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Portable power source for lights?
« on: August 15, 2010, 03:40:40 PM »
OK, so somebody has a problem, a certain somebody did not find a whole load of dirty huge great plants in a public park, and did not rescue them.

Problem is, no power supply in the loft, only a light, but no power points to plug growlights into.

Can anybody suggest a portable power source, even one that would have to be charged up every day or two? it would be a real shame if these plants that nobody rescued and nobody is looking after and nurturing to go to waste, these aren't some crackers, and are not up to 5 foot tall or so.
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Re: Portable power source for lights?
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2010, 04:29:36 PM »
A gas, or other fuel (propane, natural gas, diesel) powdered generator. Find a used one, they're fairly cheap and can put out a decent amount of power - they use them in  mobile homes or campers fairly often.
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Re: Portable power source for lights?
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2010, 05:03:02 PM »
Not practical, the loft is right above my father's bedroom.

There is only so much stealth possible with a five-foot bud plant. The thing stinks, and it is less a houseplant, more a small tree, or at least the largest is, outdoor grown, probably Sativa, damn things are almost as tall as I am.
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Re: Portable power source for lights?
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2010, 10:04:23 PM »
Maybe you can run an extension cord somewhere. if its in an attic maybe you can cut the plug and wire it in where a light drop is or straight into circuit breaker. safety first!
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Re: Portable power source for lights?
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2010, 01:16:07 AM »
Ever heard of stealing electricity!?

Gypsies here have innovative ways of doing this, they toss steel chains over the high voltage power lines.
I am not sure about technical details but it seems to work for them just fine until it rains!
Just giving idea, there is no free simple and noiseless energy today, you will pay it with money, fine, noise or electrocution.
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Re: Portable power source for lights?
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2010, 01:22:46 AM »
Some instructions on electrical wiring if there's no other way to solve the issue  8)
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Re: Portable power source for lights?
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2010, 07:14:52 AM »
Thanks guys, but buggering around with the wiring was my first thought, but it really isn't an option, tapping off power up there would be noticed if ever anybody but me went up there.

What I am looking for, is something like a high capacity battery, or capacitor based system, by portable I mean, able to be seperated from a plug socket or mains wiring, not portable as in easily carried, back pain allowing, something I could physically carry a distance of a few meters is all thats needed.

Having to do so with a fair quantity of rude words, grunting, sweating and post-event recourse to large quantities of painkillers (probably excessively large of course) isn't a disqualifier for suggestions.

Main problem altering the wiring, is no proper access to the fuse box, and I sure as hell am not going to start stripping mains wiring and soldering away while the juice is on, and in the loft, its a small, dingy, cramped, roasting hot hole full of more junk and crap than your average macdonalds chicken nugget, there is everything from a set of rocket engines to some deer antlers, a severed goat skull, prison jumpsuits to random books on buddhism, alternative dieting and other random ancient new age shite.


Think I'm going up there in the with a soldering iron? hells no :p
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Re: Portable power source for lights?
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2010, 08:16:49 AM »
What you want isn't going to happen, and it isn't practical. Wiring or a generator is the only way IMO.
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Re: Portable power source for lights?
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2010, 12:41:10 PM »
Just buy more silent generator,they are expensive but can be found.
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Re: Portable power source for lights?
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2010, 02:26:32 PM »
Quieter electric generators based on various technologies such as fuel cells and thermionic power exist but are more costly than diesel electric power generation systems  8)
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Re: Portable power source for lights?
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2010, 03:12:30 PM »
You dont need a soldering gun. You can piggy back off another wire and use wire nuts and electrical tape to fasten everything down. get us a little more info on the room and we will walk ya through wiring it up. I  could do it with out turning off breaker but if your not comfortable messing with live lines dont get yourself hurt.

A battery that can run halide lights for any length of time would cost a lot of money and still wouldn't  be cost effective.  Same as with a generator.

"Problem is, no power supply in the loft, only a light, but no power points to plug grow lights into."

Your answer is in the light. You can get all the power you need from that light by wiring a plug in behind it. I am sure you can hide your babies and have one of your buddies wire something up for ya in a flash. Good luck!
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Re: Portable power source for lights?
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2010, 05:12:23 PM »
There are plugs that screw into a lightbulb sockets and often have room for a light bulb below itr -- this allows you to plug in whatever it is you want (such as extension cords, etc) and still have the light working. I'd look into buying one of those, if that solves the problem?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Light_socket_plug_adapter.jpg

Not to sure if that would solve the problem though...
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Re: Portable power source for lights?
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2010, 08:36:46 PM »
Assuming those will tolerate US to UK adapters, that is fucking genius, thanks.
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Re: Portable power source for lights?
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2010, 09:51:36 PM »
Well you probably will have them sold around whatever stores you are around I would think? Just check for them in the store sometime.
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Re: Portable power source for lights?
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2010, 12:27:57 AM »
You'll need to get one that can handle the wattage of the halide lamps  8)
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Re: Portable power source for lights?
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2010, 03:18:12 PM »
For starters you could get a cheap 12v battery and a cheap inverter for it.
You will loose power for heat in the process, but it is silent and can be charged elsewhere.
Cons:
Leadacid batteries are heavy.
You woul propably have to have 2-4 of them, 2 in use and 2 charging.
if 12/12 light sycle is used one might actually manage wit the batteries.
The lightning would be sub-optimal and you could be looking froward to a big investment in inverters and batteries.

But after the grow is done you would have a quite nice backup powersystem at your hands.


If the prospect of lugging aroun batteris does not sound too fun one could just splice some power from electrical mains.
Turn of the mains for safety at the switchboard and work quick.

And if one is swiping power from lamps, remeber that the wiring is only rated for light bulbs, not HPS lamps or the works.


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Re: Portable power source for lights?
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2010, 09:33:53 PM »
Fluorescent bulbs don't use much wattage and there are ones that can be used as grow lights  8)
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Re: Portable power source for lights?
« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2010, 11:21:19 PM »
Compact Florescent lights are pretty nice! The big yard light type can really grow plants well :D
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Re: Portable power source for lights?
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2010, 08:35:59 PM »
Had a similar problem (without parents) in a house years ago. Just drilled a small hole through the ceiling, deplugged the extension lead, ran that up then attached the plug again and tookk the power from a room downstairs. Do it in a corner of your room and cover the wire with posters or whatever.


 

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Re: Portable power source for lights?
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2010, 01:02:23 AM »
Try no to start a fire. Maybe we should use some chemistry to solve this, like a galvanic cell.  :D