Author Topic: Pressure pot amination of elimicin, myristicin, dillapiole?  (Read 135 times)

solidstone

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Pressure pot amination of elimicin, myristicin, dillapiole?
« on: October 13, 2010, 05:06:13 AM »
Hello,

I have been curious if the procedure as applied for MDA synthesis could be applied to other essential oils.  In the procedure the double bond of safrole is brominated with HBr.  It should be easy to obtain the halide of elimicin, myristicin etc via the same route.  The next part would be add the amine via ammonia and methanol in a pressure reactor(bomb reactor).  This works very efficiently for MDA and I do not see why the same procedure could not be applied to these readily available essential oils.  Any thoughts on this or write ups regarding this.

This is my first post, so if I have spoken wrongly please correct me.

Cheers.
« Last Edit: October 13, 2010, 03:59:56 PM by solidstone »

jon

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Re: Pressure pot amination of elimicin, myristicin, dillapiole?
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2010, 06:02:52 AM »
why don't you utfse before you ask questions like that?

solidstone

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Re: Pressure pot amination of elimicin, myristicin, dillapiole?
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2010, 03:58:48 PM »
why don't you utfse before you ask questions like that?

Looked and just re-looked.  perhaps my search protocol is not up to your standards.  Care to lend a link?

jon

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Re: Pressure pot amination of elimicin, myristicin, dillapiole?
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2010, 05:09:58 PM »
browse your pm's
and please for the love of science will you take the time in the future to scroll around rather than being completely lazy?
this thread should go to file #13
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Re: Pressure pot amination of elimicin, myristicin, dillapiole?
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2010, 08:29:59 PM »
Let him make it jon. I should be in file 13 if wasnt for the grace of my higher power. Or the powers I have when I am high.

Solidstone. Read the great works of Alexander S. and inside the PIHKAL you will find the answer. You will be looking for the page with the 10 essential amphetamines or essential oils. #157 TMA. I am gonna spoon feed you a taste because I truly love Sasha that much and it is always good for all of us to read it again as I am now and you will later.

Just a taste:


A final comment. But maybe a long one! Elsewhere, I have made comparisons between myristicin and MMDA, and between safrole and MDA. And here there is a similar parallel between elemicin and TMA. What are these relationships between the essential oils and the amphetamines? In a word, there are some ten essential oils that have a three carbon chain, and each lacks only a molecule of ammonia to become an amphetamine. So, maybe these essential oils, or "almost" amphetamines, can serve as an index for the corresponding real amphetamine counterparts. I had originally called this family the "natural" amphetamines, but my son suggested calling them the "essential" amphetamines, and I like that. At the time that I had synthesized TMA, back there in the '50s, I had the impulse to explore this body of Essential Amphetamines. As the old folk-wisdom says: "Nature is trying to tell us something.


One more quote from the hip because I love Sasha so much. I looked and couldnt find it so it goes something like this. "I had only two goals I wanted to achieve after the death of my father. To substitute a methylenedioxy group onto a TMA molucule and get over the death of my mother". end quote
acting in accordance with the dictates of reason....

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Re: Pressure pot amination of elimicin, myristicin, dillapiole?
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2010, 08:34:00 PM »
i did let him make it i showed him where to look it's up to him to do the work