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georgia prison strike shows the state of affairs in u.s. prisons
« on: December 18, 2010, 10:48:37 PM »
having been to prison i'd like to link this article to show those outside the u.s. and those who have never been behind the walls the inhumane treatment of american prisoners in general.
many injustices happen like this everyday and even worse injustices than this.
they say a nation can be judged on how it treats the sick, homeless, and prisoners; this is illustrative of that.

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/12/11-0

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Re: georgia prison strike shows the state of affairs in u.s. prisons
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2010, 11:29:38 PM »
That's fucked up.....Anyway, In the US, from what I read fairly often, looks like they send people to jail for just about anything...In Canada , most drugs convinctions (excepting synthetic drugs production) are ridiculous...As far as I know, they rarely send people to prison for a first offense (And I'm talking ab out traffic, not possession) if it's not related to organised cerime or whatever (As long as we're not talking about kilos lol)...I was surprised when I discovered they actually gives ''harsh'' sentences for meth/ecstasy production ...Nothing exagerated like you guys down south though :D

Just rambling anyway lol ;D

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Re: georgia prison strike shows the state of affairs in u.s. prisons
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2010, 12:02:16 AM »
well child support can get you thrown in prison, they are scheming on "debtor's prisons" too, the elistists that is.
bullshit offenses often get trumped up in the u.s.
"ignorance of the law is no excuse" sure it is it would take someone about 100 years to read all of the federal regs if they could read "war and peace" in a week.
now that they figured out how to make incarceration profitable I don't see this changing anytime soon.
the public mentality is if your accused of something you are presumed guilty already.
unless you've seen the inside in which case you can't vote and can't serve on a jury
there is an axiom the lawyers use it's "D.A. wins"

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While watching MSNBC's: "Lockup", I was amazed at what they willingly broadcast. The inhumane treatment. The utter sadism of chrome and glass dungeons. The brutal assaults, the attacking of unarmed, naked prisoners. And every one of those guards is obese, and lacking any sense of right and wrong. Their cowardice is plain to see. They charge the victims with assault, after a dozen guards in full riot gear with pepper-spray and Tasers, attack them in their cells. If we had tapes like these of Nazi's at Nuremberg, we would have hanged those guards. Today, these prison guards commit crimes against humanity daily. And there is no recourse for those unfortunate people who get caught up in the US prisons.
A judge in Texas said a few years ago, while he was condemning an innocent man to death, refusing to allow exonerating evidence in court, that "...a person's guilt or innocence had no bearing on his sentence***

that was in one of the replies to that article...
« Last Edit: December 19, 2010, 01:41:01 AM by jon »

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Re: georgia prison strike shows the state of affairs in u.s. prisons
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2010, 01:43:01 AM »
You should cross the border ;D

EDIT: I totally agree with you it's fucked up...And WTF @ the judge 's ''full of wisdom'' quote ::)   Oh yeah...Texas ;D
« Last Edit: December 19, 2010, 01:46:06 AM by RoidRage »

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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2010, 12:05:06 AM »
texas is where they hang 'em high i'd like to cross the border but with a record this is not likely considering your conservative bush style prime minister.
i have my dead brother's social security card and birth cert i wonder what i could do with that.
my mother is catholic and feels that's immoral she has no idea what's immoral.
what's immoral is the reality americans face but catholics are narrow minded  people who molest little boys with impunity.

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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2010, 01:24:38 AM »
Probably not as bad as trying to enter the US....As far as I know, you can't even visit the country if you have a DUI  ::)...Anyway, isn't Texas the state with the worst/most exagerrated/stupid laws ever? Isn't glassware illegal to possess ::)? I now understand why some americans acts/reacts really differently than here on certains situations. I'm not violent and doesn't condone violence, but I would be armed too If I decided to engage in any illegals activities (Not that anybody does.  Seriously it sounds like a different planet with that ridiculous War On Drugs. It's really a big WTF for me...

As for your brother's SSN  and birth certificate, there is surely something to do haha ;D There is ALWAYS something to do, you probably knows this better than me ;)

Morality & Religion...Oh Well...You summed it pretty good...That's the down-to-earth way to see it as it is in my honest opinion ;) Seriously, I always smile when the pope talk against abortion or whatfuckingever he's against, but totally ignores the seemingly generalized boy-molester situation ::)

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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2010, 03:40:46 AM »
you can't get into canada now if you even have unpaid traffic tickets my brother has been dead 7 years they might get hip to it or i could just say i was serving the lord in africa on a mission from god you know they always warm up to it.
more plausible i could say i was homeless but then they might ask well how come your s.s.n. never turned up for benifit programs?
those people have gotten a lot smarter these days.

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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2010, 04:01:45 AM »
Pass the border where there is no border then hahaha ;D I know you were joking, but seriously, there is probably a stupid immigration law somewhere about religion that would permit immigration ::) There would still be a problem with your record especially since I bet it's a drug convinction rofl :D  pedophilia, rape, murder, name it, as long as it's something you can say you weren't mentally sane when you commited the crime. ::) I'm just rambling anyway lol, and I don't know if it's like that in the US, but all the cases involving that kind of crime I see on the news, it always ends up that they don't get trialed since they aren't mentally fit ::)  You can be sure somebody will make a lot more time in jail for MDMA production than for sleeping with childrens ::) Those weirdos even gets specials prisons treatments ROFL...

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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2010, 04:41:33 AM »
well i am bipolar so i could try to legitmately enter canada but i don't think they go that easy on people anymore.
mdma is primarily made in canada i guess they are more lax about it.
the longest sentence i've heard of for mdma production was 7 years, in canada.
and that was guys with 3 million pills, automatic weapons to gaurd it and, triad associations.
i think pedopliles get shot up with deca durabolin to "chemically castrate them" enough deca and you are'nt going to make testosterone for the rest of your life and that cuts down on the urges.
my cases are trivial shit; cocaine, firearms, assualt, evading arrest, minor stuff, nothing big.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2010, 04:43:48 AM by jon »

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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2010, 06:38:13 AM »
If they don't let you enter the country wiith you being bipolar, I'm pretty sure there is some clause in the Canadian Humans Rights Act that would let you challenge it. Seriously, this thing grant just about anything to any minority willing to take a cause to court ::)

Yeah 7 Years is about the top I've heard, but as you said, it involves organised crime, automatic weapons and some more stuff. I've actually never heard of any normal sized (non-superlab lol) MDMA lab dismantlement. Anyway, I don't remember where I've read it(Wetdreams I think), but why bother synth. MDMA/MDA when kids today: A) Just want to get fucked up B) Don't know what the hell MDMA actually is because they have no standard / wrong standard. They don't understand that ecstasy is SUPPOSED to contains MDMA. When I give some and people try it, they say it isn't MDMA and they will argue forever about it, despite not being able to pass high school chemistry. Anyway you get the point, that is the same thing everywhere  :D ... As for meth labs, believe it or not, it's almost unheard of since there are no addiction lab because meth isn't sold like everywhere else. It's actually pressed in pills, like ecstasy, but it's not considered adultered. Pretty sure it's the only place in the world it's like that lol (It's not canada-wide, only in my province). Only labs they bust are production labs. Sadly, there is no meth craze/panic in the media like in the US rofl ;D Oh yeah,while I read what you've been charged with, isn't there a shitload of disavantages to have the ''convincted felon'' status? ::) I actually wonder why they send people to prison for rehabilitation if you get more shit when you get out ::)    I don't think there are any distinctions about charges, or maybe it's named differently...Anyway I'm talking about just about anything again right now ;D

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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2010, 08:15:44 AM »
yes they punish you for the rest of your life i became a highly skilled welder and no one would give me a chance save one.
can't rent propery in your name all kinds of ways of marginallization and criminal disenfranchisement.
yes i know about the mdma situation people actually prefer tmfbzp/bzp combo to mdma.
no use doing all that work when all you really need is a pill press and some research chemicals and a lable that says not for human consumption.
more money that way.
i've heard many complaints on real mdma then i threw my hands up, and said to hell with it.
if people want trash give 'em trash that's how you make money these days.

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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2010, 09:25:52 AM »
Yeah that's exactly what I meant...I could possibly understand someone like a medical doctor or something similar losing his right to practice if he was convicted of something pretty bad, but what the hell if you wants to work a trade like welder? I probably don't think like the overall population, but I wouldn't give a fuck hiring a convicted drug dealer or whatever to work iny mechanic/carpentry shop or grocery store...Seriously, being marginalized like that and not being able to find a job would only encourage me to one thing : Doing more illegal stuff :o...That's actually prison's vicious circle in my honest opinion. What the fuck could I do with a chemistry degree after  getting out of jail if I was hypothetically convicted of drug manufacturing? ::)

I can't confirm exactly what it was, but I suppose that when I used to eat pills and ended up feeling like utter shit while not being able to sleep , I was actiually getting piped. I don't know what the fuck people find fun in those craps pills. I repeat myself but kids today are so fucking stupid with all those synthetic drugs it's awful. I haven't taken a look in a while, so I don't know if the region is infested with piperazines pills. The provincial police and RCMP published a report 3-4 years ago about the chemical composition of many pills and just about every colored pill contained MDxx. It would be interesting to see a new report lol.

There is something funny with research chemicals up here....You can't be charged if the substance isn't explicitely cited in the Controlled Substance Act. There is no analog clause excepting for amphetamines. I didn't believe it until I read an article on the RCMP website from a couple of years ago back when piperazines (They are maybe stilll legal, whatever) about a huge ecstasy seizure. They dropped all charges after analyzing the pills. That's quite different than the way it works in the UK/US. I have no way to personally take advantage of that loophole though. I used to press 2C-I which is 100% legal, but people were wary of it because it was legal. Ignoring the research chemical scene, it's true everything supposed to mimic an illegal drug (Read: Piperazines party pills  and the like) normally sucks big time. All this rambling is making me wonder if mephedrone would substitute for meth in their fucking speed pills lol...I never tried meph so I don't know...That's something I should look into ;D

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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2010, 01:36:21 PM »
mephedrone would work, plus it's addictive too not a bad idea piperazines are'nt.
nobody would scoff at that if all they wanted was another pill, probably make more money that way.
tell the chinesse that you will only pay 1 dollar a gram tops or forget about it. i would'nt pay a cent more. half of them work for 3 cents an hour anyway.
that's why i got into trades it's your only shot (with a conviction)or used to be now you need security clearance to bust concrete at petrochemical companies imagine that?
concrete work is the shit end of the construction trades electrician is the top end so is class a welder metal fab that job pays 40 an hour plus per diem.
plus illegals who commited god knows what in mexico take your place because they work for 1/2 the money.
then they started importing indenturd servants from pakistan with forged hb1 visas and no one gives a shit. except the unions.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2010, 02:14:19 PM by jon »

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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2010, 02:16:59 PM »
Wow...So you're telling me illegals aliens (with an obviously clean american record since they don't even exists for the governement ::)) get hired before people stamped with the ''convincted felon'' status for life ? ??? BIG WTF.....I don't understand how somebody can trust an illegal immigrant over a fellow american ??? Anyway, it's ridiculous like there's no tomorrow...

As for mephedrone,there would probably be no problem finding a reliable bulk source. The dose at which it's active would also fits without too much trouble in a standard-sized pill. As I said, I never tried it, but from what I've read it seems pretty addiotive. Don't know how it compares to oral meth. Anyway, most people taking those pills have no idea what they're actually consuming, they just ignorantly call it speed. They've only heard about meth once or twice on tv and think it's only sold as smokable crystals ::) Anyway, my point is that it's a seemingly good candidate for the job I haven't looked seriously into that for one reason : The safety profile is having me worried. Meth is pretty safe on a toxicological basis, but from what I've read there seems to be serious side effects with the Meph. I don't know if it's overexagerated or not though since I Never looked into hard datas. If I discovered right now from reliable scientific sources (Won't happens though lol :D) that it isn't more dangerous than meth/MDxx, I would put that idea into execution in a heartbeat ;)



EDIT: Wtf with illegal immigrants coming from shitholes all around the world ? Seriously, I'm maybe badly informed on this, but I've never heard about illegal immigration in Canada ???
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Re: georgia prison strike shows the state of affairs in u.s. prisons
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2010, 04:09:15 AM »
you can pixie dust it with different stuff and put different symbols on it, yeah why the hell not.
you can do the same thing with popular supplements, really they are just placebo so buy your bulk shit from china, make the labels and heat gun them on to the bottles it's not that complicated, besides supplements are unregulated.
Me thinks that would'nt be a bad venture they are a 60 billion dollar/year business.
just watch out for lot numbers and expi dates, get your details right.

you must live in montreal of course ther is no illegal immigration (or legal for that matter) immigration, there ;D
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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2011, 10:47:28 PM »
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the longest sentence i've heard of for mdma production was 7 years, in canada.
and that was guys with 3 million pills, automatic weapons to gaurd it and, triad associations.
I believe that was a BC case. BC judges reflect the BC population and we're just much more liberal on the west coast. East coast has gone to the dark side so to speak with their conservative government. In one case I remember an Ontario truck driver got 17 years for bringing in cocaine. Alberta is very conservative too.

If you have a criminal record and want instant citizenship find a fat Canadian bitch on lavalife or match.com or similar and marry that bitch. Or get her pregnant. Anyone interested in chemistry and drug culture should come fuck some fat Canadian sluts so I don't have to!