which actually gives more benefits than downsides. the downsides are greatly contributed by society but i am over my idealism about the whole subject now. if it doesn't work, it shall be cast aside for something which does work... just gotta pull back the focus from the specifics to the abstract original motivations.

for me, the primary abstract in this case is in the development of personal motivation aimed at allowing me to become more productive. MA could be helpful for this in many ways to a person who has a neurological malfunction which inhibits effective motivation but unfortunately it just as equally motivates one towards nonsense which is seen as such in the cold light of day (when the supply wears out or one hits the external limitations which are not properly assessed by the person in their vision upon which their actions are based). If one takes MA for this sort of purpose one will find that this cannot be achieved without a proper system of personal motivation and an accurate vision of the way in which to fulfill the vision anyway.

anyway, the thing is that i am not in a position to buy it anyway, only making it myself has any chance of producing sufficient supply for this sort of application. but there are too many obstacles, the most important two of which being a lack of adequate income to fund the learning process and a lack of patience derived from a sense of desperation about my very weak position and the illusion of this drug being useful for helping address the problem.

Added together the result is a string of soul destroying failures and the receiving of visions from the meagre product which repeatedly highlight the fact that the fundamentals to success are missing and that this route of attempting progression is not going to do anything more than destroy your health and capacity to develop anything except a growing sense of futility.

sbrothy · Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:11 am

sbrothy · Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:18 am

Who'd think such an inane story could trigger such deep reponses? But here we are....

Smile

loki · guinea pig

ah indeed, my man, indeed... and the vision which has turned me towards a different path is a plan to promote and create a form of anarchism which has the power to cause real change for those participating. and i already know of many places in which there is an abundant crop of potential participants, places like this... where other people of a similarly egoist type bent gather to conspire in various ways to disrupt the order and it's vampiric pack animal behavior.

first step is in developing and perfecting the art of unmasking the cattle and teaching them to see themselves for the lion that they are... and of course recognising the most susceptible to this and making the required efforts to get them in the loop. which is where my first steps on my path will take me. this is, of course, not something that can really be conducted in the online environment but the proper internet infrastructure facilitating co-ordinated pooling of energy and ... well anyway, it's all embryonic at this point but the starting point is abundantly clear to me now.

it may sound idealistic but i haven't neglected the real world issues caused by the fallibility of humans and the plan involves measures to ameliorate these negating influences in a consensual and ad-hoc manner.

sbrothy · Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:29 am

Man, you're making so much sense I'll have to adjust all my filters. And I mean that. I had a bunch of filters set up for this board only and now I have to reevaluate them all. Wow.... cya around Wink

sbrothy · Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:42 am

My filters may have been adjusted but my statement is still true (like false is true, wink@primathon):

I'd rather "trust" a shitty dealer than a kitchen chemist anyday.

At least when it's just a stupid dealer (and they usually are) I know it's produced in Poland and I can get the crystals to show if I put enough work into it. Afterall, those mafia types employ *real* chemists. That's how it works.

If it's a kitchen chemist there is absolutely no guarantees. That was my original point.

But ofcourse you knew that Wink

loki · guinea pig

yes i did know that but the cooks, at least around here, don't know how to fully reduce the precursor or eliminate sideproducts, and lacking a steam distillation apparatus, neither can i. pretty stupid all in all, i'm glad i'm leaving it behind

Vitus · Psychoscientist

loki · guinea pig

yes, and just as they use weapons of conditioning psychology to compromise the minds of people, similar techniques can be applied in order to cancel conditioning, uncovering the real person underneath the sheepish mask... Do you, for one, buy into the lies of the idiotbox and propaganda system? If you don't, then there must be a way in which you do this, and if this way can be ascertained then it can be taught. this is one aspect. the other aspect is related to personal contact and intentional development of trust and facilitating maintenance through keeping a track of the behavior of others with regard to their trustworthiness and altruism automatically as a part of the economic process. the ideas are nascent but have galvanised my motivation intensely, development of the theory of the proper way to do this is now under way.

i don't know really if there's much point publicising my efforts at developing these ideas really, they will reveal their value in practice. A lot of the practical side of it is already manifesting in embryonic forms in society, one can see these phenomena in action in places like this and other affinity group based activities on the internet, in the blogging phenomenon, in spontaneously organised direct action facilitated by internet and mobile phone technology, and recently in the development of ideas about trust/reputation networks, an early form of this which has become extremely powerful due to its application of this is the google search engine's use of backlink ranking (check out 'Down and Out in the Magical Kingdom' by Cory Doctorow, which is available free online direct from him at his website). I am simply taking all these inputs, and refining and crystallising them into a system which will permit the practical exploitation of these new and very interesting social phenomena to create real social change in a more focussed manner.

Lief · Wed Aug 03, 2005 3:05 am

The only change I'm interested in right now is shuffling my investment portfolio around so it goes up faster and I get more dividends so I can retire early. I keep getting raises at work, but I'd rather make money from not working.

anime · Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:20 pm

how hard exactly is it to do 1 reaction? 1 simple reduction???? Its irresponsible to not clean a product esp. if the purpose is to make money.