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the psychology of snitching
« on: December 20, 2010, 12:34:02 AM »
snitches are thought so lowly of even the police call thier informants "snitches"
so i wonder besides the prospect of material gain, or the duress of police interrogation and threats of imprisonment causes ordinary everyday folks to tell on each other?
I can define a few of the motives i believe the main one is one-upmanship (to get ahead in the workplace), the comfort of "well at least i'm not as bad as that person" and so on.
or jealosy if one is more sucessful than another it tends to breed jealousy which makes people want to retaliate in passive ways such as dropping a dime on them to bring them down a notch.
so can any others come up with possible motives for this type of behavior?
the study of psychology is the study of human nature (which pretty much sucks balls) in order to predict outcomes so one can be a few steps ahead of thier opponent, as in a chess game.
feel free to add to this list.

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Re: the psychology of snitching
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2010, 01:29:28 AM »
In the school yard it's usually the outsider - the kid who doesn't quite fit in and therefore isn't enjoying the benefits of what the other kids are enjoying, so snitches to stop their enjoyment and punish them for their rejection or other cruelty.

Attention comes to mind, I imagine the cops flatter them up quite a bit, make them feel special.

I think it may matter what activity is being snitched on.  Most people would probably turn in a murderer, especially if they weren't someone they knew.  I once turned in a woman for child abuse, but I was really very self righteous in those days.  Doubt it did any good.

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Re: the psychology of snitching
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2010, 01:44:59 AM »
You forgot one crucial fact.
Fair share of people are dumb and evil.

Some people snitch for thrill and to hurt others,it's just higher level of gossip for them!

For example there was one kid who was spoiled and girly in elementray and nobody wanted to play
boys games.(except if calling someone with whole spectrum of words that essentially means faggot and beat him
is form of playing.)So he would snitch us on every little prank and "no-no" to revenge and to be teachers favorite.

Actually,when I think back better we gave him beating and called him faggot (which happens to be 100% true later on)
not because he was girly but because he was so darn mean and snitched on everyone...Well it was pretty much mental state of enchanted circle,much like addiction when someone wan't to escape from reality that troubles him!
« Last Edit: December 20, 2010, 01:46:33 AM by Oerlikon »
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Re: the psychology of snitching
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2010, 03:06:55 AM »
so self righteousness (on a mission from god people), people who are jealous and, want attention i see.
muderers are nicer people than conniving sociopaths who steal old people's life savings at least most of them are, i'd rather talk to a murderer than some those other noxious personalities.

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Re: the psychology of snitching
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2010, 03:40:31 AM »
The only reason I have EVER seen someone snitch is when it was there ass on the line.

It boils down to basic self preservation. Its either him or me and when it boils down to it like it or not 99% of the world will preserve themselfs then the other guy.
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Re: the psychology of snitching
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2010, 05:27:53 AM »
this is understood especially in fascist or communist regimes where if you don't tell on your neighbor you could be jailed/shot.
but you would be suprized how quick people are to drop dimes for trivial reasons.
i think jealousy and self righteousness stand out.

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Re: the psychology of snitching
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2010, 04:12:14 PM »
My family lived in all 3 regimes+kingdom.

Since king wasn't our it treated us much like what you think fascists do.
Snitching was obligatory,but they at least didn't killed you if you don't snitch.

Germans were nice since they had no permanent territorial interest here
and liberated us from bad king,they even took away local usurers (probably in concentration camp)
and prevented commies and other looters from terrorizing people. They gave humanitarian help along with domestic fascists.
With them you know that you are doomed if you do something against state or belong to certain group that state
is especially keen on or know someone who is and protect him(Jew,gay,commie...)
You must snitch on these people,if you do they will reward you,if you don't and they know
you will be shot! Otherwise you are safe and there is no reason state will kill/screw you.
If you are in the party and/or obedient than you are 100% safe.
Only field where democracy is better is privacy and liberty of information.

Commies are different,they like make fractions and kill eachother,tell on eachother,
even force/reward other people to tell on people who had nothing to do with with
politics just to fill the killing norm. Only good reason to be in party is if you are
incompetent and thus poor,don't own anything,since state will steal from
someone who isn't in party and give it to you if you tell on other people.

Democracy is weird,we are disappointed with depression it brought!
Everything commies stole from you is being sold to strangers by new party members
who were mostly convicted thieves and scamers in past regime.
Snitching is still "must" but if you don't do it they won't shot you,that's a big +!
At least they don't kill too much people in the peace time,not even those that should be killed.
(Child molesters and similar...)
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Re: the psychology of snitching
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2010, 02:29:16 AM »
'don't be stupid be a smarty come and join the nazi party!'

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Re: the psychology of snitching
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2013, 08:09:29 PM »
I must be the 1 % ......

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Re: the psychology of snitching
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2013, 10:42:25 PM »
I think I'M the one percent :P hehehe

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Re: the psychology of snitching
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2013, 10:59:22 PM »
Don't be the one that "corrupted" them, because then they will internally pin the blame for their own actions on you.
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Re: the psychology of snitching
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2013, 11:23:42 PM »
Don't be the one that "corrupted" them, because then they will internally pin the blame for their own actions on you.
Thats just random, if somebody will give you away he will make up a reason to have morally more acceptable for himself and maybe for others. To do so a person will always find a reason, so there is nothing one can avoid. Not "corrupting" people sounds like a good idea to me anyways though.

In the end it boils down to the problem that peolple know stuff they actually would not need to know for no rational reason but the outright stupid "if you trust me prove it" bullshit. Observing a strict "need to know" policy for everybody is the best you can do. A 2modified reality" approach may be helpful sometimes by telling somebody a solid but made up version of reality. When it comes back to you, you know where from.

There are very few who relly consequently refuse to cooperate with the man even under heavy pressure. What is so very disgusting with the rest is how fucking CHEAP they sell you out. There is a difference between facing 10 years or more in prison or loosing your drivers licence for a year...

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Re: the psychology of snitching
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2013, 12:18:13 AM »
Yep, good advice there. Just bringing up the "corrupting influence" thing as that seems, from experience, to almost guarantee that they will snitch. Of all the excuses snitches will create for themselves, it's the easiest to rationalize.
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Re: the psychology of snitching
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2013, 08:45:47 AM »
Having been on the receiving side of a "professional snitcher" (yes, this person had spilled his guts on a few others that were inside with me), I have found that if you look close enough at a person's character defects, that in most instances you can tell that they born to be a snitch. Sure some of what has been said comes into play such as having one's freedom on the line. This is especially true when dealing with people with children, people facing the bitch (habitual or 3 strikes your out - law), and those who are scared that mommie or daddy are going to find out what they little darlin' has been up to. However, in some instances you just know, or at least should have known. Damn, what was he thinking by bringing the homeboy back into the fold when he was just kicked out of county on an o.r after getting popped with an oz.  Sheesh... :o


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Re: the psychology of snitching
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2013, 05:44:56 AM »
The best way to prevent snitching is to off them as they do it, right?

If my career was to be based on illegal activities I would like a setup similar to the one in layer cake. Competent, professional business men, part of a syndicate that controls everything. Clean, efficient, and smart. If there was support on the "inside" that was part of our syndicate, then the honourable thing would be to take the rap if you fucked up. Like what happened with morty  ;D

Probably one of the main reasons I would never make a career out of this  ;D too many fucking idiots and maniacs running the club

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Re: the psychology of snitching
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2013, 09:37:17 PM »
Aye same.

Whilst toady doesn't, and indeed has never done so (in truth....although he may, may have sold a joint on a train when he was about 9........) Can't bee sure if he didn't just give it, after all those years of his.

Thats why. Greedy bloody wankers, and stupid bastards at that. Had two 'job interviews' even. So to speak, one by a gun runner met on the inside that wanted me to work for him. HIS guys werent even competent enough to show up. Next guy pissed in his own sink for convenience and probably couldn't spell any words longer than 'ey luv, ten pints o' wifebeater when ye got a few'

Or the first couple of words and punctuation marks at least....


Working with the lowest common denominator. Human greed, Human avarice and stupidity. Lived locally within the span of one average sized western european, non-capital city. But fuck....wants MDMA....but when questioned about MDA and 'do you like chemists with, or without cancer' *that is, to say, chemist who doesn't want to sod around with anything like DMSO4 unless absocuntinlutely irreplaceable, thinking of methylating agents, easier primary amines and non-cancer-infested-long-happy-life, of course.

This twat might have been able to walk from one place to a second, pre-agreed destination point....but I VERY much doubt if he knew what a dissociation constant was, could have seen that git thinking things like 'this dilute HF is a very weak acid.....fine....got to be...'

Or maybe 'two long words in succes...err...next to the other one....too much'

Fuck that.  Toady can scarcely disguise his contempt, let alone bloody work with the fuckers.
Questioned about security arrangements....'boys know whats up yo  '
Nooo.......Sorry. Get a team with specialist knowledge of TCP/IP
or go find another person with chemistry knowledge, shit income, and zero moral fibre. And of course, find someone else to do the predictive work?

Hah.

Never have, never will, work for such. Neither would toady. And he would swear that in court, on his honor. Hell, on his feelings for his stalker. And would be able to swear falsely on neither.

 
would have looked like a mastermind contestant, compared to the actual response, however he got, from the second. Sheesh. Can't remember word for word...but suffice as to say, lazy enough to know where to find somebody qualified...doesn't bother....or too stupid to even tell them what they want........just tell me when, so me and toady can go schedule that ClF3 experiment in the meantime ....
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Re: the psychology of snitching
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2013, 09:39:02 PM »
And without  a cut-out that doesnt know what they are actually doing and as such, disposable...


Fucking bugger that. Paranoid, staying that way.
Hell Toady upgraded the tinfoil hat to a good couple of inches of W either side just to be sure...
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Re: the psychology of snitching
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2013, 12:42:24 AM »
Amen to that. I am my own master. More paranoid by the day

Had a dream last night. working in the lab when a bunch of cops  come up the drive claiming I'm a fascist and they want to search the place  :-X spooky

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Re: the psychology of snitching
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2013, 01:54:22 AM »
Kurwa MaT.....toady still goes from comatose sleep that wouldn't waken for the sake of an air strike next door, or lead pipe over the head, to wide awake, completely sleep deprived and MAJORLY fucked about the fact, sleep deprived as buggery.

Just tap the damn lab window, or go to wash it.....he is up quicker than an arse ring from a a vat of HNO3, rushing to close it and tell them to bugger off with the water dripping.

Shit him up a few times...all thanks to PTSD...thanks to unwarranted time inside (called toady a bomb maker, fanatic, jihadi, etc....although thats obviously as kosher as a sausage bloodyfucking synagogue paid for with a nine bob note.


Neither need that sort of BS.


And adding to that the low tolerance for willful stupidity in the face of logic......go figure. They don't like IT......toady..doesn't like THEM. Criminal mastermind? got to be relegated to the movies....most of them seem barely able to shit themselves if helped with a foot in the guts.
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Re: the psychology of snitching
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2013, 07:50:22 AM »
Keep your mouth shut and your circle close. That tends to reduce the problem.
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