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Actually my 3rd husband was into it but not with me! He used to do it in San Francisco. Some people get their kicks in really strange ways.
Jon you need to get out more!!
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Jon you need to get out more!!
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lol i think he was only titling it that to get attention -- the video, if it isn't a joke - is some really strange politics!
What is with all of the anti-obama material anyways? It in some little country no one cares about.. haha
What is with all of the anti-obama material anyways? It in some little country no one cares about.. haha
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Vangard is indeed a real group of media who pride themselfs in stepping over the bounderies of normal news so to speak. The first episode I seen was titled Oxycontine express detailing the abuse and malpractice of oxycontin sales and use.
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Well we are heavily into "alternative" sex so I could probably write a book on it. Anal fisting is an actual technique/fetish - if you look at the checklist on bondage.com or alt.com you will see it as a category of things people elect or do not elect to participate in. As opposed to government which we are all stuck with.
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i just like the way the guy says eating da poo poo.
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OO!
OOOOOOOOOOOOUGH!!!!!
F*****g wrenched whore vomit, leftover crack monkey, frozen bloody tampone,shit pie,decaying body,politics,Barbara Streisand...
OMFG!!!
Since,hulu doesnt work here I just put "anal fisting" into google and thing what I saw was sadly worst than I ever imagined or expected!
I try to think abbot other discusting stuff to kick one exact picture out of my head, but no sucess...
It is one of those thing I had crude "whatabout" idea,but wanted to stay blessed with ignorance about details...
Jon...you have very,very sick mind!
How did you come upon this topic!?
OOOOOOOOOOOOUGH!!!!!
F*****g wrenched whore vomit, leftover crack monkey, frozen bloody tampone,shit pie,decaying body,politics,Barbara Streisand...OMFG!!!

Since,hulu doesnt work here I just put "anal fisting" into google and thing what I saw was sadly worst than I ever imagined or expected!
I try to think abbot other discusting stuff to kick one exact picture out of my head, but no sucess...
It is one of those thing I had crude "whatabout" idea,but wanted to stay blessed with ignorance about details...
Jon...you have very,very sick mind!
How did you come upon this topic!?

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well i'm bipolar yes i do have a sick mind
http://current.com/shows/vanguard/blog/92660279_if-uganda-bans-porn-how-will-ssempa-eat-da-poo-poo.htm
http://current.com/shows/vanguard/blog/92660279_if-uganda-bans-porn-how-will-ssempa-eat-da-poo-poo.htm
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Oh sweet Jesus!
I allmost pissed myself from laughter when he said in Borat style:
"Where a mans e'nus is licked like this, cmmu,cmu...,by ada'r parson,like ice cream! (other buffon confirming:"like ice-cream!")"
Thanks for that!
Abbout sick mind,you are not worse than me!
Look at the bride side...You have maniacal moments sometimes, I am constantly in the blues...

You know that there is thin line between genius and madman (or MDMAn in this case
), we just like to dance on in...while rolling! 
I allmost pissed myself from laughter when he said in Borat style:
"Where a mans e'nus is licked like this, cmmu,cmu...,by ada'r parson,like ice cream! (other buffon confirming:"like ice-cream!")"
Thanks for that!
Abbout sick mind,you are not worse than me!
Look at the bride side...You have maniacal moments sometimes, I am constantly in the blues...

You know that there is thin line between genius and madman (or MDMAn in this case
), we just like to dance on in...while rolling! 
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i used to stay rolling until i had a stroke became partially paralyzed and now live with my mother 
no more partay partay :'(

no more partay partay :'(
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Yeah,I read about your adventure about rolling for a solid month...
I won't say anything since you learned it hardest ways... :'(
but I have big problems convincing my friends it is not safe to do MDMA every two-three days,
I should scare them off telling them that it is neurotoxic,I made big mistake telling them it is safe,
now they think I am stingy if I don’t give them...
I won't say anything since you learned it hardest ways... :'(but I have big problems convincing my friends it is not safe to do MDMA every two-three days,
I should scare them off telling them that it is neurotoxic,I made big mistake telling them it is safe,
now they think I am stingy if I don’t give them...
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mdma did'nt cause the stroke there is scant evidence of that.
what happened was i was abrupty d/c'ed from a high dose of klonopin (8mg/day)
5 days later i had a stroke caused by a phenomenon known as benzodiezepiene withdrawal delerium
very similar to delerium tremens which can cause huge fluctuations in blood pressure and stroke seizures death.
stuff like that.
i researched it very thoroughly the timeline corresponds to the cerebral infarct 5 days after abrupt cessation for a long acting benzodiazepiene, which is the most probable explanation because i abstained from ecstacy for a week.
i don't see a direct cause and effect relationship between the ecstacy use and a stroke.
so ecstacy is perfectly safe in my opionion, i recommend it to all my friends.
what happened was i was abrupty d/c'ed from a high dose of klonopin (8mg/day)
5 days later i had a stroke caused by a phenomenon known as benzodiezepiene withdrawal delerium
very similar to delerium tremens which can cause huge fluctuations in blood pressure and stroke seizures death.
stuff like that.
i researched it very thoroughly the timeline corresponds to the cerebral infarct 5 days after abrupt cessation for a long acting benzodiazepiene, which is the most probable explanation because i abstained from ecstacy for a week.
i don't see a direct cause and effect relationship between the ecstacy use and a stroke.
so ecstacy is perfectly safe in my opionion, i recommend it to all my friends.
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Safe or not, if you know how MDMA works,it is not brainer to understand that solid month or rolling must have some long term side-effect!
You probably build up huge tolerance and lost magic!?
Friend of mine did it 4 days in row and he said it just wasn't that good any more, he took break and it was good again!
I know some people who used WAY too much E for a long time, and they became slow,stupid and annoying.
But again, was it only MDMA in pills...
I heard that you can get seizures from benzodiazepine withdrawal,I was never hardcore user,but they help me a lot sometimes,
I know it is real bitch to break a habit, specially if you are under other pressure.
Cerebral infarct can be caused by huge number of things, assuming you aren't morbidly obese,didn't IV'd anything for a while or broken
any bones before it happened we can rule that out,if you are sure you got it from benzo. withdraw you can sue doctor for that if you
asked him to reduce your therapy slowly and he didn't,but it is hard to prove that you got it from benzo. withdrawal,especially after heavy illicit drug use!
Best luck thou,effects can be reversible,especially at younger people.
My grandpa had stroke year ago and he is much much better now.
You probably build up huge tolerance and lost magic!?
Friend of mine did it 4 days in row and he said it just wasn't that good any more, he took break and it was good again!
I know some people who used WAY too much E for a long time, and they became slow,stupid and annoying.
But again, was it only MDMA in pills...
I heard that you can get seizures from benzodiazepine withdrawal,I was never hardcore user,but they help me a lot sometimes,
I know it is real bitch to break a habit, specially if you are under other pressure.
Cerebral infarct can be caused by huge number of things, assuming you aren't morbidly obese,didn't IV'd anything for a while or broken
any bones before it happened we can rule that out,if you are sure you got it from benzo. withdraw you can sue doctor for that if you
asked him to reduce your therapy slowly and he didn't,but it is hard to prove that you got it from benzo. withdrawal,especially after heavy illicit drug use!
Best luck thou,effects can be reversible,especially at younger people.
My grandpa had stroke year ago and he is much much better now.
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not hard to proove all you have to is look at the tox screen i'm not obese and i did'nt use any i.v. drugs i had opiates in my system but they give morphine to stroke patients so that's not much of a rebuttal.
it's prooven that large doses of tranquillizers abruptly stopped can kill.
an no i did'nt have any track marks so they can't play that card either illicit drugs or no it's pretty fucking obvious the causation.
of course mdma loses it's magic that's why you just take more and more, then it becomes "magic" again.
and the oneous is on the doctor to give the patient a taper schedule the patient should'nt have to ask the doctor anything, that's bullshit.
they are the "professionals"
not the patient.
it's prooven that large doses of tranquillizers abruptly stopped can kill.
an no i did'nt have any track marks so they can't play that card either illicit drugs or no it's pretty fucking obvious the causation.
of course mdma loses it's magic that's why you just take more and more, then it becomes "magic" again.
and the oneous is on the doctor to give the patient a taper schedule the patient should'nt have to ask the doctor anything, that's bullshit.
they are the "professionals"
not the patient.
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Just tried to help with common causes,but you obviously know well what you are talking about...
I meant that patient should asd doctor to help him if he didn't used benzos with perscription, of
course that doctor is one to thin about how and when to break the habbit if he gave them in the first place!
Best luck!
I meant that patient should asd doctor to help him if he didn't used benzos with perscription, of
course that doctor is one to thin about how and when to break the habbit if he gave them in the first place!
Best luck!
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no i would'nt have a case if he did'nt prescribe them to me in what is medically defined as a "high dose" having practised for 29 years, he should have known he was putting me in a perilous situtation.
i've gone off benzos before without many problems bu,t not that high of a dose.
i really did'nt think much of it i just accepted it i was'nt using it to get high.
i figured i could do without, so i said nothing.
that does'nt make it my resposibility.
because i'm not an M.D. so, i did'nt fully understand the ramifications.
he very well did or should have if he's licenced to practice medicine.
sure the issue of drug abuse/history could be raised but, it does'nt abdicate him from responsibility.
it might bias a jury though.
but with enough expert testimony, the rebuttals are pretty weak and, without merit.
just because someone has a history of drug abuse does'nt give a practitioner the right to in effect pronounce a death sentence.
maybe society's views are different.
i've gone off benzos before without many problems bu,t not that high of a dose.
i really did'nt think much of it i just accepted it i was'nt using it to get high.
i figured i could do without, so i said nothing.
that does'nt make it my resposibility.
because i'm not an M.D. so, i did'nt fully understand the ramifications.
he very well did or should have if he's licenced to practice medicine.
sure the issue of drug abuse/history could be raised but, it does'nt abdicate him from responsibility.
it might bias a jury though.
but with enough expert testimony, the rebuttals are pretty weak and, without merit.
just because someone has a history of drug abuse does'nt give a practitioner the right to in effect pronounce a death sentence.
maybe society's views are different.
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Of course...I am on your side on that, but it would be pretty tricky to won case,
since most people are totally ignorant regarding drug (ab)use.
since most people are totally ignorant regarding drug (ab)use.
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i was thinking the same thing that's why lawyers pay medical experts for thier testimony.
but juries are half asleep listening to all that, what they really remember is when somebody says something sensationalist like "drug addict!"
or "liar!"
in a really loud tone of voice and, that's what they take to thier deliberations.
maybe i can find one of those sensationlist type lawyers to put on a real nice dog and pony show?
i can put something lacrymatory on my fingers and keep a box of kleenex nearby and act like i'm crying, that always works!
plus i walk in there donning my fully crippled attire.
juries suck like that, why do you think so many innocent people are in prison???
that's why when i get into to trouble with the law i have judge decide the case, know why?
because they have to deliberate on the evidence not on thier prejudices or opinions and if you lose it's a lot easier to show exculpatory evidence and appeal on that basis.
not so with juries who's iq's average the unemployment rate in the U.S.
but juries are half asleep listening to all that, what they really remember is when somebody says something sensationalist like "drug addict!"
or "liar!"
in a really loud tone of voice and, that's what they take to thier deliberations.
maybe i can find one of those sensationlist type lawyers to put on a real nice dog and pony show?
i can put something lacrymatory on my fingers and keep a box of kleenex nearby and act like i'm crying, that always works!
plus i walk in there donning my fully crippled attire.
juries suck like that, why do you think so many innocent people are in prison???
that's why when i get into to trouble with the law i have judge decide the case, know why?
because they have to deliberate on the evidence not on thier prejudices or opinions and if you lose it's a lot easier to show exculpatory evidence and appeal on that basis.
not so with juries who's iq's average the unemployment rate in the U.S.
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Being judged by potential numb-nuts sucks...
USA is so damn weird,never understood how can country full of
idiots and led by secret societies can be so sucesefull for a long run?!
USA is so damn weird,never understood how can country full of
idiots and led by secret societies can be so sucesefull for a long run?!
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colonialism proxy wars shite like that is what makes the corporation known as the usa successful.
divide and conquer stategy where people get massacred en masse and a new dictator friendly to u.s. economic policy installed is how the united assfuck strips the world of it's resources.
just look as harmid karzai.
for an example or operation "just cause" another example where noriega was deposed.
sadamn was backed by the u.s. and, all the fears of chemical weapons were justified by the fact that he has the reciept for all the vx, tabun, and sarin we sold him to kill off the kurds and the iranians in the 80's.
he got out of line so G.W. decided to depose him and, the list goes on.
divide and conquer stategy where people get massacred en masse and a new dictator friendly to u.s. economic policy installed is how the united assfuck strips the world of it's resources.
just look as harmid karzai.
for an example or operation "just cause" another example where noriega was deposed.
sadamn was backed by the u.s. and, all the fears of chemical weapons were justified by the fact that he has the reciept for all the vx, tabun, and sarin we sold him to kill off the kurds and the iranians in the 80's.
he got out of line so G.W. decided to depose him and, the list goes on.
